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When will it all end?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    If only people were as concerned about the kids who don't have symptoms of covid.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    If only people were as concerned about the kids who don't have symptoms of covid.

    Exactly the Ombudsman for children raised this a few weeks ago, their mental health etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Can people with a BMI of less than 25 get on with life as normal?

    78% of people hospitalised with COVID were either overweight or obese.

    Instead of trying to restrict everyone's movements, maybe NPHET should address the public health issue of obesity and focus on promoting good diet and exercise. It would also help to reduce cancer, cardiac issues, and a whole host of other illnesses which kill far more people than COVID.

    NPHET/Government have forced gyms to close while declaring takeaways and off licences as essential. Mind boggling when you think about it.

    Most healthy people who get COVID won't even know they have it.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html?utm_content=Main&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1615401910


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »
    All data shows this is not a significant risk for kids. End of story.

    And kids can still spread it, as anyone else...end of story.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hooked


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Can people with a BMI of less than 25 get on with life as normal?

    78% of people hospitalised with COVID were either overweight or obese.

    Instead of trying to restrict everyone's movements, maybe NPHET should address the public health issue of obesity and focus on promoting good diet and exercise. It would also help to reduce cancer, cardiac issues, and a whole host of other illnesses which kill far more people than COVID.

    NPHET/Government have forced gyms to close while declaring takeaways and off licences as essential. Mind boggling when you think about it.

    Most healthy people who get COVID won't even know they have it.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/08/covid-cdc-study-finds-roughly-78percent-of-people-hospitalized-were-overweight-or-obese.html?utm_content=Main&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1615401910


    This. Times 1000!!!

    I’ve gone from an active, healthy 42 year old to having no sporting outlet. No gym, no Wednesday and sunday soccer. Drinking at home, 2 stone gained. Can’t travel outside 5km for last 6 months.., no trips to beach, hikes, paddle boarding.

    A year on.., and the most draconian of measures still in place.

    I can only imagine the damage it’s doing to families, students and children...

    It’s nowhere near as deadly as our PISS POOR health system would have you believe!!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Hooked wrote: »
    This. Times 1000!!!

    I’ve gone from an active, healthy 42 year old to having no sporting outlet. No gym, no Wednesday and sunday soccer. Drinking at home, 2 stone gained. Can’t travel outside 5km for last 6 months.., no trips to beach, hikes, paddle boarding.

    A year on.., and the most draconian of measures still in place.

    I can only imagine the damage it’s doing to families, students and children...

    It’s nowhere near as deadly as our PISS POOR health system would have you believe!!!

    Keep moving, sitting on your butt won't help you at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hooked


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Keep moving, sitting on your butt won't help you at all.

    Easier said than done. The 2 games of soccer were HUGELY beneficial to my physical AND mental health. But yes... need to stop the rot.

    Can only imagine how parents with few/many kids are coping. Or those out of work. Perpetual Lockdown is insane...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    Hooked wrote: »
    Easier said than done. The 2 games of soccer were HUGELY beneficial to my physical AND mental health. But yes... need to stop the rot.

    Can only imagine how parents with few/many kids are coping. Or those out of work. Perpetual Lockdown is insane...

    I think you can always find the way to exercise. It's not easy on parents for sure. If people would cop on, we wouldn't have as you say perpetual lockdown IMO.

    Edit: sadly we are all paying the price for peeps who just can't follow simple guidelines.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Hooked wrote: »
    Easier said than done. The 2 games of soccer were HUGELY beneficial to my physical AND mental health. But yes... need to stop the rot.

    Can only imagine how parents with few/many kids are coping. Or those out of work. Perpetual Lockdown is insane...

    It's far more enjoyable to go for a kickaround with a few lads than to go for a run on your own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 377 ✭✭Iguarantee


    GazzaL wrote: »
    It's far more enjoyable to go for a kickaround with a few lads than to go for a run on your own.

    It’s far more enjoyable to be able to go 5km from your house than stay within that radius but people make do.

    Some exercise > no exercise. Best of luck with it.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    Iguarantee wrote: »
    It’s far more enjoyable to be able to go 5km from your house than stay within that radius but people make do.

    Some exercise > no exercise. Best of luck with it.

    Most people I know go outside their 5km almost every single day.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Most people I know go outside their 5km almost every single day.

    You mean they're walking outside of 5km?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Instead of trying to restrict everyone's movements, maybe NPHET should address the public health issue of obesity and focus on promoting good diet and exercise.

    They'd be accused of fat shaming before they can even finish their sentence. It goes against the Body Positive "Healthy at any size" from the woke brigade. Saying a 500 lb land whale isn't healthy [and beautiful] is tantamount to heresy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    You mean they're walking outside of 5km?

    Walking, driving, running, biking, hopscotching, you name it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Why not just keep those who refuse to get vaccinated in lockdown by required vaccination documentation to enter crowded public spaces? Then the responsible people are safer.

    Yeah because the accusation of Police State dictatorship,etc and such aren't already being thrown around. "We'll get of the Police State accusations by acting like a Police State. What could possibly go wrong?"


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    Hooked wrote: »
    Easier said than done. The 2 games of soccer were HUGELY beneficial to my physical AND mental health. But yes... need to stop the rot.

    Can only imagine how parents with few/many kids are coping. Or those out of work. Perpetual Lockdown is insane...

    Kids losing out hugely. Think about a year more or less without sport/ hobbies, that’s a year they will never get back. Was wondering if they’ll ever catch up we’ll only know this in the future of course.

    A child psychologist recently that say for a child of five they’ve lived one fifth of their life in lockdown. One has to wonder about the long term effects of this on a child.

    On a positive note more kids going back to school tomorrow which is good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hooked


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Walking, driving, running, biking, hopscotching, you name it.

    But not going from limerick to Clare... too many cops to fine you. Sad face.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hooked


    Mr. Karate wrote: »
    They'd be accused of fat shaming before they can even finish their sentence. It goes against the Body Positive "Healthy at any size" from the woke brigade. Saying a 500 lb land whale isn't healthy [and beautiful] is tantamount to heresy.

    I GENUINELY needed that laugh. Thanks OP


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    GazzaL wrote: »
    Walking, driving, running, biking, hopscotching, you name it.

    Yeah I'd say driving is the main thing, hardly to put it down as exercise :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,652 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Hooked wrote: »
    Easier said than done. The 2 games of soccer were HUGELY beneficial to my physical AND mental health. But yes... need to stop the rot.

    Can only imagine how parents with few/many kids are coping. Or those out of work. Perpetual Lockdown is insane...

    You just have to force yourself to get out and do something really. I know it's harder to motivate yourself at home - I used to love going for runs with people from work and going to the gym a couple of nights a week, I know the options open to us now just aren't the same and I'm not trying to downplay how tough it can be. At the end of the day though you'll feel a lot better long term if you just make yourself go out and do something.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    Hooked wrote: »
    I GENUINELY needed that laugh. Thanks OP

    This is why there hasn't been a concerted effort anywhere in the West to encourage proper nutrition and exercise through out all of this. They're afraid of being accused of fat shaming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Yeah I'd say driving is the main thing, hardly to put it down as exercise :D

    People could drive to a scenic location to exercise or a public park with the outdoor exercise machines. Or they could just be driving outside their 5km to visit friends and family that they mighn't have seen in a year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,814 ✭✭✭Hooked


    gansi wrote: »
    Kids losing out hugely. Think about a year more or less without sport/ hobbies, that’s a year they will never get back. Was wondering if they’ll ever catch up we’ll only know this in the future of course.

    A child psychologist out recently that say for a child of five they’ve lived one fifth of their life in lockdown. One has to wonder about the long term effects of this on a child.

    On a positive note more kids going back to school tomorrow which is good.

    Yep... it’s finally catching up with my brothers 2 girls.

    8 and 11. Best kids in the world... but the toll it’s taking on them... it’s disgusting. I’m all for protecting the ‘vulnerable’ but that’s no longer them. We’re a year in. We know so much more. But the plan is unchanged from week 1.

    They’re constantly upset. Asking when it’s gonna end. Why can’t they see distant friends. Why no cinema, beach, local trips. Holidays cancelled again this year. Not sleeping. Just horrible on them...

    NPHET, Leo, MeHole and the rest need a better way TO LIVE with covid. And stop hiding us all way.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Why not just keep those who refuse to get vaccinated in lockdown by required vaccination documentation to enter crowded public spaces? Then the responsible people are safer.

    Because net emigration is not a good thing for a massively indebted country.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    I personally know 3 children who got it very bad. 2 hospitalised and 1 very nearly.

    So when I see a family go shopping together, kids pawing everything, I think they probably should take things more seriously.

    279 people under 15 have been hospitalized since the start of this and you knew 2 if them out of the 3 kids you know

    https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/pages/detailed-profile-of-cases


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,933 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Because net emigration is not a good thing for a massively indebted country.

    You think theres that many anti-vax?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭arctictree


    Know loads of people who visited their mother today. These would normally abide by the rules. I think people are just sick of it at this stage and have decided to live their lives...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,066 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    GazzaL wrote: »
    People could drive to a scenic location to exercise or a public park with the outdoor exercise machines. Or they could just be driving outside their 5km to visit friends and family that they mighn't have seen in a year.

    Yeah right, so everyone will be packed in a public park, cuz walking in 5 km radius is so boring. People tend to complain about everything, always. The minute someone tells them you can't or shouldn't do this, everyone wants to do that. Man main road where I live is suddenly full of walkers, none of them gives a shīt about any guidelines, mixed households, no mask, no shìt, up on each others back, believing they do it right cuz they outside..


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭GazzaL


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    Yeah right, so everyone will be packed in a public park, cuz walking in 5 km radius is so boring. People tend to complain about everything, always. The minute someone tells them you can't or shouldn't do this, everyone wants to do that. Man main road where I live is suddenly full of walkers, none of them gives a shīt about any guidelines, mixed households, no mask, no shìt, up on each others back, believing they do it right cuz they outside..

    Any parks I've seen have been absolutely packed. When you had people on here crying about the dangers of kids socialising and going back to school, public playgrounds were full!

    It's actually quite safe outdoors. There's a higher risk of getting knocked down crossing the road than there is of getting COVID when you're out for a walk.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,642 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    xhomelezz wrote: »
    I think you can always find the way to exercise. It's not easy on parents for sure. If people would cop on, we wouldn't have as you say perpetual lockdown IMO.

    Edit: sadly we are all paying the price for peeps who just can't follow simple guidelines.

    All the essential business going on out here - a good third of the workforce in fact - would have us back to zero no bother, but the few guys who cycle beyond 5km or go to a beach or visit their mums make all the difference and keep us in perpetual lockdown.

    Sure

    Must be a nice clean simple worldview you created for yourself there. But sadly it wouldn't hold up to a few questions from a ten year old. And in fact its people like you - devoid of any inquisitive or critical thinking or any logical thinking seemingly - that makes this perpetual lockdown mandate a doozy for the government spoofers.


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