When will it all end?

Ray Donovan

niallo27 wrote: »

Dangerous game to play, people need some kind of end date, something to hope for. Something to look forward to. I'm personally finding all this very tough. I don't see a way out.

Ya very down over this myself tonight. It feels like I am existing rather than living with no change in sight and nothing to look forward to.

hmmm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Wish i could be as positive as you. Sometimes finding it hard day by day with nothing to look forward too in terms of gigs/trips etc. Been out of work is a killer too

Hoping ill do something worthwhile by the end of the year in terms of a short trip away/gig etc

It's tough, I know.

I think things will look substantially better by May/June. It might not be back to "normal", but we'll be out of the worst. This is the hardest bit, from now until the end of March.

The stock market is saying that we come out of this relatively quickly, and things restart very quickly. There's a lot of cash sloshing around, a lot of pent-up energy. This isn't like the last financial crisis which took years to recover from. And people aren't going to turn down trips/gigs/nights out after this, the 1920s were the most over-the-top decade ever.

niallo27

hmmm wrote: »

It's tough, I know.

I think things will look substantially better by May/June. It might not be back to "normal", but we'll be out of the worst. This is the hardest bit, from now until the end of March.

The stock market is saying that we come out of this relatively quickly, and things restart very quickly. There's a lot of cash sloshing around, a lot of pent-up energy. This isn't like the last financial crisis which took years to recover from. And people aren't going to turn down trips/gigs/nights out after this, the 1920s were the most over-the-top decade ever.

Yes but honestly right now end of march/April seems like an eternity away.

Donald Trump

Ray Donovan wrote: »

Micheal Martin's interview on Virgin Media News this evening wouldn't fill anyone with hope.

1. "Not for a while yet, not for a while yet" when asked about going for a pint.

2. Ruled out any St Patrick's festivities.

3. A better standard of living in the 3rd quarter

4. Did/Could not answer when asked when we would return to pre Covid normality.

What kind of an answer do you want from him?


"We'll be 100% back to normal at exactly 3:26pm on 27th June 2021"

GazzaL

Donald Trump wrote: »

What kind of an answer do you want from him?


"We'll be 100% back to normal at exactly 3:26pm on 27th June 2021"

How about, we're planning to achieve this level of vaccinations by this date, and we're working to re-open the country fully in line with the vaccination plan that makes sure the elderly and vulnerable are protected?

Donald Trump

GazzaL wrote: »

How about, we're planning to achieve this level of vaccinations by this date, and we're working to re-open the country fully in line with the vaccination plan that makes sure the elderly and vulnerable are protected?

Ah, maybe none of them have thought of those points. Hopefully some of them read boards.ie

GazzaL

Donald Trump wrote: »

Ah, maybe none of them have thought of those points. Hopefully some of them read boards.ie

Given how things have gone so far, you can be sure they haven't got a ****ing clue.

Jinglejangle69

GazzaL wrote: »

How about, we're planning to achieve this level of vaccinations by this date, and we're working to re-open the country fully in line with the vaccination plan that makes sure the elderly and vulnerable are protected?

Can you throw up a link of all these other countries who have gave out the planning to exactly what you have mentioned above.

Thanks in advance.

Donald Trump

GazzaL wrote: »

Given how things have gone so far, you can be sure they haven't got a ****ing clue.

They appear to have a schedule for vaccinations. I heard April being quoted as a target for vaccinating front-line and elderly


There are a lot of potential unknown variables and external factors between then and now too. Even today there is a headline about one of the vaccines going to fall behind schedule so that they can ramp up their production capacity (and say they will catch up later).


As more information is generated and collected over time, things will change and adapt. That is the nature of the thing

Ted_YNWA

jelem wrote: »

After about 5 major killer variants - deposited at timely intervals - chem trail-
and minimum 18% reduction in population with commerce and trade destroyed.
was the only way to hide the complete failure of western capitalist democracy for
which trillions of dollars debt that can never be paid but usa alone keeps printing
fake money.
it was war or cull and reset - war was capitalist democracies most hated avenue as
would leave no escape route with nuclear devastation planet wide.
cull is the polititions and elites easy escape whilst majority suffer and die by virus or
starvation.

Conspiracy Theory forum if you believe Chem Trails are involved.

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=576

E mac

What would happen if the vaccine doesn’t work? ....

saabsaab

hmmm wrote: »

It's tough, I know.

I think things will look substantially better by May/June. It might not be back to "normal", but we'll be out of the worst. This is the hardest bit, from now until the end of March.

The stock market is saying that we come out of this relatively quickly, and things restart very quickly. There's a lot of cash sloshing around, a lot of pent-up energy. This isn't like the last financial crisis which took years to recover from. And people aren't going to turn down trips/gigs/nights out after this, the 1920s were the most over-the-top decade ever.

I hope it doesn't go like the 1920's. Crazy time as I was told by an old man years ago, wild stuff happened in some places. Then the great crash!

washman3

E mac wrote: »

What would happen if the vaccine doesn’t work? ....

You'll just be given a different placebo and won't know the difference.;)

E mac

washman3 wrote: »

You'll just be given a different placebo and won't know the difference.;)

I’m shoving 40 so won’t be getting any vaccine anytime soon. When I’m due I’d say everyone will know if it’s working or not...

washman3

GazzaL wrote: »

We'll all be dead by the time this fiasco is over in Ireland. The rest of the world will move on without us.

The developed World already has.
We are still trying to decide which Government minister's family member/friend/election donator becomes a multi-millionaire out of this.
And our bearded friends in the Unions must show the country how important their role in everyday life is..:rolleyes:
One would never know we are in the middle of a Global Pandemic.

dublin49

the main purpose of the Vaccines are to give the politicans a shield to hide behind when they open up the economy.When the deaths continue the politicans will tell us most have protection and these regretable deaths are very much the exception to the rule.Even better if they offer some real protection but not convinced they will.

CruelSummer

dublin49 wrote: »

the main purpose of the Vaccines are to give the politicans a shield to hide behind when they open up the economy.When the deaths continue the politicans will tell us most have protection and these regretable deaths are very much the exception to the rule.Even better if they offer some real protection but not convinced they will.

Ok...but if the vaccine doesn’t work then the hospitals will continuously be overwhelmed and normal healthcare cannot continue. So they’ll need to work to some extent.

Mr. Karate

Donald Trump wrote: »

What kind of an answer do you want from him?


"We'll be 100% back to normal at exactly 3:26pm on 27th June 2021"

We had 10 months of this last year and its highly likely a good chunk of this year as well. Its not asking too much for these clowns to pull their heads out of their asses and give us some hope that we will resume normality this year.

Its clearly obvious from the lack of public buy in this time that people are burned out from all this. They need to start giving us some hope that we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and not just carry on with the misery porn.

GazzaL wrote:

We'll all be dead by the time this fiasco is over in Ireland. The rest of the world will move on without us.

The Irish are called Paddy Last for a reason. This Government is hellbent on living up to that name.

Donald Trump

Mr. Karate wrote: »

We had 10 months of this last year and its highly likely a good chunk of this year as well. Its not asking too much for these clowns to pull their heads out of their asses and give us some hope that we will resume normality this year.

Its clearly obvious from the lack of public buy in this time that people are burned out from all this. They need to start giving us some hope that we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and not just carry on with the misery porn.



The Irish are called Paddy Last for a reason. This Government is hellbent on living up to that name.

It must be about 8 or 900 years since Cnut went down to the seashore to try to demonstrate the limitations of his authority over the forces of nature to his subjects.


A tentative vaccination schedule has been published. Just do your bit until then. The more people that do their bit, the less effort is going to be pulled away from that.

Mr. Karate

Donald Trump wrote: »

It must be about 8 or 900 years since Cnut went down to the seashore to try to demonstrate the limitations of his authority over the forces of nature to his subjects.


A tentative vaccination schedule has been published. Just do your bit until then. The more people that do their bit, the less effort is going to be pulled away from that.

People are getting fed up of doing their bit. While the people telling us to keep sacrificing aren't sacrificing anything. And are now "predicting" that this can go on until 2023 and beyond.

sporina

there is dust on my make up bag..:eek:

plodder

dublin49 wrote: »

the main purpose of the Vaccines are to give the politicans a shield to hide behind when they open up the economy.When the deaths continue the politicans will tell us most have protection and these regretable deaths are very much the exception to the rule.Even better if they offer some real protection but not convinced they will.

I don't think so. Re-opening the economy will be based on the numbers of cases in hospitals and ICUs, not the numbers who got the vaccine.

Real Donald Trump

Mr. Karate wrote: »

People are getting fed up of doing their bit. While the people telling us to keep sacrificing aren't sacrificing anything. And are now "predicting" that this can go on until 2023 and beyond.

Who said that?

Richard Hillman

Mr. Karate wrote: »

People are getting fed up of doing their bit. While the people telling us to keep sacrificing aren't sacrificing anything. And are now "predicting" that this can go on until 2023 and beyond.

I think we are starting to get the whole thing that went on in during WW2 about Blitz Spirit. The narrative was that people were brave. Essentially I think that people just gave up and said life isn't worth living like this. You can only bunker down for so long.

When it all started, I was a quite paranoid about it because I have asthma and 20 years of smoking under my belt. Now I couldn't be ****ed if I get the virus. Life isn't worth living being bunkered down like this. I haven't had a face to face conversation with a human being for 2 weeks now :pac:

The likes of NPHET and the Expert Doomers won't be walking away when things die down either. They'll be swinging their dicks for as long as the media will listen to them. Their whole careers have been leading up to this. They have been dreaming up this scenario their whole lives. 600point leaving cert nerds are suddenly for the first time in their lives the popular kid in the playground. They are ****ing loving life right now.

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

It's tough, I know.

I think things will look substantially better by May/June. It might not be back to "normal", but we'll be out of the worst. This is the hardest bit, from now until the end of March.

The stock market is saying that we come out of this relatively quickly, and things restart very quickly. There's a lot of cash sloshing around, a lot of pent-up energy. This isn't like the last financial crisis which took years to recover from. And people aren't going to turn down trips/gigs/nights out after this, the 1920s were the most over-the-top decade ever.

Like you I think the beginning of summer will be a far better place than where we find ourselves now. I hope for level 2 the end of summer or coming in to Autumn. Pre Covid normality should return in the first half of 2022.
When do you think it will return?

beachhead

At the present rate of vaccinations we will be "in suspension" into next year.The anti vaxxers from all communities will ensure that and a lot will resist forever.Also,being vaccinated is not a cure all.

GazzaL

Mr. Karate wrote: »

People are getting fed up of doing their bit. While the people telling us to keep sacrificing aren't sacrificing anything. And are now "predicting" that this can go on until 2023 and beyond.

People earning anywhere from €100k to €350k per annum, plus expenses on top of that, telling people that have been forced out of work that "we're all in this together".

NIMAN

GazzaL wrote: »

People earning anywhere from €100k to €350k per annum, plus expenses on top of that, telling people that have been forced out of work that "we're all in this together".

You have a point.

I have always wondered how Covid would have been handled if everyone went on the PUP?

Hector Savage

hmmm wrote: »

I didn't hear the interview, but we'd all be better off I think if we'd accept that this isn't going to be massively better until the Summer. Do whatever you have to do to dig in and find something to keep you going. Nearly every generation goes through something like this and often a lot worse - e.g. world wars. The good news is that the vaccines are coming, and thankfully they are very good - and even if something happens with all these new "variants" we are hearing about, the vaccines can be changed quickly to cope. The end of this is in sight, and if history is any judge we're going to have a great time afterwards because we've all realised what we are missing.

Can you imagine the brothels after all this ????

Jaysus ....

Hector Savage

hmmm wrote: »

It's tough, I know.

I think things will look substantially better by May/June. It might not be back to "normal", but we'll be out of the worst. This is the hardest bit, from now until the end of March.

The stock market is saying that we come out of this relatively quickly, and things restart very quickly. There's a lot of cash sloshing around, a lot of pent-up energy. This isn't like the last financial crisis which took years to recover from. And people aren't going to turn down trips/gigs/nights out after this, the 1920s were the most over-the-top decade ever.

Yep this is the final sprint ... this winter , cannot imagine next winter will be as bad - I am 100% sure from an epidemiological point of view it won't be, but from our SS thug govt and NPHET - that's another question - however people won't take it, look at Italy, they are waking up ... fair play to them.