When will it all end?

ujjjjjjjjj

Mr. Karate wrote: »

If Holohan, Martin and Varadkar were on the €350 throughout this they would have gotten over their love affair with lockdowns last year.

Would.never have started.......

ujjjjjjjjj

ShineOn7 wrote: »

In normal times I'd say yes

But Cooper lost many, many listeners today for good

https://twitter.com/caramel_owens/status/1359255872061526021


https://twitter.com/Woolberto/status/1359228076291485697

Seriously does anyone listen to McConkey anymore ??

Heard him once last Spring and have ignored him ever since.......

Guaranteed way to lose this listener is put him on your radio show.

sReq | uTeK

Jesus I cant wait to get back to New Zealand.

This is Brexit 2.0 nothing else to fill the airwaves, Holohan, Nolan and the Crazy gang over at FF and FG just loving the limelight.

Again I ask why there is ZERO balance in the reporting.

8k mainstream, 6k mainstream,4k...still mainstream 1.5k curve begins to flatten..not so much...media realise what's coming and need more click bait so start talking about future waves that may or may not happen....500 cases today cant even find it on the front page if the Irish Times apps.

I know loads of people who have tested positive and despite a runny nose they wouldn't know they've had it...

Dreadful virus if you're over 60..get them vaccinated.

0 deaths ages 0-25... 25 deaths 25-45 ages and those had underlying illnesses.

5 years of lockdown, get the **** out of here.

TimeToShine

We can laugh all we want about Brexit but it's paying for itself ten times over (not literally) and the difference in morale is staggering. The UK will be back to normal by the summer and Ireland will still be floundering.

Hmob

TimeToShine wrote: »

We can laugh all we want about Brexit but it's paying for itself ten times over (not literally) and the difference in morale is staggering. The UK will be back to normal by the summer and Ireland will still be floundering.

They're panicking over there over SA variant after vaccinating with AZ

I wouldn't count their chickens yet

ShineOn7

Not disagreeing with all your post, but this bit jumps out

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

0 deaths ages 0-25... 25 deaths 25-45 ages and those had underlying illnesses.

A 19 year old passed away very recently

And have you a link that all those under 45 who passed had underlying symptoms?

Because I haven't seen that anywhere reported, nor do I believe it to be true

TimeToShine

Hmob wrote: »

They're panicking over there over SA variant after vaccinating with AZ

I wouldn't count their chickens yet

The public don't give a fiddlers, go onto BBC's website and you actually have to work to find anything UK Covid related. RTE main page has the number of deaths screaming at you in big bold writing.

Business as usual this summer, guaranteed.

Hmob

TimeToShine wrote: »

The public don't give a fiddlers, go onto BBC's website and you actually have to work to find anything UK Covid related. RTE main page has the number of deaths screaming at you in big bold writing.

Business as usual this summer, guaranteed.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

Coybig_

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Amazing how early January when we had 6,000 cases a day people were slating the government for having the worst record.

Now its died down people are angry they are slow to ease restrictions.

Can't win either way.

You must be very easily amazed.

People are angry that they are talking about having restrictions well into next year, at which point our entire population should have long been vaccinated.

Worth remembering that they repeatedly said that the vaccine would bring us out of this, that we just needed to hold on for the vaccine. Except, now it seems like the vaccine won't bring us out of this, in yet another monumental shifting of the goalposts.

Very easy to win. Don't keep changing the goalposts and be accountable for what you say. If the vaccine is supposed to bring the end of this then let it.

TimeToShine

Hmob wrote: »

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk

I usually go here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk

Man United story on the main page!

ShineOn7

The chan chan man wrote: »

I have a massive pain in my bollokcs at this stage

We all have

I'm struggling to get out of bed some days since early January and I was fairly mentally robust in waves 1 and 2 (by comparison anyway). I suspect the weather and shorter days has a lot to do with this

But we just can't have a repeat of those January numbers. It was both a national embarrassment and some of the saddest weeks this country has seen

Get the over 60s and vulnerable vaccinated. Nothing much will change till then

Until then we need to all man up a bit more

And some (not you Chin Chan, moreso what I see on and offline) need to grow up a bit more

PTH2009

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We all have

I'm struggling to get out of bed some days since early January and I was very mentally robust in waves 1 and 2. I suspect the weather and shorter days has a lot to do with this

But we just can't have a repeat of those January numbers. It was both a national embarrassment and some of the saddest weeks this country has seen

Get the over 60s and vulnerable vaccinated. Nothing much will change till then

Until then we need to all man up a bit more

And some (not you Chin Chan, moreso what I see on and offline) need to grow up a bit more

I hear what you're saying but i think we need some real positivity from our Government that gives us hope for near future. For some people its so hard to look towards and plan for the future.

In these times if your not in Education you have no motivation to do anything because you have nothing to aim for, same could be said if your still lucky enough to be in work. I was due to get an important personal assessment last year but has been rescheduled and rescheduled because of these lockdowns

ujjjjjjjjj

TimeToShine wrote: »

The public don't give a fiddlers, go onto BBC's website and you actually have to work to find anything UK Covid related. RTE main page has the number of deaths screaming at you in big bold writing.

Business as usual this summer, guaranteed.

With the speed of the vaccine roleout in the UK (24.7% of adult population done now) the mood is shifting in the UK and they see things coming to an end.

They are flying along.

ujjjjjjjjj

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Not disagreeing with all your post, but this bit jumps out




A 19 year old passed away very recently

And have you a link that all those under 45 who passed had underlying symptoms?

Because I haven't seen that anywhere reported, nor do I believe it to be true

All here

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries22/

Takes a bit of digging but In table one all the data is there giving detailed breakdown of age profile and deaths with underlying conditions since the beginning ot this thing.

In summary average age of death is 83, vast majority are therefore very elderly and the numbers under 65 dieing are very low and many of these had underlying conditions.

People need to carefully read and understand this to get a perspective on the very low risk to a huge section of our population...the cso in fairness have been producing this since very early on and their data presentation is good.

Micky 32

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We all have

I'm struggling to get out of bed some days since early January and I was very mentally robust in waves 1 and 2 (by comparison anyway). I suspect the weather and shorter days has a lot to do with this

Yeah i’m finding the last week or so the toughest since it all began. It’s probably with all the good news of the vaccines before Christmas and then the sudden moving of the goalposts.

Charles Babbage

Coybig_ wrote: »

You must be very easily amazed.

People are angry that they are talking about having restrictions well into next year, at which point our entire population should have long been vaccinated.

Worth remembering that they repeatedly said that the vaccine would bring us out of this, that we just needed to hold on for the vaccine. Except, now it seems like the vaccine won't bring us out of this, in yet another monumental shifting of the goalposts.

Very easy to win. Don't keep changing the goalposts and be accountable for what you say. If the vaccine is supposed to bring the end of this then let it.

The entire population can only be vaccinated when they have a vaccine for children. These have yet to be trialled and approved.

ShineOn7

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

All here

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries22/

Thanks for the link

Of the 222 deaths in the 25-64 age group had underlying conditions.

I work that out as 82.5%

Obviously we'd like that to be 90% or higher, but it's still quite high

Although, another way to look at it, is that 1 in every 5 of those under 65 who passed away were perfectly healthy

I'm not sugarcoating or Gloom Porn-ing it either way. But it's good to see some stats on underlying conditions.

They never seem to bring it up at the briefings any more

They rarely have tbh

httpete

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Thanks for the link



I work that out as 82.5%

Obviously we'd like that to be 90% or higher, but it's still quite high

Although, another way to look at it, is that 1 in every 5 of those under 65 who passed away were perfectly healthy

I'm not sugarcoating or Gloom Porn-ing it either way. But it's good to see some stats on underlying conditions.

They never seem to bring it up at the briefings any more

They rarely have tbh

You should compare the stats for people age 15-44 dying from Covid with the stats for that age group dying from road accidents, or suicide, nevermind the various deaths that occur in that age range from various illnesses.

The 'risk' is incredibly small. Do you consider yourself at risk every day from dying in a road accident or suicide? Because you are much more likely to die from them than Covid if you are under 45. Deaths from Covid in the under 45's are extremely low. That's why its completely disingenuous for the media to highlight people in the 15-24 category dyring from Covid. How many in this age range die from suicide annually? 63 died from suicide in the 15-24 category in 2019. Less than 5 of this age category have died from Covid. Yet its all over the media when a 19 year old dies of Covid.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2020/0529/1143489-vital-statistics/

hatrickpatrick

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We all have

I'm struggling to get out of bed some days since early January and I was fairly mentally robust in waves 1 and 2 (by comparison anyway). I suspect the weather and shorter days has a lot to do with this

But we just can't have a repeat of those January numbers. It was both a national embarrassment and some of the saddest weeks this country has seen

Get the over 60s and vulnerable vaccinated. Nothing much will change till then

Until then we need to all man up a bit more

And some (not you Chin Chan, moreso what I see on and offline) need to grow up a bit more

Nobody is objecting to that. What people are objecting to is this new sh!te about remaining in some kind of life-lite even after mass vaccinations by September.

Varadkar has said that September is still the target. He's also basically said that Winter 2021 is off the table for reopening of mass socialising. So when you combine the two, he's saying that mass vaccination is no longer the criteria to re-open the social economy, and people are now scratching their heads and wondering what the f*ck is the criteria.

Real Donald Trump

ujjjjjjjjj wrote: »

With the speed of the vaccine roleout in the UK (24.7% of adult population done now) the mood is shifting in the UK and they see things coming to an end.

They are flying along.

Fair fecks to them. Brexit working out well..

Spanish Eyes

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Real Donald Trump wrote: »

Fair fecks to them. Brexit working out well..

Well indeed but it had nothing to do with Brexit really. Any country in EU could have taken the same gamble and forward planned.

But terror of stepping outside Von Der Leyens dictat froze everyone down.

So I cannot blame the Brexit Bods for gloating on any level. Fair dues.

Bit cynical

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Well indeed but it had nothing to do with Brexit really. Any country in EU could have taken the same gamble and forward planned.

We would quickly use up any remaining political capital with the EU if we tried anything like that.

Wanderer78

Real Donald Trump wrote:

Fair fecks to them. Brexit working out well..

Oh patience there, give it another while, when businesses start shutting down due to brexit.....

Samsonsmasher

ShineOn7 wrote: »

We all have

I'm struggling to get out of bed some days since early January and I was fairly mentally robust in waves 1 and 2 (by comparison anyway). I suspect the weather and shorter days has a lot to do with this

But we just can't have a repeat of those January numbers. It was both a national embarrassment and some of the saddest weeks this country has seen

Get the over 60s and vulnerable vaccinated. Nothing much will change till then

Until then we need to all man up a bit more

And some (not you Chin Chan, moreso what I see on and offline) need to grow up a bit more

Reminds me of that classic scene when Capt Blackadder asks if the battle plan is for the men to climb out of their trenches and walk slowly over no man's land toward the German like 17 times before?

ThunbergsAreGo

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

Jesus I cant wait to get back to New Zealand.

This is Brexit 2.0 nothing else to fill the airwaves, Holohan, Nolan and the Crazy gang over at FF and FG just loving the limelight.

Again I ask why there is ZERO balance in the reporting.

8k mainstream, 6k mainstream,4k...still mainstream 1.5k curve begins to flatten..not so much...media realise what's coming and need more click bait so start talking about future waves that may or may not happen....500 cases today cant even find it on the front page if the Irish Times apps.

I know loads of people who have tested positive and despite a runny nose they wouldn't know they've had it...

Dreadful virus if you're over 60..get them vaccinated.

0 deaths ages 0-25... 25 deaths 25-45 ages and those had underlying illnesses.

5 years of lockdown, get the **** out of here.

They have created a situation where a covid death is somehow worse than a non covid death.

It's ridiculous

normanoffside

Mr. Karate wrote: »

If Holohan, Martin and Varadkar were on the €350 throughout this they would have gotten over their love affair with lockdowns last year.

What’s even more annoying is they get to travel around and do their jobs as normal (same as journalists and media presenters who are also considered essential workers ).

Make them work from home too and let them see how much fun lockdowns are.

normanoffside

normanoffside wrote: »

What’s even more annoying is they get to travel around and do their jobs as normal (same as journalists and media presenters who are also considered essential workers ).

Make them work from home too and let them see how much fun lockdowns are.

Exactly....the people making these decisions are not locked up at home all day with only the prospect of a walk to break the monotony. They’re on TV every day, traveling, meeting people, doing interviews, getting their hair cut !!!! (Looking at ALL media personnel and politicians this time .....no shaggy unkempt heads at all !) A completely different life to the rest of us . Leo V was smirking his way through that interview last night.


I’m cracking up at the lack of clarity and the lack of positivity . This is beyond tough now.

NIMAN

There was a real standout kick in the gut for me yesterday when Sam McConkey said on The Last Word that he can see us fighting Covid for the next 3 to 5 years.

Matt Cooper nearly fainted I think!

As I posted elsewhere, this simply won't happen. We can't have lockdowns or restrictions for that length of time. Mainly because its just not affordable. And there would be civil unrest if this continues for that time.

I think it will reach a point, when the majority are vaccinated, that we will just have to open up fully and people will just have to take their chances. I think 2021 will be mostly a write-off too, but 2 years is all we can take of lockdowns and restrictions. 2022 will have to be fully open.

NIMAN

NIMAN wrote: »

There was a real standout kick in the gut for me yesterday when Sam McConkey said on The Last Word that he can see us fighting Covid for the next 3 to 5 years.

Matt Cooper nearly fainted I think!

As I posted elsewhere, this simply won't happen. We can't have lockdowns or restrictions for that length of time. Mainly because its just not affordable. And there would be civil unrest if this continues for that time.

I think it will reach a point, when the majority are vaccinated, that we will just have to open up fully and people will just have to take their chances. I think 2021 will be mostly a write-off too, but 2 years is all we can take of lockdowns and restrictions. 2022 will have to be fully open.

McDonkey is a spoofer. Wouldnt be listening to him. He said at the start of the pandemic that we will see thousands of deaths and a couple of hundred thousand cases in this country. Dont know why the media give him any air time

daheff

[Deleted User] wrote: »

McDonkey is a spoofer. Wouldnt be listening to him. He said at the start of the pandemic that we will see thousands of deaths and a couple of hundred thousand cases in this country. Dont know why the media give him any air time

Well....we've had 200k cases and over a 1k deaths...and we're still not done with Covid. Seems he's right on that score