Guinness SIX Nations 2021

Dickie10

how would an english win without bonus point effect the table? or France loss with bonus point.

Is it just me or does it feel like Ireland are not even playing in this competition this year? we really feel like a curtain raiser team this year with all the sunday games and early game vs italy

CatFromHue

Assuming Wales beat Italy then England and Ireland can't win the competition.

Scotland and France could both catch Wales.

A French loss to England and they could also still catch Wales but they'd need at least 9 points from their last two games, if not 10 depending on how their game against Wales goes.

thomond2006

Wales are due to be recompensed by the Mocker Gods for their ridiculous luck to date.
That will be five red cards for Wales then.

Digifriendly

Dickie10 wrote: »

how would an english win without bonus point effect the table? or France loss with bonus point.

Is it just me or does it feel like Ireland are not even playing in this competition this year? we really feel like a curtain raiser team this year with all the sunday games and early game vs italy

Sunday games are after Saturday double headers not before, so unsure where curtain raiser idea comes in. Having said that you do make a fair point as Sunday games are a bit like after the Lord Mayor's show. I never liked Sunday games in 6N as I think (even with crowds with the odd exception) were lacking in atmosphere. With 2 broadcasters over last number of years there is no reason why all 3 games couldn't have been played on all 5 Saturdays of the tournament rather than just the final weekend

lawred2

Digifriendly wrote: »

Sunday games are after Saturday double headers not before, so unsure where curtain raiser idea comes in. Having said that you do make a fair point as Sunday games are a bit like after the Lord Mayor's show. I never liked Sunday games in 6N as I think (even with crowds with the odd exception) were lacking in atmosphere. With 2 broadcasters over last number of years there is no reason why all 3 games couldn't have been played on all 5 Saturdays of the tournament rather than just the final weekend

I'd prefer the weekend to start with an 8pm Friday game and then two games on Saturday if they can't all be on Saturday.

Be less other sport to compete with as well on a Friday evening TV wise.

I never liked the 6n on a Sunday

Bazzo

As someone who works Saturdays having some games on other days is an absolute god send, don't care if it's Friday evening or Sunday. Having to use nearly a fifth of my annual leave if I wanted to watch all Ireland's 6 nations matches was the biggest ballache on earth.

Digifriendly

lawred2 wrote: »

I'd prefer the weekend to start with an 8pm Friday game and then two games on Saturday if they can't all be on Saturday.

Be less other sport to compete with as well on a Friday evening TV wise.

I never liked the 6n on a Sunday

They did have a number of 6n games on a Friday night but this caused problems in e.g. Cardiff with trains not running after a certain time. Also problem of away fans getting to a match without taking time off work.

It seems to me that Saturday is the best day for the matches and having an early afternoon KO, a teatime KO and evening KO is the best option as on the 'last' weekend this year.

lawred2

Digifriendly wrote: »

They did have a number of 6n games on a Friday night but this caused problems in e.g. Cardiff with trains not running after a certain time. Also problem of away fans getting to a match without taking time off work.

It seems to me that Saturday is the best day for the matches and having an early afternoon KO, a teatime KO and evening KO is the best option as on the 'last' weekend this year.

yerra don't have matches in Cardiff on a Friday night then

I'm fairly sure Dublin, London, Edinburgh, Rome and Paris could accommodate matches on a Friday night

As for travelling fans not getting time off work? That's an odd one.. Sure that applies to every sport. There'd never be any midweek sport if that was a real consideration.

Dickie10

lawred2 wrote: »

yerra don't have matches in Cardiff on a Friday night then

I'm fairly sure Dublin, London, Edinburgh, Rome and Paris could accommodate matches on a Friday night

As for travelling fans not getting time off work? That's an odd one.. Sure that applies to every sport. There'd never be any midweek sport if that was a real consideration.

Not much love for wales or cardiff on this thread!!

ArmaniJeanss

Digifriendly wrote: »

They did have a number of 6n games on a Friday night but this caused problems in e.g. Cardiff with trains not running after a certain time. Also problem of away fans getting to a match without taking time off work.

It seems to me that Saturday is the best day for the matches and having an early afternoon KO, a teatime KO and evening KO is the best option as on the 'last' weekend this year.

Neither BBC nor ITV wanted Saturday evening KOs as their big ratings programs (The Voice, BGT and the like) go out in this slot.

The next set of fixtures will plausibly include more 3 x Saturday game weeks if the bid is won by a sports station. Though they might still prefer to avoid going up against 'family tv' in that evening slot.

Digifriendly

lawred2 wrote: »

yerra don't have matches in Cardiff on a Friday night then

I'm fairly sure Dublin, London, Edinburgh, Rome and Paris could accommodate matches on a Friday night

As for travelling fans not getting time off work? That's an odd one.. Sure that applies to every sport. There'd never be any midweek sport if that was a real consideration.

Yes but 6N rugby fans are a breed by themselves IMH0. Big difference between soccer fans at a CL match and rugby fans at a 6N game. Remember away crowds at e.g. Scotland vs Wales 6N could reach 20,000 +. You would rarely get that away attendance at a Midweek European soccer match.

Weepsie

Digifriendly wrote: »

Yes but 6N rugby fans are a breed by themselves IMH0. Big difference between soccer fans at a CL match and rugby fans at a 6N game. Remember away crowds at e.g. Scotland vs Wales 6N could reach 20,000 +. You would rarely get that away attendance at a Midweek European soccer match.

You might if clubs got more than approx 3k tickets for their allocation (and that's being generous)

Don't forget to update your fantasy teams!

Just so .ak can copy me again:

.ak

I’m doing a terrible job of copying you in fairness, as I appear to be ahead of you currently...

PTH2009

Jesus I thought all Welsh were good singers

Dave_The_Sheep

To be fair to AWJ, he was belting that out.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

I’m doing a terrible job of copying you in fairness, as I appear to be ahead of you currently...

UAEguy2020

Based on the 6N so far Italy can expect absolutely 0 favors from Barnes today...

razorblunt

Bigi gives away a kick able penalty after 2 mins.
Needless too.

razorblunt

6 mins in and he has a yellow.
That’s ridiculous from him, a complete liability.

fullstop

Italy bring absolutely nothing to this tournament.

Burkie1203

Really positive from Wales. Call scrum so force Italy into making a change for the YC

UAEguy2020

Could learn a thing or two from Wales about taking your chances when they come, you know for a fact if we were in that position we would spend another 5-6 mins atleast there before getting a try or just conceding a turn over.

At what point will Italy's spot in the 6 Nations really be ad risk? It's like watching a fish out of water documentary at times.

razorblunt

As much as Italy shoot themselves in the foot, they continually get no help from the officials and it’s continuous.
3 Welsh defenders went so fell over themselves stand Barnes let them do it.

yerrahbah

This is going to get ugly

Pudsy33

Italy are going nowhere, there is better no alternative. Its a tiresome discussion.

Italy imploding here.

That feeling when the ball keeps going wide and the last two players are both on your fantasy team...

Scratchly

fullstop wrote: »

Italy bring absolutely nothing to this tournament.

Thats a ridiculous thing to say. They're the biggest supplier of bonus points in the competition!

AdamD

Deleted User wrote: »

That feeling when the ball keeps going wide and the last two players are both on your fantasy team...

Go yourself Louis!!

swiwi_

And I’m out until Le Crunch. Training ground run for Wales. Competition would be better with a return to 5 teams and no bye weeks.

degsie

Wales out for a stroll in the sunshine!

Bridge93

Italy’s error count is embarrassing. So is their penalty count. They do some things quite well but they are brainless

razorblunt

If they’re going to insist on keeping Italy in they may as well bring in relegation. You’d even get the Scots on board now they have notions about themselves.

thomond2006

Christ. This is like watching a Pro14 demolition.

Bridge93

4 attacks and 4 scores

sydthebeat

Ah that's piss poor from the Italians

Thrashssacre

thomond2006 wrote: »

Christ. This is like watching a Pro14 demolition.

Isn't that What it is?

thomond2006

Thrashssacre wrote: »

Isn't that What it is?

True that.

DJIMI TRARORE

Only thing of interest in this debacle is if Wales continues at a point per minute

Burkie1203

Wales could hit the 6n highest score if they keep going

razorblunt

No arms by Tipuric right in front of Barnes.

Italy will be stuck around the halfway line now instead of having a penalty.

Jaysus the shot of Franco Smith there...

UAEguy2020

razorblunt wrote: »

No arms by Tipuric right in front of Barnes.

Italy will be stuck around the halfway line now instead of having a penalty.

Wishful thinking even in a game like this that Wales will actually be reffed...

razorblunt

This is my 3rd post about it but Barnes spent time telling the Italians to roll “east or west” out of rucks. Every ruck since wales have rolled back to the 9 or up and over the tackled player slowing the Italians.
Nothing said, nothing given.

UAEguy2020

Need to find a rule to makes this tackle legal now...

Burkie1203

The follow up clear out needs looking at

UAEguy2020

Perfect way to not penalize him “I saw nothing”....