Is 2021 a write off?

Gael23 · 21-01-2021 1:44pm

FlubberJones wrote: »

In 4 months i would categorically say yes.

4 months? September is not 4 months

landofthetree · 21-01-2021 2:59pm

Summer events already being cancelled in the UK.

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/music/glastonbury-festival-cancelled-for-second-year-in-a-row-39995284.html

21-01-2021 3:07pm

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

August 2023 maybe

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised when they reopen in 2022

Sierra Oscar · 21-01-2021 3:59pm

Taoiseach warning restaurants and bars could be closed until the end of May.

Disappointing, I thought we might see a phased reopening of pubs / restaurants with food service and strict social distancing long before then. There is a really pessimistic tone coming from Government today, multiple senior politicians briefing that strict restrictions are here until late spring or early summer.

Restaurants and bars could stay closed until the end of May, says Taoiseach

Restaurants and bars could stay closed until the end of May, Taoiseach Micheál Martin, has warned.

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The head of the body representing restaurateurs in Ireland conceded it was "highly probable” that restaurants and hotels will remain closed until the start of May.

Adrian Cummins, CEO of the Restaurants Association of Ireland, said the key date for his industry was now the bank holiday weekend at the start of May.

Ireland nowhere near ready to ease level five restrictions - Varadkar

“I think it is fair to say we are nowhere near where we need to be at present to ease Level Five restrictions.

“But, of course, that doesn’t mean that schools can’t open in February and there is, of course, the possibility of opening more construction sites because they are not supposed to be closed in normal Level Five.”

Whiplash85 · 21-01-2021 4:12pm

So All hospitality to remain closed until May seems to be probable now.
By extension there will probably be no let up on travel either beyond county bounds unless for exceptional circumstances.

Schools to reopen after mid term in February along with construction.

Non essential retail probably to reopen around middle of March with sporting activities possibly at that point as well.

Sierra Oscar · 21-01-2021 4:17pm

Whiplash85 wrote: »

So All hospitality to remain closed until May seems to be probable now.
By extension there will probably be no let up on travel either beyond county bounds unless for exceptional circumstances.

Schools to reopen after mid term in February along with construction.

Non essential retail probably to reopen around middle of March with sporting activities possibly at that point as well.

It's looking that way. I was hoping we could see a big reprieve for the hospitality sector from early summer onwards, especially when it comes to weddings. However now we could have a situation where the numbers allowed might only increase from 6 to 25 by the start of June.

I was hopeful by that stage we could be looking at increasing numbers from 50 to 100. Huge difference for the hospitality sector between having 100 at a wedding as opposed to 25 in attendance.

FlubberJones · 21-01-2021 4:19pm

Gael23 wrote: »

4 months? September is not 4 months

My bad, for some reason i ignored the September bit...

Irish_peppa · 21-01-2021 4:24pm

Do any of you people fast forward 5 years still see masks as being an every day part of life for a small percentage of people in Ireland like asia?

Gael23 · 21-01-2021 4:28pm

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Do any of you people fast forward 5 years still see masks as being an every day part of life for a small percentage of people in Ireland like asia?

Some elderly people will remain quite fearful for a time, I wouldnt go as far as 5 years though

Mr. Karate · 21-01-2021 9:53pm

showpony1 wrote: »

Will we have to wear masks in shops in summer 2021 even though we didn't have to in summer 2020 and there were nearly no cases/deaths every day?

Hopefully not. They should let us take them off from Spring until Fall when barely anyone gets sick during those months. Give us a break from them. Especially intend to make us wear them again come Winter.

mcburns07 · 21-01-2021 10:12pm

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Hopefully not. They should let us take them off from Spring until Fall when barely anyone gets sick during those months. Give us a break from them. Especially intend to make us wear them again come Winter.

Why would we have to wear them once everyone is vaccinated?

Mr. Karate · 21-01-2021 10:29pm

mcburns07 wrote: »

Why would we have to wear them once everyone is vaccinated?

They'll find a reason.

GazzaL · 21-01-2021 10:56pm

The reopening of the country will be decided by the UK, the EU, Irish businesses and the self-employed. NPHET don't want to re-open ever, the Government don't want to take responsibility for anything, hence why they gave NPHET such prominence, they will both have to be dragged kicking and screaming along with the lockdown merchants. There's already a sizeable amount of people who are ignoring level 5 and continuing to work and socialise.

aido79 · 21-01-2021 11:06pm

Mr. Karate wrote: »

They'll find a reason.

Why would they want to find a reason? You're heading for conspiracy theory territory....

landofthetree · 22-01-2021 12:27am

https://twitter.com/Rover829/status/1352396458369179649

SnuggyBear · 22-01-2021 12:38am

aido79 wrote: »

Why would they want to find a reason? You're heading for conspiracy theory territory....

I wouldn't be surprised to see them being used in the winter in some situations from now on

landofthetree · 22-01-2021 12:40am

Irish_peppa wrote: »

Do any of you people fast forward 5 years still see masks as being an every day part of life for a small percentage of people in Ireland like asia?

I worry that semi-lockdown and mask wearing will become the norm in Dec,Jan,Feb when the crisis is finally over.

completedit · 22-01-2021 12:45am

How come the mood is so bleak even though we have multiple vaccines being distributed and administered throughout Ireland, Europe and the world as we speak? While we had the most restrictive measures throughout Europe during the summer, there was an air of normality at times. Why the long-term pessimism? Surely we just need to get over next few weeks and then things will begin to look clearer.

It's like Covid 2.0. The old Covid wasn't that bad really; it's the British and South African variants now that justify the lockdowns. Imagine we had no vaccine. Our lives are **** now but imagine how long this could potentially have gone on for?

22-01-2021 12:46am

landofthetree wrote: »

I worry that semi-lockdown and mask wearing will become the norm in Dec,Jan,Feb when the crisis is finally over.

Ultimately it might be that people will have to protest against this. Or just not comply.

Or vote for politicians who promise that this won’t happen.

aido79 · 22-01-2021 12:48am

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised to see them being used in the winter in some situations from now on

I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case, but it won't be anything to do with the government making them compulsory like some people suggest.
It may even be public health advice in the future, but that's all it will be...advice.

SnuggyBear · 22-01-2021 12:50am

aido79 wrote: »

I'd be surprised if this wasn't the case, but it won't be anything to do with the government making them compulsory like some people suggest.
It may even be public health advice in the future, but that's all it will be...advice.

I could definetly see my workplace making it policy. I'll go somewhere else if that's the case.

Mr. Karate · 22-01-2021 12:56am

aido79 wrote: »

Why would they want to find a reason? You're heading for conspiracy theory territory....

Considering the initial lockdown went from 2 weeks ["2 weeks to flatten the curve.", "The next 2 weeks are crucial." anyone?] and was stretched out for three months and then they can't let us have 5 minutes of freedom without talking about the next lockdown ever since.

Yeah, thinking they'll find a reason to keep the masks and lockdowns going once everyone is vaccinated is crazy conspiracy theorytalk. :rolleyes:

aido79 · 22-01-2021 1:25am

SnuggyBear wrote: »

I could definetly see my workplace making it policy. I'll go somewhere else if that's the case.

Just for winter or all year round?

aido79 · 22-01-2021 1:28am

Mr. Karate wrote: »

Considering the initial lockdown went from 2 weeks ["2 weeks to flatten the curve.", "The next 2 weeks are crucial." anyone?] and was stretched out for three months and then they can't let us have 5 minutes of freedom without talking about the next lockdown ever since.

Yeah, thinking they'll find a reason to keep the masks and lockdowns going once everyone is vaccinated is crazy conspiracy theorytalk. :rolleyes:

What does a government have to gain by making people wear masks?
Yes it is crazy conspiracy theory talk. What else would it be?

SnuggyBear · 22-01-2021 1:29am

aido79 wrote: »

Just for winter or all year round?

The rest of the year into 2022 at least I'd say and maybe every winter

Character Building · 22-01-2021 1:34am

Glastonbury cancelled. Hard to see any music festivals taking place this year.

PTH2009 · 22-01-2021 1:40am

Character Building wrote: »

Glastonbury cancelled. Hard to see any music festivals taking place this year.

Let's hope we see 3Arena concerts return during/after the summer. A small issue that may affect us is the current mess in the UK with them planning not to give visiting visas to touring bands/crew etc. Would bands really bother coming to us if they cant tour in the UK ?

douglashyde · 22-01-2021 2:26am

GazzaL wrote: »

The reopening of the country will be decided by the UK, the EU, Irish businesses and the self-employed. NPHET don't want to re-open ever, the Government don't want to take responsibility for anything, hence why they gave NPHET such prominence, they will both have to be dragged kicking and screaming along with the lockdown merchants. There's already a sizeable amount of people who are ignoring level 5 and continuing to work and socialise.

Well said.

NPHET has a single focus; To rid Ireland of CV19.
Led by a Dr. Holohan, the man who advised the the health minister not to have an external body investigate the CervicalCheck scandal as it would damage public trust. He's doctor turned marketeer.

They are not concerned with cancer, heart disease, alcoholism, suicide, violence, employment or people's happiness. They have their mission objective and that's that.

A vaccine, strong leadership and most importantly, public pressure will take us out of this mess.

46 Long · 22-01-2021 7:56am

completedit wrote: »

Why the long-term pessimism? Surely we just need to get over next few weeks and then things will begin to look clearer.

It's almost like you're saying the next few weeks will be crucial or something?

DulchieLaois · 22-01-2021 2:31pm

Coybig_ wrote: »

How far are Australia and New Zealand away from the nearest country?

Do Australia and New Zealand have membership in the EU?

Do Australia and New Zealand share a land border with another country?

Do Australia and New Zealand have to abide by the rules of the Good Friday Agreement?

Do Australia and New Zealand have a Common Travel Area agreement with another country?

How do you propose Ireland manages in terms of imports?

What do you propose Irish citizens abroad do?

What happens in April/May if we still have cases?

Do you think a PCR test being required is adequate, as is not in place? If not, why not?

If you would kindly answer the above, maybe someone will take you seriously. Thanks.

Thought to share this article with you, I totally agree with this article, otherwise, it still be lockdowns all the way to 2022

‘Ireland is an island, it can be sealed’- top microbiologist says zero-Covid model needed to avoid lockdowns until 2022

Is 2021 a write off?

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