Is 2021 a write off?

aido79

DulchieLaois wrote: »

Thought to share this article with you, I totally agree with this article, otherwise, it still be lockdowns all the way to 2022

‘Ireland is an island, it can be sealed’- top microbiologist says zero-Covid model needed to avoid lockdowns until 2022

I presume this is the article you meant to share

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.independent.ie/irish-news/health/ireland-is-an-island-it-can-be-sealed-top-microbiologist-says-zero-covid-model-needed-to-avoid-lockdowns-until-2022-39998214.html

Maybe he should concentrate on the UK since he lives there. Someone should ask him if he thinks that Britain can also be sealed since it is also an island and roughly the same size as New Zealand which he is using as his example.

It's very easy for a microbiologist to come out with stuff like this and in the perfect world it could be done but can you see how it might be difficult politically to make it happen?

ShineOn7

Glastonbury cancelled

The latest Bond movie pushed back again till at least October

The usual Sugar-coaters who think things will be like 2019 by September are completely delusional

ShineOn7

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Glastonbury cancelled

The latest Bond movie pushed back again till at least October

The usual Sugar-coaters who think things will be like 2019 by September are completely delusional

People are trying to be hopeful and dealing with a lot of fear and uncertainty. It's another way of coping just the same as focusing on negativity or worst case scenarios helps others.

FlubberJones

Deleted User wrote: »

People are trying to be hopeful and dealing with a lot of fear and uncertainty. It's another way of coping just the same as focusing on negativity or worst case scenarios helps others.

For every "sugar coater" there are ten doomsayers, almost relishing the moment they get say "extended lockdown" "cancel 2021" "hospitality closed till june"

They're queuing up to get there vitriol out there.

Personally, I think 4 months and we'll be looking far far better and getting into the new way to work and live and importantly we will enjoy it.

FlubberJones

FlubberJones wrote: »

For every "sugar coater" there are ten doomsayers, almost relishing the moment they get say "extended lockdown" "cancel 2021" "hospitality closed till june"

They're queuing up to get there vitriol out there.

Personally, I think 4 months and we'll be looking far far better and getting into the new way to work and live and importantly we will enjoy it.

There are those who think Covid is a bit of a flu and those who thinks we will be living with restrictions in to 2023. Then there's the rest of us in between.

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1352629709369208837

The EU isnt helping.

completedit

We shut down whole economies to help the vulnerable pensioners but God forbid we help poor people in poor countries.

PTH2009

Curtains slowly going down on 2021 :( 11 months beofre it ends

These new deadly strains of the virus emerging
the slow approval of vaccines
summer events been cancelled already
looking like travel will be banned

****ing hell :mad::mad::mad:

funnydoggy

PTH2009 wrote: »

These new deadly strains of the virus

It isn't the case yet, it's inconclusive.

lee_baby_simms

PTH2009 wrote: »

Curtains slowly going down on 2021 :( 11 months beofre it ends

These new deadly strains of the virus emerging
the slow approval of vaccines
summer events been cancelled already
looking like travel will be banned

****ing hell :mad::mad::mad:

On days like these I feel like an unwitting participant in a twisted human experiment.

Dry January was a bad ****ing idea.

Le Bruise

PTH2009 wrote: »

Curtains slowly going down on 2021 :( 11 months beofre it ends

These new deadly strains of the virus emerging
the slow approval of vaccines
summer events been cancelled already
looking like travel will be banned

****ing hell :mad::mad::mad:

First half of 2021 maybe....I still have faith the second half will be better (4th quarter especially!).

Van.Bosch

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

Dry January was a bad ****ing idea.

Think tonight is the night I pack it in

statto25

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

On days like these I feel like an unwitting participant in a twisted human experiment.

Dry January was a bad ****ing idea.

Go in and get yourself a drink. January is too miserable already without denying yourself something you enjoy

Van.Bosch

statto25 wrote: »

Go in and get yourself a drink. January is too miserable already without denying yourself something you enjoy

You’re right - just made the off licence before it closed.

PTH2009

PTH2009 wrote: »

looking like travel will be banned

Travel will be banned? Not going to happen. If someone needs to travel, they will be able to travel.

douglashyde wrote: »

A vaccine, strong leadership and most importantly, public pressure will take us out of this mess.

The government has to step up to the plate now, and the opposition, who have been equally awful since the start of the pandemic, need to hold them to account if they don't. I fear for 2021 if NPHET are not reigned in. The time has come to get this vaccine rolled out.

opinionated3

statto25 wrote: »

Go in and get yourself a drink. January is too miserable already without denying yourself something you enjoy

Make it a strong one cos the news from astrazeneca has essentially made 2021 a write off for this country I reckon. The lockdown merchants are celebrating tonight....

opinionated3

opinionated3 wrote: »

Make it a strong one cos the news from astrazeneca has essentially made 2021 a write off for this country I reckon. The lockdown merchants are celebrating tonight....

They are ramping up in February. Let's not panic. However Ireland is falling behind, Britain has nearly vaccinated all 80+ year olds.

Its time now for the government to step up rather than depend on the populace.

Mr. Karate

opinionated3 wrote: »

Make it a strong one cos the news from astrazeneca has essentially made 2021 a write off for this country I reckon. The lockdown merchants are celebrating tonight....

What did astrazeneca say?

IngazZagni

Deleted User wrote: »

They are ramping up in February. Let's not panic. However Ireland is falling behind, Britain has nearly vaccinated all 80+ year olds.

Its time now for the government to step up rather than depend on the populace.

How can we go faster than the EU agreement we are tied into?

Sierra Oscar

Mr. Karate wrote: »

What did astrazeneca say?

Number of doses set to be delivered to the EU cut by 31m or 60% in Q1 2021. Major issue at a production facility with much lower than expected yields apparently.

IngazZagni

IngazZagni wrote: »

How can we go faster than the EU agreement we are tied into?

Ok, then the EU needs to up its game. And the government. And is that the reason anyway? We will see how the government does when we get enough vaccines. Theres always the Chinese and Russian vaccines.

Mr. Karate

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Number of doses set to be delivered to the EU cut by 31m or 60% in Q1 2021. Major issue at a production facility with much lower than expected yields apparently.

Thanks. I'm sure Tony rubbed one out at the thought of being able to impose more lockdowns.

We'll have to move Countries at this rate to enjoy normality. We can Switzerland to the Countries revolting against lockdowns. Apparently they intend to hold a referendum to strip the Govt of its powers to impose more lockdowns.

Lockdowns can't go on forever. If deaths fall over, and they should if the vulnerable are vaccinated, then we should at least try level 2 or 3. Summer should see a respite. Use that time to get to vaccine herd immunity.

PTH2009

Deleted User wrote: »

Lockdowns can't go on forever. If deaths fall over, and they should if the vulnerable are vaccinated, then we should at least try level 2 or 3. Summer should see a respite. Use that time to get to vaccine herd immunity.

This is Ireland

Mr. Karate

Deleted User wrote: »

Lockdowns can't go on forever. If deaths fall over, and they should if the vulnerable are vaccinated, then we should at least try level 2 or 3. Summer should see a respite. Use that time to get to vaccine herd immunity.

He'll find a way. If NPHET was a Fortune 500 company they would have been accused of cooking the books by now.

Gael23

With yesterday’s news from AstraZeneca it very likely is a write off now

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

Lockdowns can't go on forever. If deaths fall over, and they should if the vulnerable are vaccinated, then we should at least try level 2 or 3. Summer should see a respite. Use that time to get to vaccine herd immunity.

I can hear Tony already, "while we are now on track to have 100% vaccination cover, some very worrying news in XXXX means we're at an inflection point and level 5 will continue indefinitely".

SafeSurfer

Do you ever get the feeling that we are not being told the full story? It’s an unprecedented global response to a virus with no symptoms or illness for the vast, vast majority of those infected.
Are countries committing Hari Kari on their citizens to prolong the lives of the, mainly, already old and sick?

Remember these are governments that still allow cigarettes to be sold despite the WHO reporting them causing over 8 million deaths a year.

HBC08

lee_baby_simms wrote: »

On days like these I feel like an unwitting participant in a twisted human experiment.

Dry January was a bad ****ing idea.

I do it every year,not a runner this year.Food,sex and booze are the only things left.

joe40

SafeSurfer wrote: »

Do you ever get the feeling that we are not being told the full story? It’s an unprecedented global response to a virus with no symptoms or illness for the vast, vast majority of those infected.
Are countries committing Hari Kari on their citizens to prolong the lives of the, mainly, already old and sick?

Remember these are governments that still allow cigarettes to be sold despite the WHO reporting them causing over 8 million deaths a year.

Our ICU depts are full of people with the same disease. That is unprecedented in modern times.
But yeah a virus with no symptoms...