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Donald Trump discussion Thread IX (threadbanned users listed in OP)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,817 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    anyone know why the senators cant ask questions directly?

    I’m assuming it’s a rule that’s been in the senate since Robert Todd Lincoln was a young fella.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    anyone know why the senators cant ask questions directly?

    May be a simple way to control, as the Senators are not allowed enter into any debate, at this point.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,254 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Lovely leading question by Bernie.

    Puts it up to the defense to toe the line about a stolen election or tell the truth and risk the wrath of trump


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,817 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    The lawyer for trump is a bad mood and not answering the questions.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,552 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    anyone know why the senators cant ask questions directly?

    Because some of them are under the table telling the defense what to say and it would be obvious if they were to ask a question from that position.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    ted cruz's question should be good. he has his eye on 2024


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    ted cruz's question should be good. he has his eye on 2024

    maybe not


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,817 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Funny how the question from cruz( who met with these lawyers) this guy has a prepared answer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,947 ✭✭✭circadian


    This defence is unbelievably bad. Like someone said, they make Lionel Hutz look good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Cassidy asking a Q, this should be good. It's against Trump.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    circadian wrote: »
    This defence is unbelievably bad. Like someone said, they make Lionel Hutz look good.

    he's not the most energetic or engaging in fairness. but he cant prove a negative

    its up to the prosecution to prove that trump incited a riot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    he's not the most energetic or engaging in fairness. but he cant prove a negative

    its up to the prosecution to prove that trump incited a riot.

    Think Raskin answered that well for you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i like jamie raskin, had a very hard time over the last few months.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,817 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Water John wrote: »
    Cassidy asking a Q, this should be good. It's against Trump.

    And it was. And the trump lawyer got pissy about it. Getting annoyed and saying “but the democrats...” isn’t answering the serious questions your client has.


  • Registered Users Posts: 39,817 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    i like jamie raskin, had a very hard time over the last few months.

    I do too. I loved his answer to the one about democrats objecting to electors and he was able to list off the one he made and what the issue with Florida was and also the then VP Biden didn’t entertain it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    And it was. And the trump lawyer got pissy about it. Getting annoyed and saying “but the democrats...” isn’t answering the serious questions your client has.

    yeah, he needs to give up with the whataboutery.

    like, that video of the dems is completely irrelevant. at worst it demonstrates that he did incite the riot, but what about the dems, they did the same thing? why not impeach those?

    irrelevant, not the question in hand should have been his answer or position.


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    Good Question from Senator Guganthall (unsure about spelling)


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Good Question from Senator Guganthall (unsure about spelling)

    Bluementhal maybe?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i'd say trump is going mad. yer man going on about the higher standard politicians should be afforded vs firefighters.

    just stick with the constitution mate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    i'd say trump is going mad. yer man going on about the higher standard politicians should be afforded vs firefighters.

    just stick with the constitution mate.

    They won't get paid.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 54,122 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    I suspect if Trumps lawyers just came out and said yup he did it, no bones about it

    The GOP would still vote against the impeachment


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    lol...can the house mangers answer the question, that was the question.

    raskin...i dont know what the question was but let me just say....


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Headshot wrote: »
    I suspect if Trumps lawyers just came out and said yup he did it, no bones about it

    The GOP would still vote against the impeachment

    and if all evidence (which has yet to be presented) that trump actually incited a riot, how would the dems vote?

    its nearly pointless.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Water John wrote: »
    They won't get paid.

    they all want their air time


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,552 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Raskin way ahead of anyone else in this phase of the proceedings. Able to quote prior case specifically, the defense attorney needs the question read again repeatedly.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Hillary has somehow entered the debate!


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Raskin way ahead of anyone else in this phase of the proceedings. Able to quote prior case specifically, the defense attorney needs the question read again repeatedly.

    way more articulate, but he's yet to prove that trump incited a riot.

    i feel sorry for patrick leahy


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,552 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    way more articulate, but he's yet to prove that trump incited a riot.

    i feel sorry for patrick leahy

    It's beyond a reasonable doubt for me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,319 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    way more articulate, but he's yet to prove that trump incited a riot.

    i feel sorry for patrick leahy

    Again you're making the mistake of applying the criminal law test. This is not a criminal case. As Raskin said it's about common sense.

    BTW it's beyond reasonable doubt for me too, but the bar here is not even that high.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,763 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    Water John wrote: »
    Again you're making the mistake of applying the criminal law test. This is not a criminal case. As Raskin said it's about common sense.

    is that the test? criminal law is beyond reasonable doubt, civil is on the balance of probability.

    i think trump knew exactly what he was doing, but you're into thought crimes at that stage, so you still need evidence.

    has there been any?


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