Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

decreds

Lundstram wrote: »

BLM protests for some black guy in a different continent in the middle of a pandemic in which we knew little about = Okay, work away lads.

Protests to ease restrictions for what we know now to be a mild virus with over 99% survival rate = You're all loons and nutjobs.

What a strange little country we live in.

We've been completely brainwashed/programmed by the messages pumped out by the media.

Boggles

Lundstram wrote: »

BLM protests for some black guy in a different continent in the middle of a pandemic in which we knew little about = Okay, work away lads.

Protests to ease restrictions for what we know now to be a mild virus with over 99% survival rate = You're all loons and nutjobs.

What a strange little country we live in.

They sure do hate when racism is highlighted.

Triggers them something fierce.

Windmill100000

Protesting was always on the cards at some point. There were mask protests last year when they were made mandatory in shops and on public transport. But, if cases start going up and lockdown is increased further, I don't think people will be sympathetic to the cause.

normanoffside

Boggles wrote: »

Of course it is, if you are circulating their "flyer" and attending their "protest" you are promoting their lunacy.

But like I said let us know how you get on.

I’ve been radicalised boggles, not by the protest organisers but by our health authorities, government and media.

FlubberJones

Deleted User wrote: »

So your solution is if you can't beat them join them?

The restrictions have brought the cases down from 8000 per day to the current level, but we are still having cases in the hundreds every day.

So sick of reading the constant whinging here about how long the restrictions have been going on for, when the very reason the level hasn't been lightened is because of rampant non-compliance. Look what happened after Christmas when they lifted restrictions for a couple of weeks.

Now more and more here are saying they're going to just give up and do whatever the **** they like. And they'll wonder in 3, 4, 5 weeks time, why the numbers are going up again, and the restrictions have to be continued.

Its very disheartening for anyone who is vulnerable to read this, especially when the vaccination programme has been started and there could be an end in sight.

But sure, "other people are not your concern". I honestly give up.

I complied constantly... it made no difference. Christmas we met two people... that was it.

I did not add to this issue, others did, so now I could care less,

In honesty I have a small circle of friends and zero family here and will still be in the required.... but if others do it... good luck and enjoy yourselves

ninebeanrows

Around my neighbourhood safe to say people have packed it in

Several gatherings in homes, roads busy. It’s coming to an end folks

Silentcorner

decreds wrote: »

We've been completely brainwashed/programmed by the messages pumped out by the media.

Stay at home Save Lives

It is simple and powerful, repeated everywhere, pushed everywhere...

Now people think it is dangerous for Grand parents to hug their grand kids...I hope those of you who have succumb to hysteria will one day hang your heads in shame, denying Grand parents a hug from their grand kids is something I'll never get over, that took a lot of hysteria to get us there!!!

Real Donald Trump

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Around my neighbourhood safe to say people have packed it in

Several gatherings in homes, roads busy. It’s coming to an end folks

MeeHole really shot himself in the foot over the past few days :pac:

normanoffside

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Around my neighbourhood safe to say people have packed it in

Several gatherings in homes, roads busy. It’s coming to an end folks

Mehole’s mumbling This week has been the nail in the coffin, there’s little doubt about it in my mind.

decreds

I recommend people watch the 1970's film The Hamburg Syndrome ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOjDL2FX0_8)

A "pandemic" breakouts out but no healthy people actually die from it and people are forced into lockdown and wear masks etc. The media repeat how serious it is on a daily basis but in reality no one is actually dying from it.

Those who don't believe in it and refuse to take the vaccine are swiftly to "quarantine camps" and the rest are vaccinated.

There is a scene in it where the elites behind the plan are at a party and are gloatingly dumbfounded by how easy it was to pull of, they laugh over using distractions such as "liberalism", "racism" and "environmentalism" made it too easy.

I'm not one for tinfoil hat theories but this is worth a watch.

normanoffside

Silentcorner wrote: »

Stay at home Save Lives

It is simple and powerful, repeated everywhere, pushed everywhere...

Now people think it is dangerous for Grand parents to hug their grand kids...I hope those of you who have succumb to hysteria will one day hang your heads in shame, denying Grand parents a hug from their grand kids is something I'll never get over, that took a lot of hysteria to get us there!!!

#holdfirm.

Graham

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Several gatherings in homes, roads busy. It’s coming to an end folks

Sounds like the path to lower case numbers alright :rolleyes:

end of the road

Deleted User wrote: »

Boggles over here with his faux-concern about protestors being tarred with the wrong brush

Every protest group in history has had its loons and extremists, including Black Lives Matters' "trained Marxists" and smattering of black supremacists. That doesn't mean those groups didn't have an overall good cause and sentiment outside of the extreme few.

No protest movement would have gotten anywhere if everyone had stayed home for fear of being tarred with the same brush as the loons.

yes, but we aren't talking about a group who are wanting to bring some sort of genuine change for the genuine good, are we.
we are talking about a group who believe in conspiricy theories, who are protesting because nobody will listen to their conspiricy theories.
we then have others who are unable to deal with and face up to the situation we are in, because they are genuinely unable to do so or because they are just out to cause trouble for some political motive.
the ones out to cause trouble do not listen to facts, listen to alternative facts and conspiricy theories and twist facts to suit their narative.
they want us to implement a strategy that has already failed and causes much much more damage over all because they think some how they can jump in and save us from sensible politics.

Silentcorner

Graham wrote: »

Sounds like the path to lower case numbers alright :rolleyes:

Well, no one is stopping you from hiding under your bed, you should be safe there!

decreds

Another masterstroke has been the ramp up in cancel culture, it has invoked fear in the majority of people to question any of this lunacy at fear of being cancelled and ridiculed in public.

A distant relative is a strength and conditioning coach for a team in England, all the players take the knee and share the same old covid "stay apart to stay together" bs on social media but in person they don't believe it any of it.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

ninebeanrows wrote: »

Around my neighbourhood safe to say people have packed it in

Several gatherings in homes, roads busy. It’s coming to an end folks

That's great as long as people are being smart about it . I'm happy to socialise with one or two People who like myself are working from.and not mixing with others as I know we are all in the same boat .
All these people who day it's coming to an end seem to forget that while we control.how far we travel and who we mix with , we don't really have a say over schools, sports,kids activities, holidays etc.. We could end up as a nation of house parties who are the pariahs of Europe and banned from Spain,Greece etc..
Personally if I the government days wear a green jumper for a 2 weeks and we'll reopen golf courses , I'll do it . I need my normal back , but that gets further away with every person who "dangerously" bends the rules

Lundstram

Graham wrote: »

Sounds like the path to lower case numbers alright :rolleyes:

So what? We are at level 5 now so who cares if they rise, we'll still be at level 5.

If you're scared, stay under your bed.

I just don't give a sh1t anymore.

And I make no apologies for that.

Boggles

Silentcorner wrote: »

Now people think it is dangerous for Grand parents to hug their grand kids...I hope those of you who have succumb to hysteria will one day hang your heads in shame, denying Grand parents a hug from their grand kids is something I'll never get over, that took a lot of hysteria to get us there!!!

Who did that?

1000's of dead Grand Parents = fine

Not hugging them = I'll never get over it.

ErnieG

normanoffside wrote: »

No, they’ll end when enough people demand they end.

They’ll end when other nearby countries end theirs. What the govt is saying now about May and June means nothing. As Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, France end restrictions we’ll follow. Probably with about a 2 week lag to the most conservative of that group.

WhiteMemento9

Lundstram wrote: »

BLM protests for some black guy in a different continent in the middle of a pandemic in which we knew little about = Okay, work away lads.

Protests to ease restrictions for what we know now to be a mild virus with over 99% survival rate = You're all loons and nutjobs.

What a strange little country we live in.

You love making up a narrative and then posting it as some factual thing. There was absolute outrage over the BLM protests in Dublin. I can easily dig up threads to support the widespread condemnation of those protests happening during coronavirus.

As usual, though you don't let the truth or facts getting in the way of your posts.

decreds

Silentcorner wrote: »

Stay at home Save Lives

It is simple and powerful, repeated everywhere, pushed everywhere...

Now people think it is dangerous for Grand parents to hug their grand kids...I hope those of you who have succumb to hysteria will one day hang your heads in shame, denying Grand parents a hug from their grand kids is something I'll never get over, that took a lot of hysteria to get us there!!!

It is indeed. It plays on the sub conscious mind, note how these messages are always in the background and may be red/blue as the mind has been conditioned to view those colors as authoritative.


The main message or purpose of a talk or advertisement will not specifically state those words but it is always in the background. It is powerful and has clearly worked, i've witnessed grown men in their 30's wearing a mask walking down the road by themselves literally cross the road to avoid me on a near daily basis. ( i like to think it's due to covid fear anyway)

decreds

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You love making up a narrative and then posting it as some factual thing. There was absolute outrage over the BLM protests in Dublin. I can easily dig up threads to support the widespread condemnation of those protests happening during coronavirus.

As usual, though you don't let the truth or facts getting in the way of your posts.

Yeah, easy to dig up threads as it's bound to have some rationale beings in there but i do not remember any outrage in the media over it whatsoever.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Silentcorner wrote: »

Well, no one is stopping you from hiding under your bed, you should be safe there!

The thing is for a lot of people it's not about protecting themselves , it's about protecting others who are more vulnerable. I'd like to visit my parents and the only thing that's stopping me is the chance that I might infect them unknowingly not any government restrictions.
Also the long term effects are something I've seen first hand and something I'd be keen to avoid

Loafing Oaf

decreds wrote: »

I'm not one for tinfoil hat theories

Silentcorner

decreds wrote: »

It is indeed. It plays on the sub conscious mind, note how these messages are always in the background and may be red/blue as the mind has been conditioned to view those colors as authoritative.


The main message or purpose of a talk or advertisement will not specifically state those words but it is always in the background. It is powerful and has clearly worked, i've witnessed grown men in their 30's wearing a mask walking down the road by themselves literally cross the road to avoid me on a near daily basis. ( i like to think it's due to covid fear anyway)

I've spotted that as well.

People driving cars on their own wearing a mask.

Pump enough fear into people and watch them dance!

normanoffside

ErnieG wrote: »

They’ll end when other nearby countries end theirs. What the govt is saying now about May and June means nothing. As Belgium, the Netherlands, Germany, France end restrictions we’ll follow. Probably with about a 2 week lag to the most conservative of that group.

That didn’t work last year

decreds

Boggles wrote: »

Who did that?

1000's of dead Grand Parents = fine

Not hugging them = I'll never get over it.

Talk about hyperbolic.



There is zero proof that 1000's of grand parents have died from the "disease".


Aul grand dad had heart disease and diabetes for years and just had a heart attack but died after being diagnosed with "Covid19".



Give me a break

WhiteMemento9

decreds wrote: »

Yeah, easy to dig up threads as it's bound to have some rationale beings in there but i do not remember any outrage in the media over it whatsoever.

I don't need to dredge those threads to find posts. It was pages and pages of people condemning the protests.

Boggles

decreds wrote: »

Talk about hyperbolic.



There is zero proof that 1000's of grand parents have died from the "disease".


Aul grand dad had heart disease and diabetes for years and just had a heart attack but died after being diagnosed with "Covid19".



Give me a break

I imagine you'll be on the march, won't you?

Silentcorner

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

The thing is for a lot of people it's not about protecting themselves , it's about protecting others who are more vulnerable. I'd like to visit my parents and the only thing that's stopping me is the chance that I might infect them unknowingly not any government restrictions.
Also the long term effects are something I've seen first hand and something I'd be keen to avoid

And you are entitled to stay under your bed as well...nothing stopping you!

decreds

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

It's too easy to dismiss people who question all of this as tinfoil hat, anti vaxx etc. It's a very lazy argument.


The Hamburg Syndrome film i posted is not a conspiracy theory YT clip with a clear narrative, it's a 1970's film that is eerily similar to what is going on today. I posted for comedic value and to hopefully give people something to think about instead of being pumped with propaganda by the state.

Doctor Jimbob

Silentcorner wrote: »

I've spotted that as well.

People driving cars on their own wearing a mask.

Pump enough fear into people and watch them dance!

I've been driving on my own plenty of times with a mask on and it has nothing to do with fear. It's just easy to throw it on as I'm leaving the house rather than putting it in my pocket and doing it at the shop.

Graham

Lundstram wrote: »

So what? We are at level 5 now so who cares if they rise, we'll still be at level 5.

In which case we're likely to stay at 5 for longer.

Lundstram wrote: »

If you're scared, stay under your bed.

Seriously, you're going for the 'scaredy cat' retort? You know that kinda loses any impact above the age of 10.

decreds

Boggles wrote: »

I imagine you'll be on the march, won't you?

March for what?

decreds

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

I don't need to dredge those threads to find posts. It was pages and pages of people condemning the protests.

Where was the condemnation in the media?

WhiteMemento9

Deleted User wrote: »

Boggles over here with his faux-concern about protestors being tarred with the wrong brush :pac:

Every protest group in history has had its loons and extremists, including Black Lives Matters' "trained Marxists" and smattering of black supremacists. That doesn't mean those groups didn't have an overall good cause and sentiment outside of the extreme few.

No protest movement would have gotten anywhere if everyone had stayed home for fear of being tarred with the same brush as the loons.

I have now read this post a dozen times. I don't even know how I would report the content of this post but it makes me feel very uneasy and I have to say I think this thread in parts is bordering on dangerous with this kind of talk along with misinformation that is going unchecked.

end of the road

Lundstram wrote: »

BLM protests for some black guy in a different continent in the middle of a pandemic in which we knew little about = Okay, work away lads.

Protests to ease restrictions for what we know now to be a mild virus with over 99% survival rate = You're all loons and nutjobs.

What a strange little country we live in.

nope, there was plenty of agreement that the blm protests shouldn't have gone ahead and this was openly stated, even by most of us who agreed with those protests in general.
of course plenty of use of those protests going ahead to push certain "agendas" as well.
it's not a mild virus with a 99% survival rate, it's a serious virus with a majority survival rate but which will still cause serious amounts of deaths and other effects if not controlled properly.
even when controlled it causes more deaths then similar viruses.

normanoffside wrote: »

No, they’ll end when enough people demand they end.

nope, they will end when it is decided by the actual experts that it is safe for them to end based on the evidence.
people "demanding" they end will not end them, it's just not going to happen, if needs be they will just be extended and made harder.
not a chance are the government going to give into those who do not wish to comply.

decreds wrote: »

We've been completely brainwashed/programmed by the messages pumped out by the media.

perhapse the anti-restrictions crowd have been brain washed by the alternative media they read, but the rest of the population certainly haven't been brainwashed by the real media.

UDAWINNER

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

The thing is for a lot of people it's not about protecting themselves , it's about protecting others who are more vulnerable. I'd like to visit my parents and the only thing that's stopping me is the chance that I might infect them unknowingly not any government restrictions.
Also the long term effects are something I've seen first hand and something I'd be keen to avoid

this 1000%

Raisins

decreds wrote: »

Talk about hyperbolic.



There is zero proof that 1000's of grand parents have died from the "disease".


Aul grand dad had heart disease and diabetes for years and just had a heart attack but died after being diagnosed with "Covid19".



Give me a break

You can be absolutely sure that guy crossed the road to avoid you. No wonder he does it every day.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Silentcorner wrote: »

And you are entitled to stay under your bed as well...nothing stopping you!

As I said , I'm not afraid of Covid and I have met up with people I've done it sensibly .
My point is that I'd like to do what I can to make sure a sense of normality can return for everyone not just me .
If someones normality is a house party or a nightclub , great , it was mine once as well . However I'd rather sacrifice a few more weeks and see everyones normality come back.
From the looks of some responses in this thread , the idea of looking out for neighbours and vulnerable people is one that not everyone shares.

Silentcorner

Boggles wrote: »

Who did that?

1000's of dead Grand Parents = fine

Not hugging them = I'll never get over it.

I have said before, I find the treatment of the over 70s to be particularly cruel, they were told not to leave their homes for three months back in Mar last year, they have not been allowed household visits since Dec....

Even though it doesn't affect me personally, it is the policy that has really gotten to me the most, not just because of the inhumanity of it, it's the one thing Grand parents love more than anything...but the degree of hysteria that got us there is frightening....thankfully there are normal countries out there that didn't take this route and can expose the barbarity of it to those willing to see!

Backstreet Moyes

They have lost the people

We would have less cases in the next few weeks if they went to level 3 instead of that interview

Nearly everyone I know is done with the restrictions

What a country

Boggles

Silentcorner wrote: »

thankfully there are normal countries out there that didn't take this route and can expose the barbarity of it to those willing to see!

Like Sweden, who told their over 70's to cocoon for 8 months and the advice is still for them to stay away from everyone.

You must be utterly sick at their approach?

Silentcorner

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

As I said , I'm not afraid of Covid and I have met up with people I've done it sensibly .
My point is that I'd like to do what I can to make sure a sense of normality can return for everyone not just me .
If someones normality is a house party or a nightclub , great , it was mine once as well . However I'd rather sacrifice a few more weeks and see everyones normality come back.
From the looks of some responses in this thread , the idea of looking out for neighbours and vulnerable people is one that not everyone shares.

Everyone's normality is not coming back...it is precisely what I see in my parents neighbourhood that has influenced me, there are widows in that neighbourhood who live on their own, rarely see their grand kids and will never be the same again, their normality is gone...if they'd caught Covid chances are they'd be fine!!!

Even if we get some freedom in the summer, what do you think is going to happen next winter?

Graham

Silentcorner wrote: »

there are normal countries out there that didn't take this route and can expose the barbarity of it to those willing to see!

You get that the hyperbole does nothing at all to further any point you're trying to make.

They are entertaining though. We should do a top #50 of the best ones.

C.O.Y.B.I.B

Silentcorner wrote: »

Everyone's normality is not coming back...it is precisely what I see in my parents neighbourhood that has influenced me, there are widows in that neighbourhood who live on their own, rarely see their grand kids and will never be the same again, their normality is gone...if they'd caught Covid chances are they'd be fine!!!

Even if we get some freedom in the summer, what do you think is going to happen next winter?

My hope is that in the next 6-9 weeks to get to where we were in July of last year and maintain that . The hope being that ,coupled with vaccines, should see us in a good place for next Winter . Naiive possibly , but I see that as our way to some semblance of normal.for everyone.

Silentcorner

C.O.Y.B.I.B wrote: »

My hope is that in the next 6-9 weeks to get to where we were in July of last year and maintain that . The hope being that ,coupled with vaccines, should see us in a good place for next Winter . Naiive possibly , but I see that as our way to some semblance of normal.for everyone.

Niiave? We will be in heavy restrictions next Winter, there will be new variants...I'd bet my house on it, we will be in level 2 or 3 all Summer, unless the people mobilize.

SnuggyBear

Silentcorner wrote: »

I've spotted that as well.

People driving cars on their own wearing a mask.

Pump enough fear into people and watch them dance!

I've seen people cycle with masks. Someone in their garden with a mask on doing a bit of gardening. Such a sad world we live in now.

Graham

Silentcorner wrote: »

Niiave? We will be in heavy restrictions next Winter, there will be new variants.

Just pure scaremongering,

pm1977x

Silentcorner wrote: »

Stay at home Save Lives

It is simple and powerful, repeated everywhere, pushed everywhere...

Now people think it is dangerous for Grand parents to hug their grand kids...I hope those of you who have succumb to hysteria will one day hang your heads in shame, denying Grand parents a hug from their grand kids is something I'll never get over, that took a lot of hysteria to get us there!!!

Irony overload, talk about hysteria!