Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Kermit.de.frog

Parachutes wrote: »

The fact we've tolerated this nonsense for so long just goes to show the power of fear and propaganda.

How many deaths were announced today?

Gael23

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Its going to get to a stage where the garda have to choose between the people or the government. This is going to get nasty.

What do you mean?

RobitTV

I'm only keeping positive because I'll be moving abroad this July until Christmas. No point returning home for winter when the government will only push the public through another set of tough restrictions again.

Vaccine or no vaccine. These restrictions will make a comeback after the summer.

conor05

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Oh grow up FGS. Give it another week lol.

He’s not wrong. People are completely sick of it

Lundstram

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How many deaths were announced today?

47 died while they had Covid19 was it?

About 80 more died via other causes.

What's your point?

ypres5

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I have been pretty accurate throughout about how this was going to roll unfortunately. I'm right now. And I'll be right in 12 weeks time when restrictions will still apply. Probably level 4.

There is no reason or logic in just ignoring reality.

We need to get our case figures down to low double digits. We are high triple digits. Long story short the country can not open in this situation.

what's the point in getting the cases low when we're vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable? it makes jack **** difference once they're taken care of so why are we playing the numbers game? level 4 in 12 weeks now i know you're taking the proverbial

Kermit.de.frog

Graham wrote: »

:rolleyes:

because you think anyone on PUP will be unemployed forever or something else?

Careful now. I'm worried you may be deploying too much logic and common sense.

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

what's the point in getting the cases low when we're vaccinating the elderly and vulnerable? it makes jack **** difference once they're taken care of so why are we playing the numbers game? level 4 in 12 weeks now i know you're taking the proverbial

for one, we don't want a few million human Petri dishes waddling around the country incubating new variants.

Kinda makes sense if you think about it.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Knock yourself out
https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/02/vitamin-d-not-effective-moderate-severe-covid-study-finds
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2775003
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2776736

That's an interesting trifecta of articles about the very same study. A study that the authors admitted was underpowered. A study that predates the causal link study.

Consider me bowled the **** over.

dublinbando

I've noticed more and more people putting the two fingers up and just ignoring the rules, as they should, it's ****ing ridiculous at this stage

ypres5

Graham wrote: »

:rolleyes:

because you think anyone on PUP will be unemployed forever or something else?

why do you feel the need to twist people's posts to make it seem as if they're saying something ridiculous when it's fairly clear what their point is? it's a recurring trick of yours on here i notice. I doubt he meant that they'll never work ever again just that their employment opportunities will be severely hampered for years after lockdown due to economic fallout but i reckon you already knew that

Bigfatmichael

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How many deaths were announced today?

47 and median age is 81 and of course they didn't mention if the person had an underlying condition or a person was in thei final weeks and caught Covid in hospital.

We need to do more to protect the elderly and open backup.

Graham

dublinbando wrote: »

I've noticed more and more people putting the two fingers up and just ignoring the rules, as they should, it's ****ing ridiculous at this stage

No doubt they'll be the first to whine if restrictions are in place longer as a result.

Silentcorner

Deleted User wrote: »

When is South Africa’s annual flu flu season? June to September
What happened there this summer? Summer peak resulted in nearly twice as many deaths.

It’s not hard to find this stuff out

Did I not say there were other variables? There will be outliers everywhere for different reasons, we don't have to wet our pants every time a country at the other side of the world has a different experience to us.

We don't need to look anywhere else, we have had 12 months of this....sure, it's savy to remain cautious, but lockdown level 5 for another 9 weeks is psychotic....jesus, surely even the most enthusiastic government supports can spot that at this stage?

We really are pathetically weak in every department in Government.

Level 3 would be too restrictive from Mid March...the people have more than they should ever have done for what?

Parachutes

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

How many deaths were announced today?

The deaths! the deaths! the deaths! give me a ****ing break. The doom porn won't shtick anymore. Let's just ruin the lives of millions of healthy people because a virus with a 99.97% survival rate is unfortunately killing vulnerable people in nursing homes who are at the end of their lives.

The question you have to ask yourself, is lockdown really worth this astronomical cost? This nonsense needs to end now. The vulnerable should shield. The rest of us have a job to do, this country will need major surgery. We have to start now!

Silentcorner

Graham wrote: »

No doubt they'll be the first to whine if restrictions are in place longer as a result.

This is like abuse.

0gac3yjefb5sv7

RobitTV wrote: »

I'm only keeping positive because I'll be moving abroad this July until Christmas. No point returning home for winter when the government will only push the public through another set of tough restrictions again.

Vaccine or no vaccine. These restrictions will make a comeback after the summer.

How would there be restrictions when most of the population have the vaccine?!

ypres5

Graham wrote: »

for one, we don't want a few million human Petri dishes waddling around the country incubating new variants.

Kinda makes sense if you think about it.

the few million petri dishes doesnt seem to be a concern in the uk or israel. there's talks of international travel being established by the summer for their citizens unless you know something they don't

Spanish Eyes

Anyone 30 or over on here? No kids, have parents, have loved ones, just wondered.

Seems to me that it is LC students who are bored and of course totally immature about all this. But the Shinners will sort it all out. In fairness they are in tune with the current lockdown rules.

Housing for those who won't do it for themselves is Harry Potter's dream. AKA Eoin OB. Covid has softened his cough.

RobitTV

MattS1 wrote: »

How would there be restrictions when most of the population have the vaccine?!

Leo and the government said there could be a 'fourth wave' this winter. Not my words.

They said if that occurs they will have to reintroduce restrictions in some form.

ypres5

MattS1 wrote: »

How would there be restrictions when most of the population have the vaccine?!

leo perked up the country a couple of weeks ago telling us there's the possibility of lockdown in winter 21 due to a 4th wave ive seen no one else in europe mention along with the news of continuing restrictions into 2022.

Silentcorner

ypres5 wrote: »

why do you feel the need to twist people's posts to make it seem as if they're saying something ridiculous when it's fairly clear what their point is? it's a recurring trick of yours on here i notice. I doubt he meant that they'll never work ever again just that their employment opportunities will be severely hampered for years after lockdown due to economic fallout but i reckon you already knew that

You are not dealing with a reasoned person there.

They can't see the 20% or so of this country who are out of pocket to the tune of tens of thousands of Euro, or the impact that will have on their future, even if they are lucky enough to get their jobs back....they can't see it because their media doesn't show them...if the media don't cover it, it ain't important in that type of mindset.

They can talk all day long about mutations though...experts on that!!!

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

the few million petri dishes doesnt seem to be a concern in the uk or israel. there's talks of international travel being established by the summer for their citizens unless you know something they don't

You mean countries where there are still restrictions and strong progress is being made with vaccination programs.

I don't see the UK removing restrictions this week, do you?

Lundstram

Bigfatmichael wrote: »

47 and median age is 81 and of course they didn't mention if the person had an underlying condition or a person was in thei final weeks and caught Covid in hospital.

We need to do more to protect the elderly and open backup.

They're doing this sneaky thing now where if there's a day where a person dies under the age of 50 they announce age ranges. Think they had age ranges of 47-105 the other day.

It's a very clever tactic. One person under 50 dies while the rest are over 80.

It's designed to have people thnking there's lots of younger people dying with it when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.

hamburgham

Bigfatmichael wrote: »

47 and median age is 81 and of course they didn't mention if the person had an underlying condition or a person was in thei final weeks and caught Covid in hospital.

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HOW are they still getting away with this?

hynesie08

Graham wrote: »

You mean countries where there are still restrictions and strong progress is being made with vaccination programs.

I don't see the UK removing restrictions this week, do you?

In fact, the part of the UK attached to us just extended restrictions.......... Shocked face.jpeg

ypres5

Graham wrote: »

You mean countries where there are still restrictions and strong progress is being made with vaccination programs.

I don't see the UK removing restrictions this week, do you?

go back and read my post, did i ever say that they were. I said in the SUMMER there is talk of them reintroducing international travel. please don't put words in my mouth

SnuggyBear

Graham wrote: »

for one, we don't want a few million human Petri dishes waddling around the country incubating new variants.

Kinda makes sense if you think about it.

Nice hyperbole

Oymyakon

Are the people in this thread who are “no big deal if you’re under 80”ing COVID already forgetting how screwed our hospitals were not even a month ago?

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

go back and read my post, did i ever say that they were. I said in the SUMMER there is talk of them reintroducing international travel. please don't put words in my mouth

An expected benefit of being much further along in their vaccination programs.