Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VIII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Silentcorner

Oymyakon wrote: »

Are the people in this thread who are “no big deal if you’re under 80”ing COVID already forgetting how screwed our hospitals were not even a month ago?

Our hospitals are screwed up every year...this year is was a bit better.

Did you not notice how little our hospitals were stretched for the other 10 months of the year?

SnuggyBear

Oymyakon wrote: »

Are the people in this thread who are “no big deal if you’re under 80”ing COVID already forgetting how screwed our hospitals were not even a month ago?

Are you forgetting how screwed they are every January?

ypres5

Graham wrote: »

An expected benefit of being much further along in their vaccination programs.

what about the few million petri dishes you dreamt up? do you know something they don't ? please share

Oymyakon

Silentcorner wrote: »

Our hospitals are screwed up every year...this year is was a bit better.

Did you not notice how little our hospitals were stretched for the other 10 months of the year?

Yeah but we gave the virus an inch at Christmas time and we were suddenly in ICU surge capacity territory, would be totally irresponsible to let this rip through the younger population

Bigfatmichael

Oymyakon wrote: »

Are the people in this thread who are “no big deal if you’re under 80”ing COVID already forgetting how screwed our hospitals were not even a month ago?

771 currently in hospital and 153 in ICU out of a population of 4,900,000.

Think about that.

People get sick, people get cancer, people get Covid.

The government need to protect the elderly with underlying conditions.

Its as simple as that and let the rest of us get on with it.

I hope if something like this happens in the future we have one central facility to look after outbreaks.

Silentcorner

Oymyakon wrote: »

Yeah but we gave the virus an inch at Christmas time and we were suddenly in ICU surge capacity territory, would be totally irresponsible to let this rip through the younger population

Look, you probably mean well, I understand why you think the way you do...I just completely disagree with you.

growleaves

Oymyakon wrote: »

Are the people in this thread who are “no big deal if you’re under 80”ing COVID already forgetting how screwed our hospitals were not even a month ago?

Respiratory illness and deaths peak in mid-January every year.

We're over the annual mid-January peak but expected to spend most of the year, bar mid-summer, in 'severe lockdown'.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

That's an interesting trifecta of articles about the very same study. A study that the authors admitted was underpowered. A study that predates the causal link study.

Consider me bowled the **** over.

Ya, you didn’t read them so. One is an report on a paper, another is the paper itself and the third is an article discussing the evidence in general, Fron the Journal of the American Medical Association too, not nutritionists weekly
There are articles suggesting an effect too but no conclusive trials that I can find. It is far from settled science, but as I said, vitamin d in the diets of people who live in low sun regions is important for a myriad of reasons.

wakka12

Is there any country on earth facing the prospect of such severe lockdown until Summer? Any at all?
I know it's been exaggerated a bit on here the last few months about how much more stringent our restrictions here were compared to the world and it was not entirely true but as it looks now Ireland seems like it will be way out on it's own with these type of limitations on people's lives by early summer.

Parachutes

growleaves wrote: »

Respiratory illness and deaths peak in mid-January every year.

We're over the annual mid-January peak but expected to spend most of the year, bar mid-summer, in 'severe lockdown'.

There's no flu or pneumonia. Only covid. So glad we managed to wipe these pathogens off the face of the earth!

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

what about the few million petri dishes you dreamt up? do you know something they don't ? please share

I'm not sure what you're asking ypres5, which part confuses you?

normanoffside

I’ve been avoiding the news and watching YouTube videos from my 1 bed Appartment today.
I’m 3 weeks back in the country and from Reading the last few hours of posts I think I’ll **** off back to lanzarote for the next 3 months again. Fcuk this, better find a good Dentist in the Canary Islands.

Graham

growleaves wrote: »

Respiratory illness and deaths peak in mid-January every year.

It was probably sensible not to throw hundred of Covid patient into the mix then.

Luckily a lot of the usual flu spread was also limited by the restrictions.

kittensmittens

Parachutes wrote: »

There's no flu or pneumonia. Only covid. So glad we managed to wipe these pathogens off the face of the earth!

And no annual "Trolley Crisis".....pooof, gone like magic

Lundstram

Lundstram wrote: »

They're doing this sneaky thing now where if there's a day where a person dies under the age of 50 they announce age ranges. Think they had age ranges of 47-105 the other day.

It's a very clever tactic. One person under 50 dies while the rest are over 80.

It's designed to have people thnking there's lots of younger people dying with it when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.

The data is available if you want to check it out

Graham

Lundstram wrote: »

It's designed to have people thnking there's lots of younger people dying with it when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.

Needs more tinfoil hat.

Parachutes

Graham wrote: »

Luckily a lot of the usual flu spread was also limited by the restrictions.

Yeah we were wearing stupid cloth masks made in China, squirting hand gel and doing social distancing when it suited us so I guess there was not one case of flu in the whole country.... but covid is everywhere.

Would ya ever wake up.

Skipduke

Off topic but who here is single, living with their parents and wasting the sexiest years of their life away... ��

ypres5

Graham wrote: »

I'm not sure what you're asking ypres5, which part confuses you?

third time's the charm what are the few million petri dishes that have you worried and why does it only apply to Ireland? is this going to be a repeat of the construction workers thing?

PTH2009

How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, and how many times must the cannonballs fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many years must a mountain exist
Before it is washed to the sea?
And how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
And how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, and how many deaths will it take 'til he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

retro:electro

Lundstram wrote: »

They're doing this sneaky thing now where if there's a day where a person dies under the age of 50 they announce age ranges. Think they had age ranges of 47-105 the other day.

It's a very clever tactic. One person under 50 dies while the rest are over 80.

It's designed to have people thnking there's lots of younger people dying with it when in fact it couldn't be further from the truth.

I noticed that the day the 18 year old died. I thought it was strange to add the age since they never do it with any other age range. Usually they’ll just announce the deaths but on the days when someone is under 50 they will make sure to casually assert the age range. It’s quite manipulative.

growleaves

growleaves wrote: »

Respiratory illness and deaths peak in mid-January every year.

We're over the annual mid-January peak but expected to spend most of the year, bar mid-summer, in 'severe lockdown'.

Some peak this year. Especially with no flu

https://mobile.twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1360180696912961537

Lundstram

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The data is available if you want to check it out

I do.

Problem is the vast majority don’t go further than the info their given in the press conference.

NPHET also know this.

Graham

ypres5 wrote: »

third time's the charm what are the few million petri dishes that have you worried and why does it only apply to Ireland? is this going to be a repeat of the construction workers thing?

I've still no idea what you're asking and what I've suggested that only applies to Ireland.

The petri-dishes comment refers to the daft idea we can just remove restrictions without consequence as one of the obvious consequences would be much much higher numbers of infections which means much much hire chances of new mutations/variants.

That applies to most countries, certainly not Ireland specific.

Now if you're alluding to the fact this isn't a consideration for BoJo, probably better to wait and see what the UK actually announce before proclaiming enthusiastically that they're doing it better.

ypres5

retro:electro wrote: »

I noticed that the day the 18 year old died. I thought it was strange to add the age since they never do it with any other age range. Usually they’ll just announce the deaths but on the days when someone is under 40 they will make sure to casually assert the age range. It’s quite manipulative.

like when tubridy had that man's widow on talking about her loss in such a show of journalistic moral bankruptcy it'd make the sun look like the washington post by comparison

Bigfatmichael

PTH2009 wrote: »

How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, and how many times must the cannonballs fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many years must a mountain exist
Before it is washed to the sea?
And how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
And how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, and how many deaths will it take 'til he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

Yesterday
All my troubles seemed so far away
Now it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Suddenly
I'm not half the man I used to be
There's a shadow hangin' over me
Oh, yesterday came suddenly
Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday
Yesterday
Love was such an easy game to play
Now I need a place to hide away
Oh, I believe in yesterday
Why she had to go, I don't know, she wouldn't say
I said something wrong, now I long for yesterday

hynesie08

PTH2009 wrote: »

How many roads must a man walk down
Before you call him a man?
How many seas must a white dove sail
Before she sleeps in the sand?
Yes, and how many times must the cannonballs fly
Before they're forever banned?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many years must a mountain exist
Before it is washed to the sea?
And how many years can some people exist
Before they're allowed to be free?
Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head
And pretend that he just doesn't see?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind
Yes, and how many times must a man look up
Before he can see the sky?
And how many ears must one man have
Before he can hear people cry?
Yes, and how many deaths will it take 'til he knows
That too many people have died?
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind
The answer is blowin' in the wind

Please for the love of christ tell me you are not comparing covid to the plight of black slaves in civil war America?

MOR316

Lundstram wrote: »

I do.

Problem is the vast majority don’t go further than the info their given in the press conference.

NPHET also know this.

That's always the way though.

People are just accepting of anything the TV or newspapers tell them, regardless of whether it's the truth or not. Not just about Covid, everything!

copeyhagen

Can't sleep. Lying there ****ing eyes wide open.
Never felt trapped in my life like this.
Have two weeks annual leave to use up now next month... Can't even do anything with it.

Can't even escape with the wife and kids to my parents place in Spain. This isn't living...

I wonder is this their plan
Announce 9 weeks on a Thursday casually
Public go insane

Announce 6 weeks next Tuesday
Public say "thank god, 9 weeks was bad"
And that's that..no protests

They have done that lots in the past

RobitTV

Me tonight...