What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

briany

notobtuse wrote: »

Fraud was committed in November to the benefit of Biden

Would you stop. Trump's team alleged this, but apparently Major Biden ate all that explosive smoking-gun evidence before it could be brought to court.

notobtuse

notobtuse wrote: »

No I'm not asking you to read through hundreds of articles to prove that they are factual. Pick two or three. Posters seem to be saying none of their articles can be trusted. I'm saying otherwise. Do they get things wrong at times... yes. The same as everyone. Are they more guilty over others... I haven't seen that in the articles I've read.

And I have been consistent in what I have been saying.

I already did that. In my very first post to you. I posted a link to many of their false claims.

astrofool

notobtuse wrote: »

The pregnancy comment is phrase I seen used numerous times in politics discussions here in the US. Maybe I should have said something like if you rob 2 people or 10 people your still a robber. You can't say one person is not a robber because he robbed 8 times less than someone else.

I would posit that there is a difference between a binary option and not a binary option and that implying someone robbing 2 people is the same as someone robbing 10 (or 16.6) people is a pretty stupid comment to make and speaks to the awfulness of trump that the main tactic is to unsuccessfully try and reduce others to his awful level.

trump was an awful president, he wasn't just an awful president, he was probably worse than 44 other presidents, that doesn't make him as awful as the 22nd worst president, it makes him far far worse because it's not a binary option.

It is funny watching trumpeters still talk about the election when the facts are in court they had to admit no fraud occurred over and over again, they are treating their supporters as really dumb idiots who'll believe anything.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You've claimed the election wasn't fair, then you claimed to offer proof but that was far from credible.... It's pretty apparent that you've built your own bubble...

This appears to be a very common trait of our trump supporters

briany

Main thing that Trump conspiracists have to fall back on is 'stacks' of sworn affidavits saying that funny business went on during the election. The problem is that you could also get a stack of sworn affidavits from people alleging they encountered a 7+ foot tall hominid in the woods while hunting. Keep in mind, however, that despite all the people who would swear up and down that they saw something in the woods, none of this forms a body of evidence that leads us to conclude that Bigfoot is real.

But there is money to be made from the idea of Bigfoot. Crappy Discovery Channel shows (god that channel went down the sh*tter), and merchandise etc. and there is lots of money to be made off of the current Trump grift.

everlast75

extra gravy wrote: »

I wouldn't waste my time reading anything you link to, you're clearly still deluded.

Sadly, he's not alone

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1379280200366755840?s=19

everlast75

What's more sad about this?

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1379175013362860042?s=19

1) that he called for a boycott on coke and is still drinking it?
2) that he did such a sh1tty job of trying to hide it?
3) that he has a set up as if he was still president

Quin_Dub

everlast75 wrote: »

What's more sad about this?

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1379175013362860042?s=19

1) that he called for a boycott on coke and is still drinking it?
2) that he did such a sh1tty job of trying to hide it?
3) that he has a set up as if he was still president

I saw another article talking about some of the other things visible in that photo.

His glasses can be seen on the desk , the fact that him needs them for reading is something he's terribly embarrassed about apparently.

There's also a bronze statue of Trump on the table to the left behind Miller - Which is just weird.

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

What's more sad about this?

https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1379175013362860042?s=19

1) that he called for a boycott on coke and is still drinking it?
2) that he did such a sh1tty job of trying to hide it?
3) that he has a set up as if he was still president

what is that ugly plaque thing on his desk?

Quin_Dub

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

what is that ugly plaque thing on his desk?

Some "gift" or other from the CBPA - but its presence front and centre is part of his latest "branding" efforts.

If you notice , his new website doesn't use his name - It's 45Office.com and not TrumpXYZ.com etc.

He also keeps referring to himself as "Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States" which whilst technically accurate, is not how any other President refers to themselves - Obama doesn't call himself "44th President" etc.

The benefits are twofold - The name "Trump" is toxic right now, so for the 1st time in his life he's avoiding using his name.

Also - By using the "45" moniker he avoids ever having to use the term that every other President uses to describe themselves, namely "FORMER".

So all his gullible marks now have a way to call him "President" without anyone ever having to make reference to the fact that his lost.

Penn

I'm just amazed the photo of Mount Rushmore on the wall doesn't have his face photoshopped on it.

extra gravy

Penn wrote: »

I'm just amazed the photo of Mount Rushmore on the wall doesn't have his face photoshopped on it.

Ha was just about to post this

Tell me how

Penn wrote: »

I'm just amazed the photo of Mount Rushmore on the wall doesn't have his face photoshopped on it.

extra gravy wrote: »

Ha was just about to post this

That's exactly what I thought when I saw the picture.

accensi0n

Sweet pog collection.

everlast75

This explains the obsequious behaviour

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1379582226002714630?s=19

Smee_Again

everlast75 wrote: »

This explains the obsequious behaviour

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1379582226002714630?s=19

The best people.

Leroy42

everlast75 wrote: »

This explains the obsequious behaviour

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1379582226002714630?s=19

Not sure how much credit to give to that story.

If Gaetz did look for a pardon why would Trump not give it to him? Gaetz had been, and certainly would remain, a staunch defender of Trump and the MAGA movement and be an advocate in any plans to reelection in 2024 or even just to continue to run the ridiculous Voting Fraud narrative repeatedly in the media.

I can only assume that the mess he is in is too much even for Trump to get involved in. So if the story is true then things are looking decidedly dodgy for Gaetz.

ohnonotgmail

Leroy42 wrote: »

Not sure how much credit to give to that story.

If Gaetz did look for a pardon why would Trump not give it to him? Gaetz had been, and certainly would remain, a staunch defender of Trump and the MAGA movement and be an advocate in any plans to reelection in 2024 or even just to continue to run the ridiculous Voting Fraud narrative repeatedly in the media.

I can only assume that the mess he is in is too much even for Trump to get involved in. So if the story is true then things are looking decidedly dodgy for Gaetz.

Or maybe trump was told that blanket pre-emptive pardons won't holder water.

What.Now

Leroy42 wrote: »

Not sure how much credit to give to that story.

If Gaetz did look for a pardon why would Trump not give it to him? Gaetz had been, and certainly would remain, a staunch defender of Trump and the MAGA movement and be an advocate in any plans to reelection in 2024 or even just to continue to run the ridiculous Voting Fraud narrative repeatedly in the media.

I can only assume that the mess he is in is too much even for Trump to get involved in. So if the story is true then things are looking decidedly dodgy for Gaetz.

Trump may have been asking for more money than Gaetz could afford. €25M

notobtuse

everlast75 wrote: »

This explains the obsequious behaviour

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1379582226002714630?s=19

And I understand The New York Times might also be working on a story involving Gaetz clubbing baby seals with Idi Amin. Seems the NYT might have derived this breaking news from unidentified and anonymous sources, as is custom with most of their sources when writing hit pieces on republicans. :pac:

everlast75

notobtuse wrote: »

And I understand The New York Times might also be working on a story involving Gaetz clubbing baby seals with Idi Amin. Seems the NYT might have derived this breaking news from unidentified and anonymous sources, as is custom with most of their sources when writing hit pieces on republicans. :pac:

And when it comes out that this is all true, you'll shrug your shoulders and equivocate/excuse or distance or disappear from boards for a bit until some other disgrace comes along.

I've had 4 years plus of Trumpites' behaviour. At this stage it's utterly predictable.

notobtuse

everlast75 wrote: »

And when it comes out that this is all true, you'll shrug your shoulders and equivocate/excuse or distance or disappear from boards for a bit until some other disgrace comes along.

I've had 4 years plus of Trumpites' behaviour. At this stage it's utterly predictable.

Nah, stopped posting because I was tired of the nonsense, hatred, and little minds working overtime to get me banned because they didn't like what I had to say. I make a post or two and they're most all back, like ticks on a dog. Wanted to see if Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was only a temporary thing, but sadly I fear it might be incurable and maybe even terminal.

But regarding Gaetz...



But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

everlast75

notobtuse wrote: »

Nah, stopped posting because I was tired of the nonsense, hatred, and little minds working overtime to get me banned because they didn't like what I had to say. I make a post or two and they're most all back, like ticks on a dog. Wanted to see if Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was only a temporary thing, but sadly I fear it might be incurable and maybe even terminal.

But regarding Gaetz...



But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

You believe the guy who has lied tens of thousands of times over the NYT?

Right so. No discussion can be had with you. We live in different realities.

Smee_Again

notobtuse wrote: »

But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

We don’t believe Trump because he’s an established liar who lies a lot. About everything. All the time.

Leroy42

notobtuse wrote: »

Nah, stopped posting because I was tired of the nonsense, hatred, and little minds working overtime to get me banned because they didn't like what I had to say. I make a post or two and they're most all back, like ticks on a dog. Wanted to see if Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was only a temporary thing, but sadly I fear it might be incurable and maybe even terminal.

But regarding Gaetz...



But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

Haha, I remember a time when Trump was adamant that he never paid any money to Stormy. The fact that he says it means nothing. The guy is a total an compulsive liar. He lies about easily proven facts (crowd size, size of EC win) why would you even think he wouldn't lie about something like this?

notobtuse

everlast75 wrote: »

You believe the guy who has lied tens of thousands of times over the NYT?

Right so. No discussion can be had with you. We live in different realities.

When it comes to the NYT reporting on Trump... Yeah, mostly so.

Sounds good, but unfortunately somehow I think I'll be hearing from you the next time I say something you don't like, making more rid........ Oh, why bother.

Tell me how

notobtuse wrote: »

Nah, stopped posting because I was tired of the nonsense, hatred, and little minds working overtime to get me banned because they didn't like what I had to say. I make a post or two and they're most all back, like ticks on a dog. Wanted to see if Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was only a temporary thing, but sadly I fear it might be incurable and maybe even terminal.

But regarding Gaetz...



But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

Why indeed.

Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

That is 20.94 lies every day of his Presidency. Every. Single. Day.

ohnonotgmail

notobtuse wrote: »

Nah, stopped posting because I was tired of the nonsense, hatred, and little minds working overtime to get me banned because they didn't like what I had to say. I make a post or two and they're most all back, like ticks on a dog. Wanted to see if Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) was only a temporary thing, but sadly I fear it might be incurable and maybe even terminal.

The only thing that can get you banned is your own behaviour.

notobtuse wrote: »

But regarding Gaetz...



But why believe the former President when there are anonymous sketchy sources with unreliable information to be believed... right?

yeah why would somebody not believe a man with 10s of thousands of documented lies.

Leroy42

notobtuse wrote: »

When it comes to the NYT reporting on Trump... Yeah, mostly so.

Sounds good, but unfortunately somehow I think I'll be hearing from you the next time I say something you don't like, making more rid........ Oh, why bother.

But NYT has been proven to be right on many many occasions regarding stories about Trump.

And Trump has been shown to be a serial and compulsive liar.

So on the one hand you have, on your view, a media organisation that sometimes gets things wrong. On the other, you have Trump that is known to be a total liar.

And you wonder why people query your posts when you take the side of the serial liar before knowing any real information?

notobtuse

Leroy42 wrote: »

Haha, I remember a time when Trump was adamant that he never paid any money to Stormy. The fact that he says it means nothing. The guy is a total an compulsive liar. He lies about easily proven facts (crowd size, size of EC win) why would you even think he wouldn't lie about something like this?

Seems to me Biden has now taken up the compulsive liar mantle. Or should we just chalk it up to dementia?