What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869028#Comment_121869028

Given the largest resistance to "the migrant crisis" tend to come from flyover states with single digit ethnic diversities or immigration, let's acknowledge a large part of this performative howling is a façade for blatant xenophobia.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869038#Comment_121869038

Of course.

Many undocumented immigrants are like the guy in the story - arrived by plane, visa expired, trying to get that resolved while obeying the law.

And to think someone that claimed to be from California thought a wall would work. Hi-freaking-larious, never spent any time in the desert southwest with its massive canyons, spring floods, earthquakes (remember, California?) I remember photos of ladders and boxes piled up against that wall from the Mexico side, like the coyotes are stupid.

If indeed they were from Ca probably one of the right-wingitty locales like the center of the state/Orange County/...

Plus the one attempt at the wall that TFG built (and his buddy Bannon swindled people with), messed with all sorts of animal migration and local ecology.

It's not a wall that deters immigration. That bill the Congress squished for TFG would've helped.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868651#Comment_121868651

It’s not a federal docket. He wouldn’t have any control over it.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121869057#Comment_121869057

Many of the people trying to get to the United States have already hiked hundreds of miles through treacherous terrain. They will not in ANY CONCEIVABLE WAY be deterred by a wall, and the border will be exactly as porous. Trump must know deep down that the true value of the wall is not in its practicality but in its symbolism.

As ever in reactionary politics, there's a lot of crowing about a particular problem, but no pragmatism on what issues the 'fix' will cause. In the case of illegal immigrants being booted out, the agriculture and construction industries will take a massive hit, forcing them to raise their prices as they have to pay at least minimum wage to the natives. In fact, it would be a good study in how the finger of the reactionaries never stops pointing, as it will go from illegals taking jobs to the lazy entitled slobs of the lower classes not wanting to work long hours for pennies on the dollar and pretty much without missing a beat.

CrazyEric

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121870238#Comment_121870238

https://www.newsweek.com/republican-bill-lunch-breaks-kentucky-1875088

They are preparing the groundwork for that eventuality. If you cannot get cheap illegal labour then reduce the cost of legal labour.

Debub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121868580#Comment_121868580

https://youtu.be/dWgb8gVPrks?si=iiu4-mfh1FIqw2f1

some of it described here...

LambshankRedemption

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121867196#Comment_121867196

I'm about to start James Comey's book "A Higher Loyalty". I will report back. The made-for-TV movie the Comey Rule was based on it, and that mentions the golden showers many times.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/VaughnHillyard/status/1766262804858732972?s=20

Trump doesn't want to bee a dictator, huh?

He enjoyed the UFC tonight.

everlast75

Hope she sues this rapist again

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1766614743404388853?s=20

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873556#Comment_121873556

Makes sense Orbán would go have a powwow with Trump, given his popularity back home has had a wobble. With any luck the domestic controversies will see Orbán fleeing to Moscow.

Does, as always, simply underline how Trump's mindset work and what he sees as "leadership". A king, basically and someone who bosses or controls others.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873561#Comment_121873561

That's not gonna help his appeal...

What can a judge do though?

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873660#Comment_121873660

I don't know about the US, but an injunction might be an option.

Failure to abide by one is contempt of court see Mr Burke for reference)

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873748#Comment_121873748

In the US, they wouldn't give anyone as many opportunities to avoid incarceration due to disregarding contempt charges as Ireland has given Burke.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873593#Comment_121873593

May be seeing much of this in the coming months. Liz Truss is another one who appears to be aligning herself with Trump. Depending on how Trump polls from now to November, we could expect him to become surrounded by a motley crew of wannabe strongmen, provocateurs, and those who have been roundly rejected by Liberal Democracy.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873785#Comment_121873785

At least Orbán has remained leader of his country through successive elections (insert a metric tonne of caveats here WRT Hungarian democratic backsliding), and curries popularity outside the urban centres; Liz Truss is a venal, incompetent moron whose tenure at the helm nearly collapsed an economy in record time - then had the gall to claim the Bank of England was Leftist for simply arresting her bullshít.

She'll make some bank from the conservative circuit in the US by dint of her nominal time as PM, and glomming onto Big Woke to cover her failures, but she's a novelty, and one who'll find doors closed quick enough when they cop to how irrelevant she is back home. The Tories are about to wiped out at the ballot and (you'd hope) the extreme wing there will get turfed out during the backroom massacre.

But to the rest, this is Trump.v2 writ large really: the grown ups are gone, those thinking they'd be a moderate influence on Trump long given up hope it's even possible. Any Trump Admin will be filled with whatever populist, extremist detritus is left willing to publicly align with him; the MAGA Ultras and ideologues basically, twice as potentially problematic as (say) John Bolton ever was. You can be damn sure there'll be no news cycles trying to spot when Trump became "presidential", nobody's gonna fall for that twice.

Rawr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873832#Comment_121873832

Surprised that someone who’s tenure as PM that was outlived by a vegetable, could think that they get pretty much anywhere politically after such a spectacular and public failure in office. Although I guess we live in this wierd post-truth world where far-right wingers are permitted to keep trying, even after performing in a such a way that most other politicians would be inclined/forced to feck off. Case in point; apparently George Santos is trying for congress again (!). You also have the occasional rumor that Boris is trying to get back to being PM again. Arguably one of the worst PMs in British history, and with the way the right wing has been I wouldn’t dismiss the possibility of some Tories wanting that nonsense back.

I guess Liz is hoping to ride the populism wave until she gets another shot of her own. After all, absolute and total failure in office isn’t a barrier to politicians in her wing of politics anymore.

I’d agree about the comments on a potential second Trump White House cabinet. Any hope of “Grown ups” would be gone. It would be packed with various MTGs, Gaatz’s, and Roger Stones of the world. Nothing useful would get done beyond screaming out Trump’s proclamations. Even worse if the “Project 2025” threats are carried out. I’m convinced that the only reason the Unites States continued to function at all between 2017 and 2021 was thanks to career servants keeping the engines of state ticking over. While Trump acted as Head of State, the US was essentially headless and was running on autopilot. Things kept working thanks in no small part to the hard work of Federal and State employees.

briany

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZC0UqTUp0

Michael Whatley of the RNC said the following: "We have also hired and placed 'election integrity directors' in several battleground states who are already recruiting and training tens of thousands of volunteers to serve as poll judges, workers and observers who will act as real-time monitors whenever votes are being cast and counted. And we will do more."

That's the kind of real thing going on while the press and general public is distracted by the latest insipid stuff Trump has said.

I kept asking on this thread about what Trump's team is doing or has done at the grassroots level to tip the electoral balance in their favour and all I got back was 'Well, Trump's picks as governor were defeated in the midterms, so....' That above is the trap being moved into place, but it's at such a basic local level, that no-one seems to notice or care.

Frank Bullitt

I’m surprised there aren’t a few posters going wild that the crowd were cheering for him at UFC 299 last night, and how that is indecisive of something.

Other than it being in Florida, of course.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/MollyJongFast/status/1766858701917335565?s=20

Just shameful stuff here by Mace.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876311#Comment_121876311

That is F*cking awful

kowloon

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876328#Comment_121876328

It's impossible to get through that question without pulling some nonsensical bullshit like that. People who want to brush off the rape verdict can enjoy being confused for long enough to get to the next question without having to question how fucked their moral compass has becme.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876766#Comment_121876766

Civil rape, not criminal rape.

Sounds like folk like her, including on here are getting pointers from the same sources...

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121876801#Comment_121876801

Some politicians get tanked because they had some outstanding parking fines.

Trump voters go, "Was that sexual assault verdict civil or criminal?"

looksee

He was probably quite civil, she didn't claim that he was rude or verbally abusive while he was raping her(eyeroll)

Overheal

Kimmel being a legend

https://www.mediaite.com/news/jimmy-kimmel-reads-trumps-oscars-rant-out-loud-live-during-academy-awards-isnt-it-past-your-jail-time/

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121873561#Comment_121873561

Chubb Insurance must be delighted to see Donnie is still continuing to impugne E Jean Carroll.

Imagine going guarantor for $90million only for the stable genius to continue with the style of attack that's seen him already sanctioned twice.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121879688#Comment_121879688

As if there aren't enough reasons to find Trump a deplorable entity, he goes and makes me laugh with Jimmy Kimmel. Yeesh.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121879729#Comment_121879729

Well - A lot depends on the details of the deal he made with Chubb.

Did they just "give" him the money without locking in some concrete collateral ?

If so , then that money is gone , because Trump has zero chance of getting any relief via appeal.

That appeal will get kicked almost instantly based on all available facts - Will we then see Chubb "calling in their chit" as it were and forcing him to sell property??

I hope that Carroll sues him again , as this next time she'll get even more money from him and he'll be even less likely to find someone to bail him out..

Overheal

Hours after posting bond Trump is back to tripling down on the defamation that saw him lose to two juries

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/third-lawsuit-coming-e-jean-carrolls-lawyer-says-they-continue-to-monitor-every-statement-trump-says-about-her/

can expect the next judgement to be much greater than $88M and interest. And yes it sounds like she’s gonna sue him again. Because why wouldn’t you? Rich of Nancy Mace to try and shame her during her stephanopalous interview where she defended a rapist.