What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

ohnonotgmail

It must be really crazy if even Newsmax and Fox wont touch it.

mcmoustache

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

It must be really crazy if even Newsmax and Fox wont touch it.

Shush, you. I want to see someone, perhaps the only republican on boards, to justify it. I miss Pete.

ohnonotgmail

mcmoustache wrote: »

Shush, you. I want to see someone, perhaps the only republican on boards, to justify it. I miss Pete.

Dont you try to cancel me. I will not be silenced!

mcmoustache

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Dont you try to cancel me. I will not be silenced!

I'm just going to go and see if my liberal friend has any cancel credits to spare. If they do, you'll be sorry.

astrofool

mcmoustache wrote: »

Maybe you can make some sense of this. Are the things that are being stated as fact actually fact or are they a load of unhinged nonsense from a delusional narcissist? I'm leaning towards the latter but I'd like to see you justify this to a simple man like myself.

That's completely mad.

I'd imagine the trumpeters will be whooping and hollering about it, but won't commit themselves to believing or disbelieving it as they're generally too chicken to stand by these statements (just as trump was too chicken to go marching on 6th Jan).

ohnonotgmail

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Exciting times ahead
Entertainment guaranteed for all..
Enjoy the ride gents enjoy the ride.

do you believe the contents of the statement are true?

Tell me how

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Exciting times ahead
Entertainment guaranteed for all..
Enjoy the ride gents enjoy the ride.

Sure.

We heard the same when Fox had damaging Hunter Biden documents which then mysteriously went missing.

I'd say this latest newsflash actually means that the audit QANON were carrying out in Arizona found no irregularities and so they themselves deleted files so they could cry wolf.
Or knowing the people involved, maybe they didn't turn on the PC on which the database is located and so when the screen stayed blank they figured that meant the database had been deleted. These people have form.

everlast75

Interesting thread by Klass....

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1393511811656396800?s=19

1. By replacing Cheney with Stefanik, the GOP has centered itself around a cult of personality, in which sacrificing principles and truth on the altar of Trumpism is required. It's a dynamic I've seen firsthand in dictatorships and authoritarian regimes.

2. Cheney was replaced for two reasons: 1) She broke with Trump during impeachment; and 2) She challenged the "Big Lie" about the 2020 election. The 2nd reason is far more sinister. She was purged because she wouldn't repeat the myths that now define Trump's cult of personality.

3. At the extreme end, cults of personality are absurd. (I've had to stand up to watch a short biopic glorifying the King of Thailand before watching the Hobbit). But I worry that many Americans are also underestimating how dangerous and destructive they are to democracy.

4. Cults of personality function as loyalty tests. By forcing people to display devotion by repeating lies about a leader, they effectively separate the zealots from the dissenters. But it means that principles and debate become secondary to dogmatic repetition of official myths.

5. Worse, they create a ratcheting effect for extremism. Stefanik correctly figured out that she could break out as a GOP star by debasing herself with highly visible displays of fealty to Trump. How do others now break out relative to Stefanik? Be more extreme than she is.

6. As @anneapplebaum (Washington Post author of a piece referenced here) explains, Poland offers a warning. Repeating a false conspiracy theory became a mechanism to show bona fides as a devoted member of the authoritarian "Law & Justice" party. Repeat the official myths, and you're in. That helped accelerate democratic breakdown.

7. It is quite literally the case that advancement in the Republican Party now comes with two tests: 1) Will you unequivocally praise Trump?; 2) Will you lie and say that he won the 2020 election? This dynamic is a watered down version of cults of personality in dictatorships.

8. Whatever you think about Cheney, it's a dangerous development for American democracy that a senior Republican leader was purged largely *because* she told the truth about the winner of the 2020 election. Voters should punish a party that punishes leaders for telling the truth.

pjohnson

The Republican Party is destroying itself.

Should rebrand The Trump Party.

weisses

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Exciting times ahead
Entertainment guaranteed for all..
Enjoy the ride gents enjoy the ride.

It's probably your first ride if you get excited about this.

extra gravy

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Exciting times ahead
Entertainment guaranteed for all..
Enjoy the ride gents enjoy the ride.

Imagine getting excited by the insane ramblings of a
bitter old man. Weird.

Quin_Dub

everlast75 wrote: »

Interesting thread by Klass....

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1393511811656396800?s=19


1. By replacing Cheney with Stefanik, the GOP has centered itself around a cult of personality, in which sacrificing principles and truth on the altar of Trumpism is required. It's a dynamic I've seen firsthand in dictatorships and authoritarian regimes.

2. Cheney was replaced for two reasons: 1) She broke with Trump during impeachment; and 2) She challenged the "Big Lie" about the 2020 election. The 2nd reason is far more sinister. She was purged because she wouldn't repeat the myths that now define Trump's cult of personality.

3. At the extreme end, cults of personality are absurd. (I've had to stand up to watch a short biopic glorifying the King of Thailand before watching the Hobbit). But I worry that many Americans are also underestimating how dangerous and destructive they are to democracy.

4. Cults of personality function as loyalty tests. By forcing people to display devotion by repeating lies about a leader, they effectively separate the zealots from the dissenters. But it means that principles and debate become secondary to dogmatic repetition of official myths.

5. Worse, they create a ratcheting effect for extremism. Stefanik correctly figured out that she could break out as a GOP star by debasing herself with highly visible displays of fealty to Trump. How do others now break out relative to Stefanik? Be more extreme than she is.

6. As @anneapplebaum (Washington Post author of a piece referenced here) explains, Poland offers a warning. Repeating a false conspiracy theory became a mechanism to show bona fides as a devoted member of the authoritarian "Law & Justice" party. Repeat the official myths, and you're in. That helped accelerate democratic breakdown.

7. It is quite literally the case that advancement in the Republican Party now comes with two tests: 1) Will you unequivocally praise Trump?; 2) Will you lie and say that he won the 2020 election? This dynamic is a watered down version of cults of personality in dictatorships.

8. Whatever you think about Cheney, it's a dangerous development for American democracy that a senior Republican leader was purged largely *because* she told the truth about the winner of the 2020 election. Voters should punish a party that punishes leaders for telling the truth.

This is how far it has gone for the GOP.

Ilhan Omar - She of the infamous "Radical Socialist Squad" and a "supporter of Terrorism" has a higher "Conservative Voting" rating than Elise Stefanik

Conservative PAC Club for Growth gives Rep. Ilhan Omar a higher conservative rating than the new House GOP conference chair, Rep. Elise Stefanik.

The Minnesota Democrat has a 38% conservative rating, according to Club for Growth, and Stefanik, R-N.Y., the new No. 3 Republican, scored 35%. Stefanik’s opponent in the GOP conference chair race, Rep. Chip Roy, R-Texas, scored a perfect 100%, and was endorsed by the group. Stefanik also received relatively low scores from the American Conservative Union and the conservative group Heritage Action.

Stefanik, however, had the backing of former President Trump and other leading House Republicans. Stefanik voted against certifying the election in favor of President Biden but Roy did not.

Christ on a bike , The person they are planning on replacing Cheney with is LESS conservative than Ilhan bloody Omar!!!!!

But she lies for Trump and tell him he's awesome so she's AOK for the new GOP.

What matters now , above all else is fealty to Trump.

It's a Cult.

everlast75

If donny jnr doesn't have a drug problem, explain this!

https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1393708341034057733?s=19

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

Interesting thread by Klass....

https://twitter.com/brianklaas/status/1393511811656396800?s=19


3. At the extreme end, cults of personality are absurd. (I've had to stand up to watch a short biopic glorifying the King of Thailand before watching the Hobbit). But I worry that many Americans are also underestimating how dangerous and destructive they are to democracy.
.

I was in a cinema in bangkok once when some music started playing and everybody stood up. I had no idea what was going on but decided that the smart thing to do was follow the crowd.

Overheal

extra gravy wrote: »

Imagine getting excited by the insane ramblings of a
bitter old man. Weird.

Gives those folks a very ironic thrill up the leg

carlirl

has to be said the Donald never started any wars

So, where are the arrests expected for Trump. He has no presidential immunity. Genuine question.

Cody montana

carlirl wrote: »

has to be said the Donald never started any wars

What about the insurrection?

You know he bombed the ****e out of the middle east and Afghanistan?

everlast75

3 pro trump posts over 5 mins when there was none in ages. Curious that

ohnonotgmail

everlast75 wrote: »

3 pro trump posts over 5 mins when there was none in ages. Curious that

they're like buses.

carlirl

Cody montana wrote: »

What about the insurrection?

You know he bombed the ****e out of the middle east and Afghanistan?

No, i mean he never `started` any wars.
didn`t mean the continuation of conflicts that Obama started

ohnonotgmail

carlirl wrote: »

No, i mean he never `started` any wars.
didn`t mean the continuation of conflicts that Obama started

continuation and escalation. So much so he stopped publishing the stats on drone strikes.

Cody montana

carlirl wrote: »

No, i mean he never `started` any wars.
didn`t mean the continuation of conflicts that Obama started

What conflict did Obama specifically start?

carlirl

Think you`ll find he was instrumental in pulling all troops back home, so there couldnt be any continuation or escalation

extra gravy

carlirl wrote: »

Think you`ll find he was instrumental in pulling all troops back home, so there couldnt be any continuation or escalation

When did he do that? Must have missed it.

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

3 pro trump posts over 5 mins when there was none in ages. Curious that

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

they're like buses.

Conspiracy forum ->

Or maybe <-

Hard to say on the internet.

Anyway I didn't actually write any kind of "pro trump" post, if you are referring to me. I asked a genuine question.

ohnonotgmail

carlirl wrote: »

Think you`ll find he was instrumental in pulling all troops back home, so there couldnt be any continuation or escalation

except he wasn't. he certainly made great announcements about same but neglected to ask the pentagon if they were feasible. he brought home less troops than obama.

carlirl

carlirl wrote: »

Think you`ll find he was instrumental in pulling all troops back home, so there couldnt be any continuation or escalation

well that is partly true and partly false. Trump didn't start any new wars but he really didn't end any either. Biden is ending Afghanistan, to be fair.

carlirl

fvp4 wrote: »

Biden is ending Afghanistan, to be fair.

thats as maybe, but not entirely helping with the Middle East at the moment!

duploelabs

carlirl wrote: »

Think you`ll find he was instrumental in pulling all troops back home, so there couldnt be any continuation or escalation

Like supporting proxy wars don't count like the arms deal with Saudi Arabia?