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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,839 ✭✭✭✭briany


    duploelabs wrote: »


    Wonder what Fox's reasoning behind that is. It can't be because they've suddenly copped a pocketful of decency.
    Overheal wrote: »

    How do you manage that.

    Are they just pull-ups? You can't like zip up and button pants backwards without having a mental fit - the mechanics wouldn't work think about it. These have got to be some cheater pants right, like a clip-on tie of suit pants.

    My thoughts as well. Can you get stretchy waistband suit pants? I'm sure that must be a thing. Let me google it... Yes, it does exist.

    So then would that mean that the fly was around the other side? Or are these some kind of special public speech pants that have neither pockets nor flies? Was it a trick of the light or just the way the pants were ruffled. Was it a deliberate move by Trump to deflect and distract?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,042 ✭✭✭Carfacemandog


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Pearcider how do you go from posting the below a decade ago to ranting and raving about communists now?

    Like, what happened you?

    178175.jpg

    Can't recommend this enough for some answers to your questions, the author cofounded Cambridge Analytica who the poster's ramblings are pretty much the fruits of the labour of

    The worst part? The more they are disproven, the more likely it is to entrench them in even further. The focus is to tie the conspiracy theories in with identity (hence the far rights obsession with identity politics in recent years) and as such any criticisms of these theories are seen as an attack on that individual's very identity which triggers a defense mechanism that basically makes people very liable to completely disavow logic.

    From the book...
    An effective Cambridge Analytica technique was to show subjects blogs that made fun of white people like them, such as People of Walmart. Bannon had been observing online communities on places like 4chan and Reddit for years, and he knew how often subgroups of angry young white men would share content of ‘liberal elites’ mocking ‘regular’ Americans. There had always been publications that parodied the ‘hicks’ of flyover country, but social media represented an extraordinary opportunity to rub ‘regular’ Americans’ noses in the snobbery of coastal elites.

    Cambridge Analytica began to use this content to touch on an implied belief about racial competition for attention and resources – that race relations were a zero-sum game. The more they take, the less you have, and they use political correctness so you cannot speak out. This framing of political correctness as an identity threat catalysed a ‘boomerang’ effect in people where counternarratives would actually strengthen, not weaken, the prior bias or belief. This means that when targets would see clips containing criticism of racist statements by candidates or celebrities, this exposure would have the effect of further entrenching the target’s racialised views, rather than causing them to question those beliefs. In this way, if you could frame racialised views through the lens of identity prior to exposure to a counternarrative, that counternarrative would be interpreted as an attack on identity instead. What was so useful for Bannon was that it in effect inoculated target groups from counternarratives criticising ethno-nationalism. It created a wicked reinforcement cycle in which the cohort would strengthen their racialised views when they were exposed to criticism. This may be in part because the area of the brain that is most highly activated when we process strongly held beliefs is the same area that is involved when we think about who we are and our identity. Later, when Donald Trump was aggressively criticised in the media for racist or misogynist statements, these critiques likely created a similar effect, where the criticism of Trump strengthened the resolve of supporters who would internalise the critique as a threat to their very identity.

    By making people angry in this way, CA was following a fairly wide corpus of research showing that anger interferes with information seeking. This is why people can ‘jump to conclusions’ in a fit of rage, even if later they regret their decisions. In one experiment, CA would show people on online panels pictures of simple bar graphs about uncontroversial things (e.g., the usage rates of mobile phones or sales of a car type) and the majority would be able to read the graph correctly. However, unbeknownst to the respondents, the data behind these graphs had actually been derived from politically controversial topics, such as income inequality, climate change or deaths from gun violence. When the labels of the same graphs were later switched to their actual controversial topic, respondents who were made angry by identity threats were more likely to misread the relabelled graphs that they had previously understood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,298 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    PropJoe10 wrote: »
    I am pretty sure that Bulmers released a batch of pear cider a few years ago that gave everyone a dose of the runs.

    A dose of running off the mouth for some it seems. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1401606262803075072?s=19

    Diaper Donnie really should have stayed at home last night. Hard to know which was worse, his speech or his appearance.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,097 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    https://twitter.com/ChrisDJackson/status/1401606262803075072?s=19

    Diaper Donnie really should have stayed at home last night. Hard to know which was worse, his speech or his appearance.

    He got that Diaper Money.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Another Trump-ite showing his mensa qualifications

    https://twitter.com/nycsouthpaw/status/1401726817921290240?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,301 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    everlast75 wrote: »


    You can expect that excuse to be used now by anyone that doesn't like democratic election results. It's going to be a serious issue. Autocracy is growing fast.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,097 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    What is Rudy's pardon status again?

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

    CNN has exclusive call audio between Giuliani and Zelenksy's office where he coerced Zelensky as to the timing and the method of how he would raise the issue of Biden/Burisma, down to details like Zelensky would say it, conversationally, on his own ie. he would 'incept it.' Rudy made it clear that announcing that investigation, and doing it "at the right time," and "on his own, in conversation, it would go a long way. It would go a long way with the President to solve the problems" with the frozen aid.

    "That would clear the air really well," Giuliani said, according to the recording. "And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think, for me to talk to the President (Trump) to see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside ... I kinda think that this could be a good thing for having a much better relationship."

    Giuliani, earlier in the call, even acknowledges this ^ type of behavior, is a crime:

    "To me, as a lawyer, it sounds like a bribe," Giuliani said. "A bribe is offering something of value in exchange for official action." Of course at that moment in the call he was trying to cast aspersions about Biden and Poroshenko, not incriminate himself.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Overheal wrote: »
    What is Rudy's pardon status again?

    https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/politics/rudy-giuliani-ukraine-call-investigate-biden/index.html

    CNN has exclusive call audio between Giuliani and Zelenksy's office where he coerced Zelensky as to the timing and the method of how he would raise the issue of Biden/Burisma, down to details like Zelensky would say it, conversationally, on his own ie. he would 'incept it.' Rudy made it clear that announcing that investigation, and doing it "at the right time," and "on his own, in conversation, it would go a long way. It would go a long way with the President to solve the problems" with the frozen aid.

    "That would clear the air really well," Giuliani said, according to the recording. "And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think, for me to talk to the President (Trump) to see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside ... I kinda think that this could be a good thing for having a much better relationship."

    Giuliani, earlier in the call, even acknowledges this ^ type of behavior, is a crime:

    "To me, as a lawyer, it sounds like a bribe," Giuliani said. "A bribe is offering something of value in exchange for official action." Of course at that moment in the call he was trying to cast aspersions about Biden and Poroshenko, not incriminate himself.

    It confirms what we all knew when the Reps supressed evidence at the impeachment trial. Corrupt as **** and Trump got away with it.

    To some, this is a badge of honour but to most, it is just more proof that he was one of, if not the most corrupt POTUS ever.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,711 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    everlast75 wrote: »
    It confirms what we all knew when the Reps supressed evidence at the impeachment trial. Corrupt as **** and Trump got away with it.

    To some, this is a badge of honour but to most, it is just more proof that he was one of, if not the most corrupt POTUS ever.

    I'm sure honest journalist Bill O'Reilly will quiz Trump on all of that on the speaking tour they're planning on doing together.

    Whatever happened to that guy anyway?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/secupp/status/1401611004555972611?s=19

    Desperate times call for desperate measures....


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Oul rat****er has something to say re Bannon and Trump.

    What a lovely bunch they all are...

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1400514931879972870?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    everlast75 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/secupp/status/1401611004555972611?s=19

    Desperate times call for desperate measures....

    "Humbly asking 1 final time." :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,379 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    everlast75 wrote: »
    It confirms what we all knew when the Reps supressed evidence at the impeachment trial. Corrupt as **** and Trump got away with it.

    To some, this is a badge of honour but to most, it is just more proof that he was one of, if not the most corrupt POTUS ever.

    (I nicked this from reddit but its a timely reminder of the what was going on at the time)
    > "That [launching an investigation into Biden] would clear the air really well," Giuliani said, according to the recording. "And I think it would make it possible for me to come and make it possible, I think, for me to talk to the President (Trump) to see what I can do about making sure that whatever misunderstandings are put aside ... I kinda think that [investigating Biden] could be a good thing for having a much better relationship."

    Just a reminder of the context:

    Giuliani had successfully negotiated with corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko to launch an investigation into Biden in exchange for terminating the US ambassador that was leading American anti-corruption efforts in Ukraine. This is now the center of the federal criminal investigation into Giuliani.
    Trump then personally ordered the ambassador's termination, fulfilling his end of the deal.
    Then the Ukrainian President who supported Lutsenko suffered a stunning landslide defeat to Zelensky, and the deal was off. Lutsenko was clearly going to be out of a job.

    So Giuliani resorted to direct extortion of the new President, which are the contents of this call. When it didn't work, Trump picked up the phone and did it himself, illegally withholding US taxpayer money for Ukraine security assistance and making it contingent upon Zelenskiy agreeing to help rig the 2020 election in Trump's favor.


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    everlast75 wrote: »
    Oul rat****er has something to say re Bannon and Trump.

    What a lovely bunch they all are...

    https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1400514931879972870?s=19

    Roger Stone being interviewed by Alex Jones... yeah I'm not gonna believe any of that


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,379 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Roger Stone being interviewed by Alex Jones... yeah I'm not gonna believe any of that

    In what context would you believe anything Stone says?


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,656 ✭✭✭✭Muahahaha


    I wonder will Guiliani face charges for his Ukraine meddling? He was effectively undermining the Department of State by running his own foreign policy behind their backs. Surely that alone has to attract federal charges?


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,379 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I wonder will Guiliani face charges for his Ukraine meddling? He was effectively undermining the Department of State by running his own foreign policy behind their backs. Surely that alone has to attract federal charges?

    There most certainly is
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Agents_Registration_Act?wprov=sfla1
    The Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA) is a United States law passed in 1938 requiring that agents representing the interests of foreign powers in a "political or quasi-political capacity" disclose their relationship with the foreign government and information about related activities and finances. The purpose is to facilitate "evaluation by the government and the American people of the statements and activities of such persons." The law is administered by the FARA Unit of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section (CES) in the National Security Division (NSD) of the United States Department of Justice. As of 2007 the Justice Department reported there were approximately 1,700 lobbyists representing more than 100 countries before Congress, the White House and the federal government.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Roger Stone being interviewed by Alex Jones... yeah I'm not gonna believe any of that

    It was more in the context that they are all vile and odious characters than anything else.

    Mind you, maybe Stone is projecting in that blackmail is how he got his pardon from Trump. **** knows, it's not like Trump is a loyal friend. There is always a quid pro quo


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭francois


    Interesting analysis of the sharing of Trump's social media witterings pre and post banning

    https://twitter.com/daveyalba/status/1401931236642377733?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,639 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Muahahaha wrote: »
    I wonder will Guiliani face charges for his Ukraine meddling? He was effectively undermining the Department of State by running his own foreign policy behind their backs. Surely that alone has to attract federal charges?

    Ha ha ha ha. You make me laugh.

    There's a wide wide gap between what 'has to attract federal charges' and what does attract federal charges.

    In one breath the GOP talk about needing guns to prevent a tyrannical government going against the will of the people. When the sitting President incited an insurrection in order to override the democratic will of the people, they firstly, voted to not hold him accountable and secondly voted not to have an investigation in to what happened.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,081 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    Ha ha ha ha. You make me laugh.

    There's a wide wide gap between what 'has to attract federal charges' and what does attract federal charges.

    In one breath the GOP talk about needing guns to prevent a tyrannical government going against the will of the people. When the sitting President incited an insurrection in order to override the democratic will of the people, they firstly, voted to not hold him accountable and secondly voted not to have an investigation in to what happened.

    The poor GOP members must be knackered trying to reconcile their own opposing views. I don't know how they do it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,695 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Great news for us trump supporters.

    You should head into your local town and have a listen to a poor unfortunate who is out of their head on drugs and/or alcohol.

    That should satiate your appetite for his inane ramblings


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,440 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    everlast75 wrote: »
    You should head into your local town and have a listen to a poor unfortunate who is out of their head on drugs and/or alcohol.

    That should satiate your appetite for his inane ramblings

    does the NYT information mean that trump supporters can no longer claim he has been cancelled?


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,512 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    does the NYT information mean that trump supporters can no longer claim he has been cancelled?

    Are you asking if the existence of facts will stop Trump supporters saying the opposite?


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,440 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Are you asking if the existence of facts will stop Trump supporters saying the opposite?

    when you put it like that it was a very silly question indeed. I'll go and flagellate myself for my stupidity.


  • Registered Users Posts: 83,097 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Sounds like this IG report by a trump handpick was a waste of time. It still includes evidence the park police were pressured to clear out Lafayette square on a time limit before POTUS arrived but it investigated no secret service agents or asked any White House officials what happened. Then it leaps to some pretty bad conclusions trying to exonerate Trump.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/jim-acosta-rips-trump-appointed-ig-who-did-report-on-bible-photo-op-auditioning-to-be-inspector-general-at-mar-a-lago/


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,814 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Overheal wrote: »
    Sounds like this IG report by a trump handpick was a waste of time. It still includes evidence the park police were pressured to clear out Lafayette square on a time limit before POTUS arrived but it investigated no secret service agents or asked any White House officials what happened. Then it leaps to some pretty bad conclusions trying to exonerate Trump.

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/jim-acosta-rips-trump-appointed-ig-who-did-report-on-bible-photo-op-auditioning-to-be-inspector-general-at-mar-a-lago/

    There are two sides to any story and the mainstream media have been caught out yet again with their lies and their biasedness.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/09/lafayette-park-not-cleared-donald-trump-photo-opp-report-says/7622478002/
    The report, released Wednesday by Interior Department Inspector General Mark Lee Greenblatt, says U.S. Park Police and the U.S. Secret Service determined it was necessary to remove protesters from the area in and around the park last June 1, so contractors could install security fencing.

    Federal police didn't learn of Trump's plans to walk through the park and examine damage from a fire at St. John's Episcopal Church until mid- to late afternoon – hours after they had begun planning for the security fencing and the contractor had arrived in the park, the report says.

    "The evidence we obtained did not support a finding that the USPP cleared the park to allow the president to survey the damage and walk to St. John’s Church,” the report said.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,097 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    There are two sides to any story and the mainstream media have been caught out yet again with their lies and their biasedness.

    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2021/06/09/lafayette-park-not-cleared-donald-trump-photo-opp-report-says/7622478002/

    Yet the findings show they were told POTUS was coming so they would have had to use a greater escalation of force to hurry such a project along.

    Attorney General, William Barr, asked the park operations commander “Are these people still going to be here when POTUS comes out?” to which the operations commander replied (to Mr. Barr), “are you freaking kidding me?”


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