What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Overheal

I thought Obama’s biggest crime was putting mustard on that cheeseburger? Glenn Beck might have had a piece in it and how it was a signal flare to bring back the Hitler Youth or something

Simpler times. Still wild, but simpler.

Leroy42

notobtuse wrote: »

Not in the least bit. It will go down in history as president Obama's biggest crime committed and gotten away with... abuse of power. Biden also is guilty of it as VP and continues today as president.

Let me guess. Nobody is talking about it, its being hidden by a left democratic system but you know all about it.

Somehow, these master manipulators, are happy enough for you to not only know, but actually blow the whistle on them.

All the while for 4 years, POTUS Trump was powerless to do anything about it.

everlast75

notobtuse wrote: »

Not in the least bit. It will go down in history as president Obama's biggest crime committed and gotten away with... abuse of power. Biden also is guilty of it as VP and continues today as president.

Yeah.

So anyway, this seems important

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1410917350677823491?s=19

Difficult to testify that he knew nothing about what went on when he said the above under oath.

mcmoustache

Cody montana wrote: »

You are not living in reality at all.

Back in the day, people used to argue on line but there was at least a shared reality within which to disagree.


Nowadays, we have this a bunch of presumably reasonable people so in thrall to a personality that they've lost all sense of reality.



It's bonkers but I guess this is where we are now.

ohnonotgmail

Overheal wrote: »

I thought Obama’s biggest crime was putting mustard on that cheeseburger? Glenn Beck might have had a piece in it and how it was a signal flare to bring back the Hitler Youth or something

Simpler times. Still wild, but simpler.

this was clearly his biggest crime. He is history's greatest monster. Trump would never wear a suit like that. And by "like that" I mean a suit that fits correctly.

notobtuse

Leroy42 wrote: »

Let me guess. Nobody is talking about it, its being hidden by a left democratic system but you know all about it.

Somehow, these master manipulators, are happy enough for you to not only know, but actually blow the whistle on them.

All the while for 4 years, POTUS Trump was powerless to do anything about it.

A few media sources and journalists were brave enough to report on them at the risk of being ostracized in the media community and not being invited to liberal cocktail parties in the upper east side of Manhattan anymore, or hobnob with the Hollywood elite.

Here’s just a couple to get you started…

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/373379-federal-abuses-a-growing-blight-on-obamas-legacy

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/509002-more-willful-blindness-by-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration

https://theweek.com/articles/464430/why-did-obama-administration-spy-associated-press

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-unresolved-irs-scandal-1525905500

everlast75

mcmoustache wrote: »

Back in the day, people used to argue on line but there was at least a shared reality within which to disagree.


Nowadays, we have this a bunch of presumably reasonable people so in thrall to a personality that they've lost all sense of reality.

It's bonkers but I guess this is where we are now.

It's either that, or they are just wind up merchants.

Imagine those two cohorts being all that's left to argue for you.

duploelabs

notobtuse wrote: »

A few media sources and journalists were brave enough to report on them at the risk of being ostracized in the media community and not being invited to liberal cocktail parties in the upper east side of Manhattan anymore, or hobnob with the Hollywood elite.

Here’s just a couple to get you started…

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/373379-federal-abuses-a-growing-blight-on-obamas-legacy

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/509002-more-willful-blindness-by-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration

https://theweek.com/articles/464430/why-did-obama-administration-spy-associated-press

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-unresolved-irs-scandal-1525905500

3 of those 4 pieces are opinion pieces with no verified links or sources 😂
Do you know the difference between having an opinion and stating a fact?

No, of course you don't

Leroy42

notobtuse wrote: »

A few media sources and journalists were brave enough to report on them at the risk of being ostracized in the media community and not being invited to liberal cocktail parties in the upper east side of Manhattan anymore, or hobnob with the Hollywood elite.

Here’s just a couple to get you started…

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/373379-federal-abuses-a-growing-blight-on-obamas-legacy

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/509002-more-willful-blindness-by-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration

https://theweek.com/articles/464430/why-did-obama-administration-spy-associated-press

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-unresolved-irs-scandal-1525905500

What is that supposed to prove? Nothing actually proven, surely a Trump supporter is against taking the media as any source.

If you believe the MSM is all corrupt, what makes you think these outlets aren't? How do you separate one from the other?

You also have been arguing against investigations, so not sure how you ever expect these deeds to be uncovered.

notobtuse

Leroy42 wrote: »

What is that supposed to prove? Nothing actually proven, surely a Trump supporter is against taking the media as any source.

If you believe the MSM is all corrupt, what makes you think these outlets aren't? How do you separate one from the other?

You also have been arguing against investigations, so not sure how you ever expect these deeds to be uncovered.

I've come accept that under Obama, Biden, a Democrat controlled Congress, and a biased mainstream media, justice too often doesn't get served. A sad commentary on modern politics, but all too true.

notobtuse

notobtuse wrote: »

I've come accept that under Obama, Biden, a Democrat controlled Congress, and a biased mainstream media, justice too often doesn't get served. A sad commentary on modern politics, but all too true.

Justice for Rudy campaign started? After his immense civil rights abuses. :pac:

Leroy42

notobtuse wrote: »

I've come accept that under Obama, Biden, a Democrat controlled Congress, and a biased mainstream media, justice too often doesn't get served. A sad commentary on modern politics, but all too true.

Based on what? No evidence just some possibles and your own bias.

Which in of itself not unusual, but to then not use any of the same standards for Trump makes you a hypocrite.

We both agree, I trust, that corruption is bad. The difference is I see corruption on both sides as bad, you see corruption on Dem side as terrible but on Trump as acceptable because the Dems do it more.

listermint

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

this was clearly his biggest crime. He is history's greatest monster. Trump would never wear a suit like that. And by "like that" I mean a suit that fits correctly.

To be fair. Not a fan of the fit of that suit. It's poor tailoring as is most American suit styles. Things are slowly turning very recently but you still have alot of 3 button abysmal 80s cuts on people

Obama could take that in a bit in places. But I don't think he ever got the length wrong.

Overheal

mcmoustache wrote: »

Back in the day, people used to argue on line but there was at least a shared reality within which to disagree.


Nowadays, we have this a bunch of presumably reasonable people so in thrall to a personality that they've lost all sense of reality.



It's bonkers but I guess this is where we are now.

I’ve got people on FB arguing that Trump really did build the whole wall but that Biden tore it down. You can make this up.

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

A few media sources and journalists were brave enough to report on them at the risk of being ostracized in the media community and not being invited to liberal cocktail parties in the upper east side of Manhattan anymore, or hobnob with the Hollywood elite.

Here’s just a couple to get you started…

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/373379-federal-abuses-a-growing-blight-on-obamas-legacy

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/509002-more-willful-blindness-by-the-media-on-spying-by-obama-administration

https://theweek.com/articles/464430/why-did-obama-administration-spy-associated-press

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-unresolved-irs-scandal-1525905500

Linking to opinion pieces from liberal rags? Well I never

Overheal

notobtuse wrote: »

I've come accept that under Obama, Biden, a Democrat controlled Congress, and a biased mainstream media, justice too often doesn't get served. A sad commentary on modern politics, but all too true.

How many cronies did Obama pardon on his way out the door?

Cody montana

notobtuse wrote: »

I've come accept that under Obama, Biden, a Democrat controlled Congress, and a biased mainstream media, justice too often doesn't get served. A sad commentary on modern politics, but all too true.

Nah, Trump got impeached twice by democrats.
It was republicans that refused to remove him.

everlast75

And people say Trump didn't have any influence on the national stage....

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1410760170272141313?s=19

briany

everlast75 wrote: »

And people say Trump didn't have any influence on the national stage....

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1410760170272141313?s=19

It's amazing that we once thought the Internet would bring humanity to a higher plane of thought, but instead it's brought us, 'VOTURRR FRAUD!!!" and "If the Earth is round, why doesn't the water fall off?"

Overheal

Governor Ron DeStantis has been pleading with Donald Trump to postpone his next "Save America" rally being held within 200 miles of Miami, the site of the condominium collapse where Florida and the Federal Government are working in stride on an apolitical search and recovery mission.

Former President Donald Trump is rejecting pleas from Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis to postpone a campaign-style rally this weekend some 200 miles from the Miami suburb where an international search-and-rescue mission is excavating bodies from the site of a collapsed seaside condominium.

DeSantis’s office has "made a direct plea” to the former president’s team, calling on it to postpone the Saturday event in Sarasota. One Florida Republican bluntly said Trump and his team need to “read the room.”

“The governor is getting tested here as to how far he's going to be pushed before he breaks ranks with President Trump. And he has to be very careful because this is Trump country,” this source said. “The base loves the president. But they equally love Ron. It's a showdown going on right now.”

For now, the Trump camp is holding firm. “Nobody wants to cancel,” a source close to Trump told the Washington Examiner.

Clearly there is some reasonable concern that a rally about how the current President is "destroying America" while he is down in Miami on the ground in crisis mode, trying to work together with the Governor without reporters and protesters badgering them with wedge issues trump is pouring gasoline on. A rally would at best only serve to distract that search and recovery mission, which presently appears to be operating in a state of very high efficiency and expediency.

briany

briany wrote: »

It's amazing that we once thought the Internet would bring humanity to a higher plane of thought, but instead it's brought us, 'VOTURRR FRAUD!!!" and "If the Earth is round, why doesn't the water fall off?"

You always had people who have the mental capacity of a retarded snail, and people who are just c*nts. But instead of having to just the barstool and ranting on street corners, they now have various platforms online.
Nothing wrong with the internet, just the above don't have ability and integrity to deal with facts.

everlast75

notobtuse wrote: »

Yup... slap him with a hefty fine and tack on interest charges as is the normal practice. And so is the government not sending me my substantial tax refund from last year, wrong. Hey, maybe I should take the lead of this Manhattan DA and get the IRS charged for grand theft.

The idea that a Trump supporter suddenly has an issue with him not paying tax holds no water.

Remember this from his 2016 campaign?

https://twitter.com/gtconway3dg/status/1410976001757270023?s=19



And Donny like an idiot wonders why his taxes have become a focal point...

mcmoustache

duploelabs wrote: »

3 of those 4 pieces are opinion pieces with no verified links or sources ��
Do you know the difference between having an opinion and stating a fact?

No, of course you don't

You and others have pointed this out before and it's actually very important. A lot of people think that they learn by reading opinion pieces and watching talking heads telling them what to think.


And they think that that's what everyone else is doing so they think that the posters here are watching Maddow every night or reading some third wave feminist pieces from the guardian when most of us are just seeing events that happened and making a reasonable judgement.

Tell me how

everlast75 wrote: »

And people say Trump didn't have any influence on the national stage....

https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1410760170272141313?s=19

And in the UK......


https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/1410886103549292544

I said it 5 years ago that Trump would be a problem because he would change what constituted reasonable behaviour from political figures and while he isn't unique in being an a**hole in this respect, or the first to do so, he has brought this BS mainstream and to a wider audience.

MeMen2_MoRi_

mcmoustache wrote: »

You and others have pointed this out before and it's actually very important. A lot of people think that they learn by reading opinion pieces and watching talking heads telling them what to think.


And they think that that's what everyone else is doing so they think that the posters here are watching Maddow every night or reading some third wave feminist pieces from the guardian when most of us are just seeing events that happened and making a reasonable judgement.

When reading an article, all I read is the quotes.. I skip past the writers thoughts, I'll then follow up with a YouTube search of the piece.. the tone of the question, the tone of the response/body language adds way more too the story then an opinion.

This fox news/CNN stuff goes over my head

MeMen2_MoRi_

Tell me how wrote: »

And in the UK......


https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/1410886103549292544

I said it 5 years ago that Trump would be a problem because he would change what constituted reasonable behaviour from political figures and while he isn't unique in being an a**hole in this respect, or the first to do so, he has brought this BS mainstream and to a wider audience.

His politicing was so over looked by the US public, the stream of bad press of him put people into a false sense of security that he couldn't win the POTUS race.

Hopefully this lives long in people's memories, the effects of him on US politics will be felt for many years

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/WhosAdrianBarry/status/1410286636412411907?s=19

Penn

Tell me how wrote: »

And in the UK......


https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/1410886103549292544

I said it 5 years ago that Trump would be a problem because he would change what constituted reasonable behaviour from political figures and while he isn't unique in being an a**hole in this respect, or the first to do so, he has brought this BS mainstream and to a wider audience.

Just noticed the sign behind him

fullstop

notobtuse wrote: »

A definition of 'girl' is a young woman. I consider her to be a young woman and therefore a girl.

Right, but in 14 years she would have been a “meemaw” :rolleyes:

She was a scumbag, and paid the price.

Overheal

Tell me how wrote: »

And in the UK......


https://twitter.com/IamHappyToast/status/1410886103549292544

I said it 5 years ago that Trump would be a problem because he would change what constituted reasonable behaviour from political figures and while he isn't unique in being an a**hole in this respect, or the first to do so, he has brought this BS mainstream and to a wider audience.

*cleans glasses*

Is he really doing me a minority report from a Four Seasons