What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Overheal · 06-07-2021 10:24pm

Yeah_Right wrote: »

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Don't know enough about the energy policies but I'm guessing it involved a lot of environmental damage. And whatever those policies were, they didn't help Texas.

The Republican line atm is 'Trump made us energy independent' and that also 'Biden made us not energy dependent.' their evidence they cite is the axing of the 8% complete keystoneXL pipeline, which had no metric bearing on our energy independence at any point. Nevermind that most of the effort the country put in was already mostly done before Trump took office, we were already a net exporter of refined oils and fuels with volume second only to Russia, and the third largest crude producer in the world, under Obama.

There's no data there to evidence that Biden has removed our status as an energy independent nation.

Overheal · 06-07-2021 10:26pm

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump certainly did not win the popular vote and did not get the certifications from electoral college vote.

So Biden won the election fairly and squarely. Even against the backdrop of efforts to suppress the vote at the USPS.

everlast75 · 06-07-2021 10:28pm

Overheal wrote: »

So Biden won the election fairly and squarely. Even against the backdrop of efforts to suppress the vote at the USPS.

And trying to get the Ukraine to interfere.
And China.
And he used voter suppression.
And he lied prolifically.
And he contravened the Hatch Act.
And he still lost. Comprehensively

Overheal · 06-07-2021 11:11pm

everlast75 wrote: »

And trying to get the Ukraine to interfere.
And China.
And he used voter suppression.
And he lied prolifically.
And he contravened the Hatch Act.
And he still lost. Comprehensively

That, as a single line, wouldn't really underscore how much he abused the office of the president for his political campaigning. From the bull**** "Trump Cheques" to the WH employees who all "just have opinions" while they're on the taxpayer's clock, to the - sigh - to the god damn goya beans, and everything in between; if any of the Trumpers start to wag their fingers at the first casual slip up of the Hatch Act under the biden presidency, don't hurt them or anything just - rub their head of hair, like in the above gif, that's it.

PropJoe10 · 06-07-2021 11:29pm

everlast75 wrote: »

And trying to get the Ukraine to interfere.
And China.
And he used voter suppression.
And he lied prolifically.
And he contravened the Hatch Act.
And he still lost. Comprehensively

Well, he lost by pretty much the exact same margin that he beat Clinton by, which he described as a "landslide win". Take from that what you will.

07-07-2021 12:09am

notobtuse wrote: »

Trump certainly did not win the popular vote and did not get the certifications from electoral college vote.

He didn't win the popular vote or win the electoral colleges... And you think other people should be deprogrammed?

Overheal · 07-07-2021 1:24am

Deleted User wrote: »

And you think other people should be deprogrammed?

Just feign "being interested in what they had to say and asking them about the reasons for their beliefs over and above their ingrained cult doctrines. Getting them to see for themselves it all really didn't make any sense. It was really just a method of getting them to start thinking for themselves again."

Tell us again about the Democrat handmaidens and who they are, notobtuse.

Tell me how · 07-07-2021 1:55am

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Joyce Day (@Daytobehappy) Tweeted: The difference between Trump's visit to the border and Kamala's is lthe difference between visiting someone who is very ill at the hospital or just hanging out in the gift shop to say you've been there without having to go to any trouble!

Sums it up well and shows the difference between this administration and the last.

An absolute disgrace that the vice president didn't visit the border properly considering illegal immigration has been at record levels since her administration took over.

He didn't want to go to a WW2 memorial because it was raining.

You've either a short memory or are playing a role of some sort.

extra gravy · 07-07-2021 2:30am

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Joyce Day (@Daytobehappy) Tweeted: The difference between Trump's visit to the border and Kamala's is lthe difference between visiting someone who is very ill at the hospital or just hanging out in the gift shop to say you've been there without having to go to any trouble! https://twitter.com/Daytobehappy/status/1410642941987770369?s=20

Sums it up well and shows the difference between this administration and the last.

An absolute disgrace that the vice president didn't visit the border properly considering illegal immigration has been at record levels since her administration took over.

*Paging notoobtuse*

Your deprogramming skills are required.

Overheal · 07-07-2021 3:44am

WhomadeGod wrote: »

An absolute disgrace that the vice president didn't visit the border properly considering illegal immigration has been at record levels since her administration took over.

Because the administration has been arresting them at record levels, you mean?

duploelabs · 15-07-2021 8:37am

It's good to be back

Igotadose · 15-07-2021 8:45am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117611840#Comment_117611840

Sure is. It's been a long time in 'post-Trumpworld.' Lots of books coming out showing just what a s**tstorm was churning in the WH starting after the election. Such fun.

Nice bit of 'elections have consequences' in the news; Biden's been firing #IMPOTUS appointees to Federal boards and commissions. How can he do this? Well, because the USSC voted in favor of this ability in 2020. So, #IMPOTUS appointees allowing the POTUS more authority. Payback's a beyotch.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2021/07/joe-biden-andrew-saul-trump-unitary-executive.html

duploelabs · 15-07-2021 9:02am

Looks like the head of the JOC didn't like donald either

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/07/i-alone-can-fix-it-mark-milley-likened-trump-to-hitler.html

"Although the book chronicles Milley’s concern with Trump dating back to that moment, the general’s worries grew rapidly as the president plunged the nation into chaos following Election Day. Seven days later, Milley got a call from “an old friend” with an explicit warning that Trump and his allies were trying to “overturn the government.” Milley was confident that any attempts by Trump to hold on to power would be thwarted, because the military wouldn’t go along. “They may try, but they’re not going to **** succeed,” he told aides. “You can’t do this without the military. You can’t do this without the CIA and the FBI. We’re the guys with guns.”"

briany · 15-07-2021 9:46am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117612019#Comment_117612019

Yeah, one small thing is that while the US military, CIA and FBI do indeed have guns, they don't have the monopoly on guns. Many ordinary Americans are also armed to the teeth and a worryingly large proportion of these support Trump.

I think the Capitol riots showed that Trump would not necessarily wait to secure military backing before attempting a coup and was more than happy to put the feelers out for that particular escapade.

banie01 · 15-07-2021 2:48pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jul/15/kremlin-papers-appear-to-show-putins-plot-to-put-trump-in-white-house

Its the story that surfaced with the Steele dossier and just keeps running.

Strong line taken in The Guardian that they claim is supported by Kremlin papers confirming that Kompromat exists and the lunacy of some of the reports in books out this week would strongly support the notion that Don was in Putin's pocket.

Vladimir Putin personally authorised a secret spy agency operation to support a “mentally unstable” Donald Trump in the 2016 US presidential election during a closed session of Russia’s national security council, according to what are assessed to be leaked Kremlin documents.

The key meeting took place on 22 January 2016, the papers suggest, with the Russian president, his spy chiefs and senior ministers all present.

They agreed a Trump White House would help secure Moscow’s strategic objectives, among them “social turmoil” in the US and a weakening of the American president’s negotiating position.

Russia’s three spy agencies were ordered to find practical ways to support Trump, in a decree appearing to bear Putin’s signature.

jamule · 15-07-2021 4:46pm

So basically Putin seen Trump as the fooking clown he is and having him as the US Pres would be the absolute **** show it was.

More or less what the rest of us thought, except it gave the russians a 4yr free pass

notobtuse · 15-07-2021 5:44pm

So, according to this suspect report, some inside the Kremlin wanted to get a guy into office that then upon winning the presidency signed into law the Countering America's Adversaries Through Sanctions Act, and followed it up with sanctions on Russia after sanctions after sanctions throughout his term, armed the Ukraine and increased weapons sales to Poland, Romania, and Georgia. And a host of other things to hit Russia negatively with. I guess if this meeting to bolster Trump's hopes really happened, my guess is those inside the Kremlin that pushed for Trump to become president of the US are now sitting in some gulag in Siberia living on bread and water.

duploelabs · 15-07-2021 5:52pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117615869#Comment_117615869

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot?wprov=sfla1

astrofool · 16-07-2021 10:26am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117615869#Comment_117615869

It is an odd reality that a trumper can think that donald did anything other than roll onto his back and expose his belly for Putin to do whatever he wanted with him.

Sure, there was the usual hot air about sanctions but none of this really effected Russia and probably boosted Putin's ratings (same as donald's bone headed decisions on Iran now means that Iran have their own far right hot head in charge).

everlast75 · 16-07-2021 11:56am

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117615869#Comment_117615869

So leaked papers from the Kremlin say Trump was putin's boy, Trump openly admires Putin, they welcome assistance in 2016 from Putin, Trump says he believes putin over his own intelligence agencies, his former staffers said as much, we watched his behaviour in Helsinki and saw as much, but NO! - You're right and everyone else is wrong.

ohnonotgmail · 16-07-2021 12:00pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117619227#Comment_117619227

not forgetting the private meeting he had with Putin where there was nobody from the american side in the room.

notobtuse · 16-07-2021 5:05pm

It's being reported that ticket sales are moving slowly for the upcoming Donald Trump & Bill O'Reilly stadium tour. I dunno, going to 20,000 stadium seat venues in the COVID era seems a little too aggressive to me. And at between $100 and $300 a pop, it's a little too pricey for me. The events are not until way late in the year and there is still plenty of time. Plus, they already have $5 million from tickets already sold and nothing has been spent promoting the events. Marketing for the events should start shortly, I figure. It will be interesting to see if they do sell out by the time the events come around. I'm guessing the majority of the venues will be sold out by the time they arrive. But one thing for sure is the events will cause the mainstream medias heads to collectively explode.

everlast75 · 16-07-2021 5:06pm

When you've lost Dersh...

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1415841131904962560?s=20

So I guess he's a RINO now too?

notobtuse · 16-07-2021 5:31pm

https://boards.ie/discussion/comment/117620775#Comment_117620775

Odd that Dershowitz would think that before the forensic audits are even in, but he is entitled to his opinion. Even if the audits show Trump actually won the election it wouldn’t change anything. But it might help in the 2022 election. Then if the GOP takes back the House they could appoint Trump Speaker Of The House, and if they get a good majority in the Senate, the House could impeach Biden and Harris, and if the Senate removes them both from office Trump becomes President, correcting an error in our political history through a back door method.