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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭francois




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,679 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    From reddit....


    If we could set up a Truman Show scenario where Trump thinks he’s President again and the public send in scenarios for him to deal with, what would you suggest?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I liked the simplicity of the "a mexican moves in next door" response.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,023 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    I saw a report about it. No bombshells there, a lot of embarassing footage for Hunter, but that's it. He didn't exactly confess to hiding any bodies or engaging in corruption, he just talked about **** and debauchery and getting his laptop stolen by Russians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy




  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Hilarious to see them face to face with the monster they helped create!



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,679 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,679 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Is it a prerequisite to be one to be a Republican?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 39,939 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    I just saw that headline. The best people etc etc. Also, the evidence the my pillow guy Mike Lindells “proof” of election fraud went about as expected. He didn’t show any actual proof.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,702 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The blurred scrolling images appear to have been all for show. Another cyber expert, J. Kirk Weibe, told the Times that the “text was likely meant to resemble what the packet captures would look like in the data set but were not actual packet captures.”

    The original source of the data, Dennis L. Montgomery, had supposedly suffered a stroke as the symposium began and was not in attendance nor made available for contact throughout the first two days of the event. Montgomery initially came forward with the supposed packet captures after he spun a conspiracy theory that tools used by the CIA were being used to influence U.S. elections.

    Both Merritt and Krieb, both of whom have pushed claims of voter fraud, agreed that the data Montgomery sent didn’t contain any packet captures and are useless in proving Lindell’s conspiracy that China changes millions of votes.

    Merritt, however, said he still feels the data they were given contains important “forensic” proof that voters were manipulated, and he congratulated himself for what he was able to do with it.

    “We were handed a turd,” he told the Times. “And I had to take that turd and turn it into a diamond. And that’s what I think we did.”

    Mike Lindell also cancelled his offer of giving $5m to anyone who could disprove the evidence he had, most likely because he realised he would definitely have to pay someone $5m, and he's probably going to be giving at least that much to Dominion either as settlement or damages.



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,517 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 15,498 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    The confirmation that Denis Montgomery was the source of the "proof" is just another example of how much Lindell has been scammed by people on this.

    This is the guy that scammed $20M+ out of the US Government for his special "Al Qaeda tracking software" that was of course , complete tripe.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,751 ✭✭✭✭banie01




  • Registered Users Posts: 19,679 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    I note all the trumpers are absent. No doubt they are at home in front of their tvs with the champagne, waiting for Trump's reinstatment today 🍾🍾🍾



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,929 ✭✭✭randd1


    Moonshine, dear boy, moonshine is the drink of choice for the Trumpist.

    Champagne is what the guys that bought the Republican party drink.



  • Registered Users Posts: 23,716 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    One of the speakers said something along the lines of "Hey CNN, you need to start reporting this stuff and stop fact-checking it!", which I thought was a good summation of the whole shambles.



  • Registered Users Posts: 933 ✭✭✭jamule


    What time does the action start at tonight.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    He has already taken over and Tom Hanks, Hillary Clinton and Leo Varadkar are already in Guantanamo. It's just that the lamestream media are ignoring it and showing old clips of Biden to convince the country that he's still in charge, They'll be next on the plane to Guantanamo.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    In the next couple of weeks (I hate that my text suggestions make that sentence on their own, by vitue of it's overuse of that response)



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    All I can think of is a scobby-doo villain saying "And I would have gotten away with it to if it wasn't for those pesky facts"



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,702 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    So, what's the next date for Trump's reinstatement? I'm guessing November 3rd, one year anniversary of the election.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,713 ✭✭✭✭Snake Plisken


    This site is totally broken on mobile, quote from weeks ago just ignore.

    Think you posters are obsessed with Trump yet Joey is messing up on the border and abroad with Afghanistan not to mention domestic issues with the economy and fuel and food supply issues! Think you need to focus on the current Prez!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,302 ✭✭✭PropJoe10


    This is a Donald Trump-related thread. Would be strange to be discussing Biden here. Biden's failings also have zero to do with Trump.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Imagine talking about trump on a trump thread. what a weird lot we all are



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,820 ✭✭✭✭briany


    The concept of getting troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq has been politically-popular since Obama came into office, and getting the troops back home and ending America's policing of the world was something Trump himself advocated. Of course, Trump maintains that he would have handled the whole process much better than Biden is, but what else would anyone expect Trump to say? He's the same guy who said he built the greatest economy in history without even acknowledging the work to bring America out of recession under Obama, as if he'd just taken America from an economic wreck to a powerhouse with the swish of a pen.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,469 ✭✭✭francois




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  • Registered Users Posts: 83,023 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    You can post about it in the Joe Biden thread where it belongs? We're discussing the future of Donald Trump, and his associates, as well as their legacy.


    Speaking of that legacy, and Afghanistan: Trump ordered the withdrawal. If we had followed his timetable we would have been out in March I think. In fact, after he squarely lost the election, he had tried to order the DOD to withdraw ALL US Military forces from pretty much everywhere:


    Former President Donald Trump's last-minute bid to pull U.S. forces from Afghanistan and swaths of the Middle East, Africa and even Europe ahead of Joe Biden's inauguration — and why he blinked.

    John McEntee, one of Donald Trump's most-favored aides, handed retired Army Col. Douglas Macgregor a piece of paper with a few notes scribbled on it. He explained: "This is what the president wants you to do."


    1. Get us out of Afghanistan.

    2. Get us out of Iraq and Syria.

    3. Complete the withdrawal from Germany.

    4. Get us out of Africa.


    It was Nov. 9, 2020 — days after Trump lost his re-election bid, 10 weeks before the end of his presidency and just moments after Macgregor was offered a post as senior adviser to acting Defense Secretary Christopher Miller.

    As head of the powerful Presidential Personnel Office, McEntee had Trump's ear. Even so, Macgregor was astonished. He told McEntee he doubted they could do all of these things before Jan. 20.

    "Then do as much as you can," McEntee replied.

    In Macgregor's opinion, Miller probably couldn't act on his own authority to execute a total withdrawal of U.S. military forces from Afghanistan because he was serving in an acting capacity. If this was for real, Macgregor told McEntee, then it was going to need an order from the president.

    The one-page memo was delivered by courier to Christopher Miller's office two days later, on the afternoon of Nov. 11. The order arrived seemingly out of nowhere, and its instructions, signed by Trump, were stunning: All U.S. military forces were to be withdrawn from Somalia by Dec. 31, 2020. All U.S. forces were to be withdrawn from Afghanistan by Jan. 15, 2021.

    What the **** is this? Miller wondered.

    A former Green Beret, Miller had directed the National Counterterrorism Center and was accustomed to following process. Trump had tapped him to run the Pentagon after his unceremonious firing-by-tweet of Mark Esper. It was Miller's third day on the job.

    News of the memo spread quickly throughout the Pentagon. Top military brass, including Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Mark Milley, were appalled. This was not the way to conduct policy — with no consultation, no input, no process for gaming out consequences or offering alternatives.

    A call was quickly placed to White House Counsel Pat Cipollone. In turn, Cipollone notified the national security adviser, Robert O'Brien. Neither Cipollone nor O'Brien had any idea what the order was or where it had come from.

    Neither did the office of the staff secretary — whose job it was to vet all the paper that reached the president's desk. Yet the paper bore Trump's distinctive Sharpie signature.

    The U.S. government's top national security leaders soon realized they were dealing with an off-the-books operation by the commander in chief himself.

    Many would rally to push back — sometimes openly and in coordination, at other times so discreetly that top Trump administration officials had to turn to classified intercepts from the National Security Agency for clues.

    Trump's instincts should have come as little surprise. He was frantically trying to salvage his own legacy while simultaneously trying to overturn the election results and block Biden's transition to power. The result was chaos.

    And speaking of that legacy, and the border: as of last October, over 3 years after the end of the child separation boondoggle, Trumps administration had yet failed to reconnect 545 children with their parents, and many of them will probably be permanently separated at this point. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/oct/21/trump-separation-policy-545-children-parents-still-not-found

    And the wall only saw 80 new miles built, far from what was pledged.


    On the economy though, you can see where it's taking off in several areas: 2 consecutive months of higher than average GDP. Between Q2 and Q3 last year, Trump's economy shrank 31.2%, after a quarter where it already shrank 5%, and it only bounced back to 33.8% - or about +2.6% between the 2 quarters. And that was even still behind several years under trump of flagging quarters, and nowhere near surpassing the 3% target they had campaigned for themselves as a foil to Obama saying 2-3% growth was the new norm (which it turned out to be).


    And the Dow continues to set records, almost as if what we had been saying all along about how poorly correlated the presidency was with the market was right all along.


    Trump was the only POTUS in living memory that left the job with net negative jobs growth



    As for the current inflation - well hell, Trump even has a role in that, too. The Federal Reserve controls the interest rate, which has a direct impact on inflation. The Fed chair announced quite some time ago they would be shifting policy, and would not change the rate in response to spikes in inflation. That was announced in - oh, August 2020, and who nominated this clandestine figure? Donald Trump?


    The Federal Reserve announced a major policy shift Thursday, saying that it is willing to allow inflation to run hotter than normal in order to support the labor market and broader economy.

    In a move that Chairman Jerome Powell called a “robust updating” of Fed policy, the central bank formally agreed to a policy of “average inflation targeting.” That means it will allow inflation to run “moderately” above the Fed’s 2% goal “for some time” following periods when it has run below that objective.


    The changes were codified in a policy blueprint called the “Statement on Longer-Run Goals and Monetary Policy Strategy,” first adopted in 2012, that has informed the Fed’s approach to interest rates and general economic growth.

    As a practical matter, the move means the Fed will be less inclined to hike interest rates when the unemployment rate falls, so long as inflation does not creep up as well. Central bank officials traditionally have believed that low unemployment leads to dangerously higher levels of inflation, and they’ve moved preemptively to head it off.

    However, a speech Powell delivered to a virtual gathering of the Fed’s annual Jackson Hole, Wyoming, symposium, and accompanying documents that codified the new policy, signaled a shift away from the old thinking. The policymaking Federal Open Market Commitee approved the changes unanimously.

    “Many find it counterintuitive that the Fed would want to push up inflation,” Powell said in prepared remarks. “However, inflation that is persistently too low can pose serious risks to the economy.”

    Jerome Powell's 4-year term to the Fed chair position expires in 2022.


    So do you actually want to respond to any of that, or just deflect to Joe Biden in a thread about Donald Trump and his tenure and legacy?



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