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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    I've been following politics long enough to know only a fool would make a monetary bet where politics is involved.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    I'm one of the 60%. Not that he wouldn't do a great job again, but because of the fact it would cause democrats and their media handmaidens to go batshit crazy and waste all their time looking for reasons to destroy him again, and making up lies when they find none, and would be a detriment to the country. Then again what the democrats are doing to the country it might be a good thing for them to concentrate on nonsense rather destroying our nation.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,674 ✭✭✭✭everlast75




  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    plenty on here crowing about the bets they put on Trump. No sign of them since november.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,633 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Nothing to do with politics. It is being able to realise when you are being lied to and led down a path for the sake of someone elses benefit.

    You have taken the view that the election was stolen, without any shred of evidence. You are now in the position of saying that there are people doing some type of work, that may provide some evidence, without even acknowledging that accepting that proves that you have no evidence.

    If there was evidence there wouldn't be a need for this 'forensic audit'!

    Thats not politics. That allowing yourself to be so biased that you are open to any suggestion once it fits with your narrative.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    What then? I've noted the 'what then' numerous times. Create legislation to help ensure the problems in the 2020 election don't happen again. That is what the audit really is all about. People in AZ don't have confidence in a fair election in AZ right now, and that must be corrected.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Think drunkmonkey just about lost his/her lifesavings the way they were clinging onto hope that the election would somehow be called for Trump in the end.

    There were no problems such as Trump and his supporters allege in the 2020 election. If there were, get your evidence together and fight it in court? What's that? They already tried that? Did they win? No? Why? Cause they had no evidence, and they still have no evidence, and therefore the assertion that there were any major discrepancies is absolutely nothing more than a baseless assertion by Trump and his supporters in order to continue with this paranoid mindset that he is being kept out of power at all costs by the establishment.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I agree. It must be corrected.


    But I hate to say this man, your side aren’t the ones who are going to correct this perception. They are winding up the nonsense constantly that the election was stolen without any evidence.


    So, fine. Let’s get this audit done. Don’t properly mind you, not by a load of GOP cronies, and move on.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,300 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 15,633 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    What problems were there with the 2020 election? Apart from Trump losing obviously?

    'People in AZ'? What people? On what basis have they no confidence? If we are to accept this as a fact, which I doubt, then what would need to be done to get confidence back? Legislation alone cannot be the answer given that there is already legislation in place and apparently, according to you, the Dems ignored it and were supported by the entire courts system.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    I have to say I’m enjoying the narrative of its to ensure future elections are fair. It’s laughable that a party that are doing all they can to make sure they win by changing the rules rather winning extra votes are pretending that it’s democracy that they care about.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    Let's see the results of the forensic audit and see. Too many rush to judgements have already been undertaken in that screwed up election.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,437 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    too many rush to judgements? says the person who wants an audit but cannot say why apart from "I cant believe that biden won".



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,424 ✭✭✭notobtuse


    You're talking Democrats, right? They were the ones to change the voting rules on the fly, making it easier for corruption in the voting process to happen.

    You can ignorantly accuse me of "whataboutism," but what it really is involves identifying similar scenarios in order to see if it holds up when the shoe is on the other foot!



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Yes that’s what I’m talking about, you keep saying it and maybe someone will believe you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,633 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Again, what was screwed up in the election? What level of voter fraud do you think occurred? Why has nothing come to light this far out? What is taking the fraud team so long to produce even a hint of any evidence?

    At this point you'd expect them to have at least produced evidence of some fraud, such that a wider audit is required. But nothing. Not a single piece of evidence.

    You have already prejudged that the election was screwed up, without a single piece of evidence.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭Shebean



    It's feeding time at the zoo.

    A corrupt group of self interested people hired a con man to feed into the anxiety and conspiracy theories of the gullible.

    This 'stolen election' talk is the resulting insanity laid bare. Your democracy has been attacked and is being undermined by these people. Self interested GOPers are laughing at the gullible Republicans willing to kill and riot for their 'cause'.



  • Registered Users Posts: 19,287 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    This "election was stolen" shite has to be one of worst delusions that I've witnessed anyone on the web have.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In what way is a "forensic audit" not a bet on taxpayer's money? Not only is it a bet, it's a really, really awful bet based on the fact that official audits deemed it unnecessary, lawsuits deemed it unnecessary and the only people who want it to happen is a man child and his delusional sore losers who coincidentally only question election integrity when their man child loses.

    Sore losers that can't even define what a forensic audit is when asked. Sore losers that don't read a single paper about how widespread US voting fraud is not a thing when they are presented with many and instead just keep crying and whining with their fingers in their ears. Sore losers who stop replying about something when they're shown to be wrong, then come back peddling the same nonsense a few weeks later.

    Pathetic drivel from the usual "old mans yells at cloud" type. Absolute sheep.



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah one or two who flushed half their dole money for the week have been in the Biden thread and this one recently pretending that the withdrawal deal wasn't done by trump and calling for drone strikes to be made because that's what trump would done. Yes before you ask, they ignored the irony being pointed out to them that they spent the last few years falsely claiming that trump didn't order/allow drone strikes also when saying he would order drone strikes and Biden was terrible for not.

    BTW they have said in multiple threads about other topics, that they were on the dole at the time, so not just me making a catty remark.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭briany


    You have no right to objectively say that the election was screwed up while providing no supporting evidence. There is no consensus that supports your claim outside of fringe conspiracy theory. You're welcome to your opinion, but the facts as they stand are most certainly not on your side.

    I'm sure Trump supporters will be all too happy to accept the findings of Cyber Ninjas as fact. I mean, if a company whose owner is a noted Trump supporter can't find any major electoral fraud in favour of the Democrats then who can?



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Ah plenty of stupid things believed by his followers and pumped by him and other GOP members, such as covid being a hoax, the Democrats actually being socialist, BLM being a terrorist organization, not to mention the whole Q sh1t show.

    Now why they stupid enough and in some cases just twisted enough to believe these things is another question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,939 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Donald trump had a rally in Tennessee at the weekend and he said in public that he got the vaccine(which was interesting that he admitted that), but he suggested that his supporters get the vaccine and it was greeted with some boos from the crowd.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,363 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    Equal amounts of critical thinking as a flat earther



  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Was that not Alabama?

    Weird state where it is legal to own guns but not sex toys, and some towns have prohibition enforced on the weekends resulting in the moonshine tradition and backwoods drinking parties. Basically red neck heaven



  • Registered Users Posts: 39,939 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,292 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Will they be booing from their hospital beds in a few weeks time?



  • Registered Users Posts: 13,815 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Trump was careful to add that he respected the choice of anyone not to take the vaccine. Trying to walk the tightrope of appeal between his crazies and normal people.



  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    They won't be in icu beds anyway at there's no more available in Alabama. Great place to hold a rally.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,668 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I mean they ran multiple audits already and found no problem.

    But if the plan is to run a forensic audit, why are they employing a company unqualified in forensics who are carting the material from warehouse to warehouse and subjecting them to moisture via swamp coolers?

    I'd be surprised if the polling cards were still readable after all that yet alone being able to perform any forensics on them (which they can't as they're not actually qualified to do so).

    Do you see that it's all just a setup to arrive at some pre-conceived result? Are you really that naïve?



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