What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182268#Comment_118182268

Not good at all, no. It's a path that leads to the total destruction of a country, and that's not being dramatic. A country needs two properly functioning parties at least - the GOP is a cult, as you said, and the Democrats are confused and incompetent. Hard to know where this will end!

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182369#Comment_118182369

I wonder will his special dietary requirements still be met? Imagine serving time in federal prison, after your mother whinges to the world about his delicate tummy?

https://www.cbs17.com/news/national-news/man-known-as-qanon-shaman-appears-in-court-mom-says-he-can-only-eat-an-organic-diet/

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182994#Comment_118182994

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1461073375523229707?t=0V_Su3SvK06lHPV2cnhU4A&s=19

What hope is there when pond life like this get elected? Only managed 20 seconds but it was enough. It's just depressing.

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118183683#Comment_118183683

Its the kind of casual racism that's always been a part of society, but that's now mainstream again due to the rise of Trumpism. And it's saddening and worrying that people actually freely vote for people like that. Makes you wonder where things are headed in the States over the next few years.

everlast75

You can see that if people who don't have an ability for critical thinking *only* listen to her and cawthorn and Jordan and gaetz, then listen to Hannity and carlson who back them up, fall down that rabbit hole and believe that Biden has a body double, the democrats are socialists, the presidency is fake etc. etc.

Such people here, when presented with facts, go away, watch that bs which reinforces their belief, and come back again with more bs.

It happens time and again. They can't break out of the cycle. They'll lose friends and family and keep going.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118156347#Comment_118156347

All you claim was anecdotal, personal opinion. Loaded with conspiracies also found in the Trump Big Lie. Not different from the claims of the Pillow guy. Similar to the unsubstantiated and spurious talking points found in Fox and Friends. Absolutely no empirical, objective evidence to back up your claims. That's a BIG ZERO EVIDENCE for the BIG LIE. No evidence in over 60 cases presented by Trump lawyers, or Trump supporter lawyers, in state, federal, or US Supreme Court to support the claims in Trump's Big Lie. If you got any objective evidence, why don't you post it here, with citations for checking. But you will not. Because it does not exist.

Anyone for Trump Kool Aid? "Once upon a time" may it have been served at Trump University?

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118187557#Comment_118187557

What in the world are you talking about? Evidence to what that I commented on that you quoted?

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118188552#Comment_118188552

You have never provided any empirical evidence to any of your claims

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118183020#Comment_118183020

His attorney is an interesting chap

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1461165513506123777

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118189794#Comment_118189794

While he has an interesting turn of phrase for a lawyer , it's hard to disagree with the overall points he's making.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190017#Comment_118190017

it certainly isn't. doesn't make them an less guilty mind.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190023#Comment_118190023

Absolutely , Stupidity isn't a defence but more of this might go some way to breaking the connection between Trump and his "base".

Probably not though...

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190182#Comment_118190182

that was require rational decision making on the part of trump supporters so I'm sure you can see what that is unlikely.

Igotadose

In uninspiring news, Mitt's niece, head of the RNC, said that the #2xIMPOTUS lost.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/11/18/politics/ronna-mcdaniel-joe-biden/index.html

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118190756#Comment_118190756

Yeah , but she also said that they still needed to "talk about 2020" , so it's a mealy mouthed attempt and playing both sides.

Moving on without really moving on . Or more likely trying to move on without offending the brittle Trump ego.

Pathetic really.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118182164#Comment_118182164

Where I think America goes from here is that sooner or later freedom of speech is severely clamped down upon. The problem that western democracies face right now is freedom of thought and expression in a time where the Internet has made it so easy for disinformation to be rapidly spread. Where, in fact, there is a real business model to be built upon funnelling individuals or groups of people into their own customised version of reality. And this poses a real problem: how do you maintain a stable democracy where commonly held values and beliefs become endangered and people become very divided and lose interest in cooperation with their perceived enemies?

The Chinese approach has been to tightly lock the Internet down and generally come down like a tonne of bricks on those who speak out against the government, but is that a book we want to take a leaf out of?

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118188552#Comment_118188552

notobtuse quote: "The main goal of the recounts and investigations was to get legislation enacted so that the illegal and wretched actions taken in the 2020 election, making the election rife for abuses, doesn't happen again."

Rather than your anecdotal, personal opinion, do you have any objective, empirical evidence to substantiate your claims that "illegal and wretched actions taken in the 2020 election, making the election rife with abuses" in fact occurred in all, several, or even one of the several states that made Biden president per the US House and US Senate confirmation 6 January 2021, as chaired by (Republican) Vice President Pence? These election abuse claims can be found in the contents of Trump's frequently repeated BIG LIE. Please provide links to your unbiased objective evidence so that the rest of us can learn from your claims, or find them misleading or spurious.

Your objective evidence with links might help us address the OP question: "What does the future hold for Donald Trump?"

Fathom

notobtuse quote: "He'll continue to be a force in politics into the 2024 election and beyond because the media can't help themselves when it comes to their boogeyman."

Have you read Trump's The Art of the Deal? I have. Other than finding the ghost written book of poor quality, there were 2 pages of interest. He shows how to manipulate the news media (he calls it the "press") to his advantage by saying "sensationalist" things, and making "outrageous" claims to draw the news media to him, and showcase such things and claims. It is suggested in Trump's book that doing this benefits both him and the news media in terms of keeping him in the public eye for better chances of deal making, while improving news media ratings. A win-win for both.

Trump continued to say "sensationalist" things, and make "outrageous" claims that drew the news media as predicted in his book during the 2016 and 2020 presidential campaigns. The difference being exchanging a business audience for a political audience. And for the "future hold for Donald Trump"? Trump will continue with this news media attraction device until 2024, while not bothering to mention his Deal book quotes, but rather playing the victim of the news media and his "outrageous" claim that they are ruled by the opposing Democratic party.

As to your "boogeyman" spin, did you get that from Fox and Friends or Breitbart News talking points? It's been claimed by their spokespersons many times in the past years.

duploelabs

Must be your first time dealing with said poster, they won't answer direct challenges to their claims with any cogent rebuttal, or they'll take a break from the forum and return with complete amnesia to those previous challenges

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192632#Comment_118192632

As duploelabs said, save yourself the time, effort and inevitable heartache. notobtuse is coming from a very dark and deluded place - plus, they don't actually engage. They just post unsubstantiated nonsense and then take a little break. So its best not to engage.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192920#Comment_118192920

Understood. But there are other viewers of this thread per boards logs. Occasionally new. Or from outside membership. A lot more viewers than posters. It needs to be discussed for their benefit. Otherwise it just hangs there. To challenge a talking point made by past, present, and "future hold for Donald Trump," and his adoring followers, including BIG LIE supporting Fox and Friends. Plus, once in awhile a reporter for the Irish Times may be looking for material to report. Maybe to make a crazy deadline. And our future Trump discussions in this thread may draw their attention, because we make it easier to gather thoughts. I recall it being mentioned in past years that boards has been quoted or paraphrased by news media. It may not happen with this thread, but who knows?

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192632#Comment_118192632

I have done so several times. I don't think I need to repeat myself over and over again. Just look back at my prior postings.

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118192797#Comment_118192797

Hmmm... and here I thought boogeyman was my own original take on how the mainstream media views him.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193342#Comment_118193342

Honestly, the majority of your claims in recent times wouldn't have been out of place in the conspiracies forum...

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193342#Comment_118193342

You have never provided any evidence that stood up to any level of scrutiny.

People keep assuming that each time your ideas are debunked that it will show you the paucity of your position.

But instead you simply ignore it, wait a while, then repost another diatribe of already debunked nonsense.

If you had this great evidence you would have no problem showing everyone. You constantly post about how much a failure Biden is so having to post is not an issue.

But like himself, you simply spout some nonsense and then claim 'everyone knows it's.

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193417#Comment_118193417

All the things and source documents I provided stood up to the best of scrutiny. You just didn't like it. And there is nothing I can do about that.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193465#Comment_118193465

And there's the amnesia

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193465#Comment_118193465

So you have proven it, yet Trump has been unable to?

What are you doing wasting your time here, you should be at Mar o Lago leading the fightback.

Stood up? Jesus wept. You haven't a shred of evidence, you have nothing but conspiracy theories and cries of deep state and democratic party secret plots.

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118193518#Comment_118193518

I have provided ample evidence the Zuckenberg bucks were illegally used to target democrats almost exclusively to increase their voter turnout in swing states, and that election laws were broken. I'm sorry you don't like the facts.

Igotadose

Ex-Mrs. Newsome might've been involved in the insurrection financing, per Propublica. She apparently exchanged texts with Katrina "Bullet Necklace" Pierson, cum laude alum of Fox News, on the speakers. And, she channeled money from among others the Publix supermarket heirs. Follow the money, as always. Guilfoyle not yet subpoenaed by the 6 Jan committee, though this report might move that along.

https://www.propublica.org/article/texts-show-kimberly-guilfoyle-bragged-about-raising-millions-for-rally-that-fueled-capitol-riot