What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263616#Comment_118263616

Look at the things Trump claimed on the call.

He started off by claiming that he "must have won" because of the size of his rallies

So we’ve spent a lot of time on this, and if we could just go over some of the numbers, I think it’s pretty clear that we won. We won very substantially in Georgia. You even see it by rally size, frankly. We’d be getting 25-30,000 people a rally, and the competition would get less than 100 people. And it never made sense.

Then he moves on to "Forged Signatures"

We have at least 2 or 3 — anywhere from 250 to 300,000 ballots were dropped mysteriously into the rolls. Much of that had to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked. We think that if you check the signatures — a real check of the signatures going back in Fulton County — you’ll find at least a couple of hundred thousand of forged signatures of people who have been forged. And we are quite sure that’s going to happen.

Then he claims that 50,000 plus people were "turned away at the polling booths"

Another tremendous number. We’re going to have an accurate number over the next two days with certified accountants. But an accurate number will be given, but it’s in the 50s of thousands — and that’s people that went to vote and they were told they can’t vote because they’ve already been voted for. And it’s a very sad thing. They walked out complaining. But the number’s large. We’ll have it for you. But it’s much more than the number of 11,779 that’s — the current margin is only 11,779. Brad, I think you agree with that, right? That’s something I think everyone — at least that’s a number that everyone agrees on.

Then he rambles on about how other Republicans won but he didn't which means he must have won

And I know you would like to get to the bottom of it, although I saw you on television today, and you said that you found nothing wrong. I mean, you know, and I didn’t lose the state, Brad. People have been saying that it was the highest vote ever. There was no way. A lot of the political people said that there’s no way they beat me. And they beat me. They beat me in the . . . As you know, every single state, we won every state. We won every statehouse in the country. We held the Senate, which is shocking to people, although we’ll see what happens tomorrow or in a few days.

And we won the House, but we won every single statehouse, and we won Congress, which was supposed to lose 15 seats, and they gained, I think 16 or 17 or something. I think there’s a now difference of five. There was supposed to be a difference substantially more. But politicians in every state, but politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no way that they beat me in the election, that the people came out, in fact, they were expecting to lose, and then they ended up winning by a lot because of the coattails. And they said there’s no way, that they’ve done many polls prior to the election, that there was no way that they won.

Then we got the "Dead People"

The other thing, dead people. So dead people voted, and I think the number is close to 5,000 people. And they went to obituaries. They went to all sorts of methods to come up with an accurate number, and a minimum is close to about 5,000 voters.

Then "Burning Ballots" , which even he says "may not be True"

The bottom line is, when you add it all up and then you start adding, you know, 300,000 fake ballots. Then the other thing they said is in Fulton County and other areas. And this may or may not be true . . . this just came up this morning, that they are burning their ballots, that they are shredding, shredding ballots and removing equipment. They’re changing the equipment on the Dominion machines and, you know, that’s not legal.

And they supposedly shredded I think they said 300 pounds of, 3,000 pounds of ballots. And that just came to us as a report today. And it is a very sad situation.

He then rambles on about the same things in multiple other States , 220k more votes than people in PA , 139% turnout in Detroit and 18k Dead people in Michigan

Raffensberger then replies and goes through each one and calls them out for the Horsesh!t that they were, except he had actual facts and data instead on chat room conspiracy theories

Trump then responds , basically ignoring all the facts he's jsut been provided and goes back to claiming his Rallies mean he couldn't have lost

And I could tell you by our rallies. I could tell you by the rally I’m having on Monday night, the place, they already have lines of people standing out front waiting. It’s just not possible to have lost Georgia. It’s not possible. When I heard it was close, I said there’s no way.

It goes on and on like this with Raffensberger providing evidence supported by facts and data and Trump ignoring that and repeating his bulls!t.

Trump then suggested that the Georgia Bureau of Investigation and the FBI who investigated all the calims of dead people etc. were either incompetent or lying when they found no proof

Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

And round it round it goes Facts on one side and Trump saying "We've heard XYZ" on the other. Not a shred of evidence , not an iota of actionable information , just rambling tripe.

Followed by the infamous

So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You know, we have that in spades already. Or we can keep it going, but that’s not fair to the voters of Georgia because they’re going to see what happened, and they’re going to see what happened.

Read the whole thing yourselves , it's like a parent arguing with Kids over whether they can watch the late movie.

It's pathetic.

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263600#Comment_118263600

What reports are these? I don't recall him ever producing any reports? If he never produced these reports, how do you know he was getting them?

notobtuse

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118263995#Comment_118263995

Reports from data analyst Matt Braynard for one.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118264143#Comment_118264143

braynard worked for the trump campaign. what was he basing his conclusions on given that NONE of them were true?

notobtuse

IMO I think all the reasons given had as much if not more credibility than the Russian collusion information the Democrats used to impeach Trump. So if you look at Democrats as your guide for standards, apparently the bar is pretty low on information needed to make them actionable.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118264279#Comment_118264279

the reasons had no credibility. all of them were batted away with actual facts and figures on the phone call. braynard is still a proponent of "the big lie". even after Trump was shown the correct figures he still insisted that extra votes for were found. he didn't care if the figures were credible, he just wanted to steal the election.

Leroy42

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118264279#Comment_118264279

Thats all close are we are ever going to come to you accepting there in no basis.

You had to whataboutery to try to give yourself an excuse.

POTUS was using a report from a no name analyst rather than professionals, DOF, the FBI etc.

And you believed him?

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118260913#Comment_118260913

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118261505#Comment_118261505

"Jewess" is only a slur depending on who is using the term and why. If someone means it as a term of offence toward a female Jew, then the context is very different to that of someone making a neutral or positive reference to the same person.

Many Jews use the term, even Jewish women when referring to themselves. In fact there have been books, articles and magazines written by Jews with the word "Jewess" in the title.

It only fell out of favour after those on the right began using it as a derogatory term as a way to specifically put Jewish women down. It was used in such a way by the Nazis as a means to dehumanise.

The OED says that it is "outdated" and can be "offensive" and while yes, it is an outdated term, its offence depends on the context with which it is used.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118262795#Comment_118262795

It's just another buzzword to use on stupid people and they'll lap it up.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118264143#Comment_118264143

This Matt Braynard??

Matt Braynard is the executive director of Look Ahead America, which describes itself as “an America First nonprofit dedicated to standing up for patriotic Americans who have been forgotten by our government.” 

And his "analysis" was complete and utter tripe, It fell apart under about 5 minutes of questioning.

At first, the hearing went smoothly for Braynard, who has the professional presentation of a data specialist. But then came state Rep. Bee Nguyen, a Democrat from Atlanta. It turns out she had been doing her own research. Citing an exhibit filed by Braynard that listed people who had voted but who supposedly had registered in Georgia and another state, she pointed out that several names were duplicated on the list. Then she said that she had looked up the first 10 names on the list and had found eight of these people listed in Georgia property records as residents. She reached one of them on the phone, she said, and he confirmed that he lived and voted only in Georgia. Nguyen said she verified this person’s voting record. 

8 of the 1st 10 names in his list had voted perfectly and the link above shows how each and everyone of his conclusions were utterly false.

So , a debunked report from a conspiracy theory loon who thinks that the rioters on January 6th are "Tremendous people" , that's Trumps evidence???

At least he's kept himself busy since then , organising rallies supporting those "tremendous people".

Fathom

Biden has declared he is running in 2024. So Trump knows whom he will be running against.

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118265330#Comment_118265330

It will be hilarious when Biden beats him for a second time!

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118264143#Comment_118264143

Matt Braynard? Is this former Donald Trump paid campaign staffer and organizer a reliable "data analyst" source? Any confirmation bias in reports?

Is this the same Matt Braynard that appeared on Steve Bannon’s podcast, Bannon’s War Room, claiming there was no January 6 insurrection, and claiming it was peaceful, and conveniently overlooked the injuries and deaths occurring during this multiple video recorded unlawful violent and forceable break-in to the US Capitol building, while the US Congress was doing their constitutional duty, as presided by Republican VP Mike Pence? And is this WAR ROOM host the same Steve Bannon, whom has been charged with contempt of Congress for refusing to testify under oath about January 6? The same Bannon that obviously has nothing to hide under oath? No confirmation bias in the contents of Bannon's War Room, Bannon yet another close former advisor to Donald Trump?

Penn

Person paid by Trump to tell Trump what he wants to hear tells Trump what he wants to hear.

I'm shocked his claims then didn't hold up in court. Shocked, I say!

PropJoe10

Just watched that Mark Meadows episode again and its beyond belief. Meadows writes book saying one thing. Trump comes out and says Meadows is wrong. Meadows then says his own book is wrong to placate the Great Leader. Why are these people so afraid of this narcissistic liar? It's like a sad pantomime written for idiots.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118265477#Comment_118265477

Were these the same Trump BIG LIE claims that failed in over 60 court cases in multiple state, federal, and the US Supreme, where there were both Republican and Democrat appointed judges, and before a US Supreme stacked with Republican appointed judges, including three Trump appointments? And was Trump BIG LIE evidence missing during the adjudication of over these 60 court cases, as now claimed by today's Trump BIG LIE supporters, whom have conveniently ignored the multiple 2020 election audits in states Trump lost, including the recent Cyber Ninjas Arizona election audit paid for by the Republican controlled state Arizona senate, where nothing was found by the Ninjas that would support the overturn of the state election results per their report? Confirming the same fair election results reported by Trump's (Republican) US Attorney General William Barr, after an investigation of the evidence after the 2020 election by the US Department of Justice.

Yet Trump, and his adoring supporters, continues to conveniently ignore these overwhelming court, multiple state audit results, and the investigation of the US Department of Justice in his (undeclared) 2024 presidential campaign BIG LIE platform?

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/didikins4life/status/1466248908850532357?s=19

Trump supporters...what a surprise.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118266865#Comment_118266865

And his parents who have been charged have gone missing.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118265330#Comment_118265330

He was always going to say that tbf. Its a ballsy bet that both he and Trump will be about in a few years, both are very old and while Trump is a little younger, he has never treated his body like a temple.

Biden is 9/4 or with the bookies to win the dem nomination so its far from a done deal.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118267052#Comment_118267052

Haha. I know theres been some unreal posts around Donald trump over the past few years, but saying he never treated his body as a temple is an understatement. Biden may be older but he’s clearly in better physical shape then trump.

Rjd2

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118267082#Comment_118267082

Oh yeah I didn't want to sound mean as I ate an absolutely rotten takeaway earlier 😶

Crap jokes aside, supposedly Trump has got himself in slightly better shape these days which is a sensible idea, although obviously it's a little late in the day to fix a terrible lifelong diet.

Biden is in good shape for a 78 year old, but nonetheless he is near 80 and doing an incredibly stressful job. I think he'd be delighted to hand it over to Harris if he had any faith in her regarding 2024 but there isn't much to suggest she would beat a Trump/De Santis/Hailey etc.

Absurd that these 2 dudes who will be pushing 80 are betting favs to represent their respective parties in 2024 though.

Strumms

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118265330#Comment_118265330

by the next election Biden will be 82... leaving office if successful he’ll be 86.... he’s looking very much the erm ‘elder statesman’....

Trump will be 77... leaving if successful he’ll be 81...

Biden’s stock is slightly falling... mainly to do with the economy and inflation. Also the millions of jobs lost..ok Covid was the reason but the gun will be pointed at Joe...

it is sure to play directly into the hands of Trump and his supporters..Trump a business guy...

if there is an election tomorrow I think It’s touch and go...His approval rating last month was 42%... that said, Donald’s rating 4 years ago was 37% so you never know...

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118265932#Comment_118265932

It makes no difference to these people. Trump is right, and everyone else is wrong. It's the 21st century version of Jim Jones or Adolf Hitler.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118268231#Comment_118268231

When Trump runs in 2024, the Republicans in control today of many state legislatures will have redistricted enough state areas to increase the likelihood of a small majority in the 2022 US House elections, consistent with their passage of voting restriction laws on mail-in ballots, reducing the number of ballot boxes in urban areas, reducing voting days and hours open, reducing cut off dates for counting votes, and will probably have the Trump Brown Shirts out near voting stations with assault rifles and hand guns displayed.

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118269250#Comment_118269250

I think he'll win in 2024, for exactly the reasons you just mentioned. That'll then be the end of the US as a functioning democracy. He'll spend the 4 years purging the legislature of anyone that isn't part of his flock and settling scores - he'll then probably just either appoint a successor, or else stay on himself until he dies.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118267262#Comment_118267262

America has over 330 million citizens. Why cannot they elect a president that has a lesser risk of health problems?

As to presidential performance polls, Biden has not completed his first year in office out of 4. He has at least one more year before the Dems lose control of the House and Senate after the 2022 elections (historically this tends to happen to sitting presidents during mid-terms). Passage of the recent trillion plus dollar hard infrastructure bill and its recent signing by Biden should gradually build construction and technology job numbers, significantly reduce unemployment, increase spending by more employed workers, reduce citizen debt and housing foreclosures, and noticeably improve roads, bridges, WWW, etc. Presidential poll percentages should improve at the same time, no matter what Republican adverse marketing campaigns dream up about Biden's age, health, or CRT nonsense in schools. At the same time the supply management issues with cargo ships sitting off US ports, container carrying equipment shortages, and trucker shortages should be mitigated. Increased supply affecting the supply-and-demand model should reduce costs to the consumer, as well as the cost of living.

Additionally, Trump's stacking/stuffing of the US Supreme Court with Republican justices, having appointed 3, to where they are now in the clear majority, will result in the overturning of Roe v Wade before 2024. The majority of women in today's America have approved of Roe v Wade, and with its protections removed by the court should get them out in great numbers voting against Trump in 2024. Biden will champion those protections in 2024, and Trump cannot pretend to be in favor of women's rights after stuffing the court, no matter how many times he sends Ivanka out to campaign otherwise. If Trump is smart, he will have a female VP running mate like Biden in hopes of drawing some Republican women.

My guess. In 2024 Biden's performance polls will average roughly 51 percent. Much higher than Trump.

everlast75

What a ****ing idiot!!

Billy Mays

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118270910#Comment_118270910

Finally the f*cking moron gets something right

extra gravy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118270910#Comment_118270910

Double negatives can clearly be difficult to grasp for people with tiny brains.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118271019#Comment_118271019

I'm so negative. You wouldn't believe how negative I am. I'm.. the doctors .. they said, mister president, you are the most negative person from COVID, is a miracle. So y'know, crooked Hilary. She .. and the fake media.. they don't.. our boys fighting wars for.. against the swamp and biden... They are negative too. So negative that the lightbulbs aren't.. but crooked Hilary... She's the bad kind of negative. She they won't... Liberal tech companies... Don't... Sad. God bless America and God bless me