What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428640#Comment_120428640

No, you're not the certain quarters. But you know who are. It's the same type that will try and twist anything to pull the wool over others eyes in an effort to deflect from more pressing matters.

As for troublesome, I see nothing whatsoever that's troublesome in what Pelosi said. But, as I've mentioned, what's actually troublesome is the fact that certain quarters (not you) that have already proven their bad faith time and time again have tried to engage in twisting someone's words in order to protect their cult leader.

In any case, this will all be forgotten by tomorrow and what Pelosi said won't mean a tinkers cuss to anyone.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428561#Comment_120428561

Shutting down lies and misinformation.

How awful.

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428686#Comment_120428686

No, you're not the certain quarters.

Thanks for that at least Tony😉

Look, to rational people? Pelosi's tweet doesn't matter a fúck. The problem is the irrational folk, the Trumper's who hold the constitution dear.

It's not just the appointed judges that take literalist/teleological views of anything said contrary to their Orange messiah.

These folk put the same effort into spinning out Pelosi's tweet as Alito did when he cited Matthew Hale in the judgement that struck down Roe V Wade.

I know my point on what Pelosi is pedantic, in a sane world everyone would grasp her point.

The thing is that we are dealing with folk who are comfortable twisting a narrative to suit their vision of the world and their persecution.

The phrasing Nancy used was a gift on that front. They only need to recite the 2nd sentence and ignore the context to have Trump be the victim. Sane and rational folk know what was meant, my boring near treatise on different burden is more to highlight why and how that thread will be pulled, than it is a criticism of Pelosi or god forbid support for the local hotel owner in legal jeopardy in NY 🤷‍♀️

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428714#Comment_120428714

Trumper's hold the constitution dear? What?

Look, I couldn't a fuck what Trump cultists think or say. I'll put it bluntly. They have long, LONG, since shown that they care for nothing except getting one up on the "other side", whatever that happens to mean on a given day. So they're input is meaningless.

It's especially meaningless in this matter, because it's (as I said earlier) a storm in a teacup that will be dissipated as soon as the next news cycle comes along.

banie01

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428828#Comment_120428828

I should perhaps have put that in /s 😉

They don't we know they don't, they know they don't but? They love to drap themselves in it and point re: Pelosi is that she gifted them a "literal" sentence, that only needs context ignored. Rather than their usual twisting.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428100#Comment_120428100

You're pouring more gas on it than anyone else you are alluding to in the thread.

Water John

Discussing Pelosi here is classic whataboutery. Don't think she was present when Trump was running around in the nip.

archermoo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120428640#Comment_120428640

No, that is in fact not how it is phrased. She didn't say "you will have to prove your innocence at trial". She literally posted "No one is above the law, and everyone has the right to a trial to prove innocence." Nothing in there even implies that the burden of proof is on him. Just that he has the right to be heard in court so that he can show everyone that he is innocent. I get that the turn of phrase isn't one that you're used to. I get tripped up all the time by phrases that are common in Ireland that I didn't grow up with. But the one she used is a very common concept in the US. And despite their claims otherwise all the MAGA talking heads are well aware of what it means. But they hate Pelosi with a passion, and so do everything they can to twist anything she says.

Water John

A bit of background on the judge Trump will meet on Tuesday.

https://www.rte.ie/news/us/2023/0401/1367674-donald-trump-judge-juan-merchan/

charlie_says

Democrats get what they want, Trump vs their candidate in the general.

It's a gamble.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/_NotAbouThaBase/status/1642201963042418688?s=20

It's an awful shame....

Snake Plisken

New York is a basket case! And democrat running the show are abusing the justice system Imagine jailing a guy for sending a meme!

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1641907970547097603?s=19

sydthebeat

I think you dropped your "whataboutery" there snake....

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430312#Comment_120430312

What does that have to do with new York? It was a federal crime. Trump was indicted by the manhattan DA who is not a federal prosecutor. Another spectacular own goal Snake. Probably best to read what you repost BEFORE you repost it.

mcmoustache

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430312#Comment_120430312

Let me guess, you think Biden was President when that investigation was started?

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430330#Comment_120430330

The Prosecution couldnt find one victim to testify.

The real solution to the Mackey misinformation scheme would be to educate Democrat voters on how to vote LEGALLY.

Its the utter hypocrisy of the Democrats , they are weaponising the legal system for political gain.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430312#Comment_120430312

New York is in good hands, first they had Emmy Award winning Andrew Cuomo as Governor, who many on here were lauding as a the possible next President and holding him up as a paradigm of great leadership during Covid.

Now they have this Bragg chap as DA.

I predict it wont end well for Bragg.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430791#Comment_120430791

On what information do you form this basis?

Ramasun

I just lost a bet he wouldn't get charged. I'm gonna need to see the Credit Union if he spends any time in custody.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430850#Comment_120430850

It's "loveable rogues" that we normally love.

There is nothing loveable, nor even charming about Trump.

Edit:

People are genuinely concerned about the creeping onset of socialism in America

It's funny you say this, when his first attack ad is to go AFTER DeSantis for cutting Medicare twice. If they were really against socialism, they should be aiming to get rid of it entirely, and be proud of it.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430850#Comment_120430850

Welcome, new poster. The twitter files were a nothingburger.

The oligarchs you talk about, don't live in Washington (unless you meant Bill Gates, who does, but that's Washington states.) Politicians are in Washington. Actually, Jeff Bezos lives in Washington state, too, so that's two of them.

Trump widened the divide and continues to do so. It's all he has. All he accomplished in his tenure was signing off on a tax cut. Then, after the GOP lost the house, that was it.

American politics has 3 basic issues; The economy, guns, and abortion. That's what gets the voters stirred up, both the Democrats and Republicans know this and work this. Health care is something the Democrats try to do something about, and the GOP want to make worse.

I don't see much arguing about Qanon - they're loonies? Is there an argument? Likewise, what's the argument about Jan 6? Well documented, thousands of convictions and countings, and some fairly serious ones yet to come (Proud bois, three percenters are on the legal clock afaik.)

I agree, Americas problems with health care and income distributions predate this POTUS or his predecessors. What would you suggest the current POTUS does (and I think that discussion is better on the Biden thread.) IMO without something that eliminates the Health Insurance industry in the US nothing will change.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430850#Comment_120430850

Admits that people in America view socialism with suspicion, yet presents all of the ills of unfettered capatilism in the same post.

Trump is not like here because he is a stupid ignorant racist hate filled narcissist.

What's to like??

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430909#Comment_120430909

So you knowingly admit that he and his family are corrupt, and he himself is stupid and ignorant yet you'd still vote for him.

What hope has the world got these days?

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120430909#Comment_120430909

There are several running for the GOP nomination right now. At least one, Vivek Ramaswamy, is a Washington outsider with none of the proven corruption you decry for Trump and his family, yet would vote for Trump anyway (have a look in the mirror about that). Donate early and often and improve his chances.

https://www.vivek2024.com/

Muahahaha

Trumps arrest will be 7.15pm our time on Tuesday which is perfect timing to watch whilst having dinner. In tribute to him and his supporters Im going to cook myself a nothingburger, it just seems so appropriate 👍️

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431015#Comment_120431015

Wasn't there something about... um... a laptop or something. And something about some innocent tourists being arrested.

I have a vague recollection (much like them)

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431033#Comment_120431033

Some buttery males too

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431016#Comment_120431016

"Republican mouthpieces fire up their base saying the commies are coming for your guns which is nonsense as it would take a change in the constitution which will never happen. That all trans people are the devil and mentally ill.

On the other side:

Trans activists barge and occupy capitol buildings while sessions are on.

The press secretary for the president saying we have to protect trans people"

They are the same to you?

Good lord.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431182#Comment_120431182

Yes, but this is wildly and hilariously off topic.

Oh no, the dancing drags queens are the problem, not the corruption, the crimes, the guns, the banning of books, the attack on the rights of women and minorities.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120431228#Comment_120431228

Were they fabulously trying to disrupt that session of congress?