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    #1832
    Tell me how
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    And yet the constitution says Trump is innocent.

    Does it? Where?


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    #1833
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Does it? Where?

    What he said is protected by free speech.
    What he said did not amount to incitement.
    Impeachment removes one from office, he was already gone.
    Therefore impeachment is inappropriate.


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    #1834
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    What he said is protected by free speech.
    What he said did not amount to incitement.
    Impeachment removes one from office, he was already gone.
    Therefore impeachment is inappropriate.

    Funny the majority of senators disagree with your interpretation of the constitution of the USA.


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    #1835
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Funny the majority of senators disagree with your interpretation of the constitution of the USA.

    I think they wish it didn’t exist.


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    #1836
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    Trump - not guilty.

    2-0.

    What does the future hold for him? This might be an indication and to quote Mr. Trump on what he said only hours ago, "Make America Great Again has only begun".

    Whether it will be The Donald or some other Trump, roll on 2024.

    The Trump's haven't gone away!

    God Bless the Trump Family.


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    #1837
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    Tell me how wrote: »
    Funny the majority of senators disagree with your interpretation of the constitution of the USA.

    The majority didn't convict him though, therefore he is innocent.


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    #1838
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    stefanovich wrote: »
    What he said is protected by free speech.
    What he said did not amount to incitement.
    Impeachment removes one from office, he was already gone.
    Therefore impeachment is inappropriate.

    * it is not
    * yes it was
    * not correct
    * again not correct
    Real Donald Trump wrote: »
    They certainly weren't condemning it though, and that lasted for months on end, all for political reasons.

    Biden condemned the violence many times... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-violent-protests-several-times/6576824002/


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    #1839
    PalLimerick
    Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭PalLimerick


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    * it is not
    * yes it was
    * not correct
    * again not correct



    Biden condemned the violence many times... https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/01/07/fact-check-joe-biden-has-condemned-violent-protests-several-times/6576824002/


    Trump also condemned the Capitol rioters many times it's on video. He also said any protest has to be peaceful, that's also on record.

    But we'll ignore all that because it doesn't suit certain agendas.


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    #1840
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The majority didn't convict him though, therefore he is innocent.

    2/3 was needed I believe.


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    #1841
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    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The majority didn't convict him though, therefore he is innocent.

    The majority did convict him though.

    Is this all a little complicated for you?


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    #1842
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    PalLimerick wrote: »
    The majority didn't convict him though, therefore he is innocent.

    Majority did convict. 57 out of 100 is majority. Its far bigger percentage than voted for Brexit or Trump to become president in 2016.


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    #1843
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    rossie1977 wrote: »
    Majority did convict. 57 out of 100 is majority. Its far bigger percentage than voted for Brexit or Trump to become president in 2016.

    According to the rules of impeachment Trump won. It’s 2/3 for a reason. To stop partisan actions like this.


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    #1844
    rossie1977
    Registered Users Posts: 11,359 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    stefanovich wrote: »
    According to the rules of impeachment Trump won. It’s 2/3 for a reason. To stop partisan actions like this.

    The case against Trump was a slam dunk. The fact that many Republicans are still caught up in the cult of Trump is on them. Basically it was like trying to convict kkk members when half the jurors and judge were kkk.

    Ultimately doesn't matter anyway. Republicans decided to stand by a guy that has overseen them lose the house, senate and presidency and brought so much heat on the party thats its very possible we never see another Republican being elected to the office of president.


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    #1845
    stefanovich
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    rossie1977 wrote: »
    The case against Trump was a slam dunk. The fact that many Republicans are still caught up in the cult of Trump is on them. Basically it was like trying to convict kkk members when half the jurors and judge were kkk.

    Ultimately doesn't matter anyway. Republicans decided to stand by a guy that has overseen them lose the house, senate and presidency and brought so much heat on the party thats its very possible we never see another Republican being elected to the office of president.

    It mattered enough for the democrats to bring the article of impeachment.
    Does it bother you that they rushed the impeachment and then Pelosi held on to the article of impeachment until Trump was a private citizen so Trump would have less protection?
    Does it bother you that very partisan Leahy presided rather than the neutral Chief Justice as is the rules?


    They wanted to prevent him running again. Bringing the country together was all talk. They further riled up 50% of the population with this.
    Couple it with silencing of conservative opinion on social media and the right feel more and more disenfranchised.


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    #1846
    stefanovich
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    rossie1977 wrote: »
    The case against Trump was a slam dunk.

    It wasn’t though. How did he incite? He specifically said to be non violent.

    More of this leftist game of imagining what people think rather than listening to what people say.


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    #1847
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    It mattered enough for the democrats to bring the article of impeachment.
    Does it bother you that they rushed the impeachment and then Pelosi held on to the article of impeachment until Trump was a private citizen so Trump would have less protection?
    Does it bother you that very partisan Leahy presided rather than the neutral Chief Justice as is the rules?


    They wanted to prevent him running again. Bringing the country together was all talk. They further riled up 50% of the population with this.
    Couple it with silencing of conservative opinion on social media and the right feel more and more disenfranchised.

    McConnell wouldnt let the impeachment go ahead while he was majority leader in the senate. That's why it was delayed.

    You are incredibly uninformed on all of this.


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    #1848
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    It wasn’t though. How did he incite? He specifically said to be non violent.

    More of this leftist game of imagining what people think rather than listening to what people say.

    Been here. Already showed how.
    Majority of senators believed he invited the violence.
    Even some who voted to acquit.
    Your boy did it.


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    #1849
    Kermit.de.frog
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    rossie1977 wrote: »
    The case against Trump was a slam dunk.

    And what about the likes of AOC and the left egging on and excusing violence, burning, thuggery and assault in cities across the United States?

    I'm as far from a Trump supporter as you can get but some of the hypocrisy is astounding.


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    #1850
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And what about the likes of AOC and the left egging on and excusing violence, burning, thuggery and assault in cities across the United States?

    I'm as far from a Trump supporter as you can get but some of the hypocrisy is astounding.

    If you think supporting calls for protests against police brutality is the same as what Trump did, you're delusional.

    They are in no way comparable.


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    #1851
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    If you think supporting calls for protests against police brutality is the same as what Trump did, you're delusional.

    They are in no way comparable.

    Careful now, that's not what I said as you know well. I'm not talking about "protest".

    I'm talking about violence, burning and vandalism.

    The silence is deafening from those foremost accusing Trump and his fellow travellers.

    People see this, they know it. They aren't stupid.


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    #1852
    12gauge dave
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And what about the likes of AOC and the left egging on and excusing violence, burning, thuggery and assault in cities across the United States?

    I'm as far from a Trump supporter as you can get but some of the hypocrisy is astounding.

    The hypocrisy is crazy isn't it.

    Hopefully people will start seeing through it soon.


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    #1853
    listermint
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    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    And what about the likes of AOC and the left egging on and excusing violence, burning, thuggery and assault in cities across the United States?

    I'm as far from a Trump supporter as you can get but some of the hypocrisy is astounding.

    The notion you have about yourself being far from a trump supporter is amusing.

    You collect many fond memories of trump over the course of his presidency with sprinklings of negative trump. You aren't as far as you think btw. Just for some clarity.

    And that's not saying your a maga flag waver. Just a fondness for what he does.


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    #1854
    stefanovich
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    listermint wrote: »
    The notion you have about yourself being far from a trump supporter is amusing.

    You collect many fond memories of trump over the course of his presidency with sprinklings of negative trump. You aren't as far as you think btw. Just for some clarity.

    And that's not saying your a maga flag waver. Just a fondness for what he does.

    It’s called being moderate. Seeing the good and the bad.


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    #1855
    joe40
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    12gauge dave wrote: »
    The hypocrisy is crazy isn't it.

    Hopefully people will start seeing through it soon.

    You had the current president, claiming that the senate were about to sign in an illegitimate president. He was undermining the bedrock of the American democratic system.

    No sitting president has ever behaved in such a way, to actively agitate that the election was stolen as a result of widespread fraud, and the president elect should not be sworn in.

    It was a new low for America.

    But yeah keep the whataboutery going, I suppose that is the only argument that remains.


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    #1856
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    joe40 wrote: »
    You had the current president, claiming that the senate were about to sign in an illegitimate president.

    Clinton literally did that 4 years ago.


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    #1857
    joe40
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    Clinton literally did that 4 years ago.

    Clinton conceded on the night of the election and phoned Trump to do so.

    Are you serious with that statement.


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    #1858
    Patrick2010
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    Clinton literally did that 4 years ago.

    She conceded victory to Trump on the night and didn’t organize a mob to attack the senate, slight difference


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    #1859
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    She conceded victory to Trump on the night and didn’t organize a mob to attack the senate, slight difference

    She spent 4 years saying Trump colluded with the Russians. He didn’t. She lied.


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    #1860
    Patrick2010
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    stefanovich wrote: »
    She spent 4 years saying Trump colluded with the Russians. He didn’t. She lied.

    Except that he did


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    #1861
    stefanovich
    Registered Users Posts: 5,490 ✭✭✭stefanovich


    Patrick2010 wrote: »
    Except that he did

    https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/706385781/mueller-report-finds-evidence-of-russian-collusion

    No it didn’t.


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