What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120703708#Comment_120703708

And as years have been put into some of these investigations, maybe there is now a bit of a rush to get them through the courts before Nov ‘24 as if he was elected president there would be yet another 4 year delay.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120703537#Comment_120703537

He announced his run months earlier than necessary BECAUSE he knew he was going to get charged so that he could claim "Political witch hunt" to deflect from the fact that he is a criminal, a con man and a sexual predator.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120703205#Comment_120703205

The timing was on trump's side, he announced early knowing the indictments were coming.

Out of interest, do you read or watch any news? Genuinely, as that was hard to miss at the time, and firmly believe that you're playing naiive to try and deflect again.

everlast75

We have been over this.

While in office, he used it as a shield against any sort of case, be it civil or criminal.

Then we he got out of office, he announced very early that he was running for president again.

Yes, it is highly suspicious that all parties seeking to sue or prosecute him did not do so in that extremely small window of time.

Why is it always someone else's fault?

Why can't it actually be what it is - he is an incredibly corrupt person and the pigeons are finally coming home to roost.

Penn

If I may ask rapidash, when would have been the best time for these lawsuits/investigations to happen? When would have been the time where his supporters wouldn't have thought they had anything to do with Trump running again even before he announced he was? How long should these investigations have taken? And given the fact that these lawsuits/investigations are a mix of civil, state and federal, over different jurisdictions, what collaboration should have happened between all judicial and investigatory parties in order to space things out so it wouldn't look like there was a concerted effort to impact Trump running again?

Because if anything, any kind of concerted effort to spread things out would have looked more like it was being done to prevent Trump winning again.

PropJoe10

Just watching an interview with Michael Cohen on MSNBC, who seems to think that Trump/Kushner were passing some confidential info to the Saudis about Iran. The possibilities there are endless, and could certainly explain why Mohammed Bin-Salman made a large payment to Kushner. Obviously there's plenty of business reasons for a payment of that nature but it would make you wonder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c55Q4vgkofQ

Agent Coulson

So the former President of America may have sold classified secrets to state that helped fund 9/11.

I wonder how MAGA would defend that if it is proven.

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704511#Comment_120704511

THAT would probably be the thing that would bury him. And ONLY that. That would also get him locked up.

I doubt they could prove that though.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704511#Comment_120704511

The general response seems to be “but Hillary”

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704511#Comment_120704511

They simply won’t believe it. They’ll just convince themselves he’s been framed and it’s a conspiracy to protect the paedophile ring that runs America.

astrofool

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704674#Comment_120704674

It's not that they don't believe it, it's that they don't care. The narrative already is that it's awful and a witch hunt with very little about whether trump is innocent or not.

The same thing happened with watergate and they're still sore about it.

But this is going to be more and more common as the GOP try and run a country with a minority.

It's also a series of really stupid actions by donald, like dumber than partying at the government offices during a lockdown stupid.

Again, the GOP don't care how stupid they are or how stupid they show themselves up to be to everyone else and the world.

Patrick2010

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704565#Comment_120704565

And Hunter

Overheal

I noticed something funny in the right wing spin. They’re like ah if they prove even one charge he will “die in prison”

well hang on, we have a slew of examples of people getting charged with the espionage act; I’m pretty sure their average prison sentence was only about… 4 years. Reality Winner got 63 months.

Are they admitting their candidate would die of old age before 2028? Doesn’t that make him a completely non viable candidate? And this is Turley saying this, he was a big time instrument in defending Trump from impeachment. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/05/opinions/turley-impeachment-flip-flop-avlon/index.html

Shame his health has deteriorated so rapidly from the time Dr. Ronny Jackson certified he was the fittest human being alive something something

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-legal-analyst-spells-out-peril-for-trump-he-could-die-in-prison-if-prosecution-proves-just-one-count/

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120704511#Comment_120704511

bUt bIdEn fEll...

Overheal

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-indictment-violence-the-donald-mass-killing-1234768146/

“Why are we talking about anything but dragging the political elite out of their homes and setting them on fire?”

everlast75

Not guilty by reason of insanity might be on the cards...

sydthebeat

why didnt he make america great the time he was president?

is he admitting to being a failure?

PropJoe10

Something I don't understand is why the GOP people are still going on about Hillary Clinton not being indicted. Trump was president for 4 years, and the GOP held the House & Senate for 2 years of that. If there was a case to answer by Clinton, why didn't they direct the DOJ to open a case against her? And I don't want to hear that the GOP are noble and didn't want to divide the country. Trump has made a political career out of dividing the country.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705818#Comment_120705818

you see - Trump had them all on the run, as soon as he was elected the RINO traitors scuppered his efforts to make america great again, so despite the fact that he had the white house, the house and the senate for two whole years, meant he lost the house in 2018. Then the people he replaced them with.. get this! - turned out to be incompetent RINOs too! So when he ran in 2020, they were working against him, so he lost - but here's the thing - He didn't really! So then he went to the courts - and wouldn't you know it, even those appointed by his nibs, ruled against him! Imagine that? How ungrateful!? Do they not understand the term "quid pro quo"? Not that I've ever done one of those cough. So anyway...

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705833#Comment_120705833

Your logic is useless against these bozos. You can't reason someone out of something they weren't reasoned into.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705833#Comment_120705833

They DID direct MULTIPLE cases open against her. They all whiffed.

z80CPU

Trump aquittal would be "corrosive" to national security (and international image too)

https://youtu.be/GHjtyG5Ou2k

TheIrishGrover

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120705834#Comment_120705834

Y'know, the most startling thing about that post is that it IS what trump thinks. It really is. And the pic is perfect (I can hear Charlie's voice saying it). Not only is it what he thinks, it's what he SAID. It IS what the trumpbutts and buttrumps have said on this very thread before. Anyone who is not a trumpette is a RINO who is working to take him down. Remember when they said Liz Cheney is a RINO? Fun times...... idiots.

2011

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-tXafdTrgI

Bolton makes some interesting points

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120706289#Comment_120706289

He does, but, and if I can use some unparliamentary language, as far as I am concerned, he can go **** himself.

He had the opportunity to testify and he didn't.

He decided instead to write a book, so he can take his book and shove it.

Overheal

Nazis, stand back and stand by.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/gop-congressman-walks-back-apparent-call-for-insurrection-calls-trump-indictment-entrapment-staging-they-want-j6-again/

Not sure what "deep commo" is supposed to mean yet.

Accusing the FBI of setting a trap for them because, they themselves said things like "Buckle up. 1/50K know your bridges. Rock steady calm. That is all."

The chucklefux wanted there to be riots in Miami tomorrow until a couple nights sleep over the weekend had them realizing hey, there might be direct consequences for that, and it won't get you anything you want anyway. This isn't Congress, or January 6, this isn't a constitutionally appointed day or session that will throw us into a crisis if a bunch of Nazis set the courthouse on fire and delay the proceedings for a day or a week or even a month, the justice department and the courts will still be waiting to process the indictment. If anything violence on their end would only ensure it all but certainly changes venues to somewhere more secure, and along with it would probably see the removal of the case under Trump-appointed and captured judge, Aileen Cannon.

https://www.newsweek.com/calls-grow-investigate-aileen-cannon-ruling-humiliates-trump-judge-1766554

Patrick2010

How on earth of all the possible judges that could have been appointed Aileen Cannon was selected?

Overheal

If this case is so political, such a hitjob, a witch hunt, and legally defective: why can't he find any lawyers? Most Republican politicians, are lawyers. A fair number of pundits and Trump surrogates, are lawyers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI_gBqj5mL4

I'm sure 'teflon don' will have some excuse for his cult about why that is the case, but it's not a good look.

briany

@Overheal

I noticed something funny in the right wing spin. They’re like ah if they prove even one charge he will “die in prison”

They almost say that like it's a bad thing.

If this case is so political, such a hitjob, a witch hunt, and legally defective: why can't he find any lawyers? Most Republican politicians, are lawyers. A fair number of pundits and Trump surrogates, are lawyers.

Interesting question, actually, because it would potentially be a good opportunity for a sycophant to get themselves a bit of notoriety within the Trump cult. OK, maybe they'd know they're fighting a losing battle, but it's not really them in the firing line. Did Trump's previous legal team quit because they thought the case was unwinnable? Couldn't be that simple because you'll get lawyers representing even people who go on a shooting spree and other very obvious crimes. You still need to have someone to test the case against a defendant, even a slam dunk one. Were Trump's previous legal team afraid of being implicated in his doings in some way?

https://www.reuters.com/legal/who-is-trump-attorney-1-lawyer-evan-corcorans-key-role-indictment-2023-06-12/

This article would give at least some weight to the idea above. Not as if it would be the first time that Trump's associates were as dirty as he was. Still, there's an opportunity for some industrious young lawyer to take up Trump's case, if only for the money. Just be sure to ask for it up front.

Overheal

He's in Miami now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfFeVIAkndg

Reportedly will be flying back to Bedminster NJ after the arraignment,

This indictment indicated he used Bedminster in his conspiracy to keep the government from getting its national security information back.

https://www.newjerseyhills.com/bernardsville_news/news/feds-say-trump-showed-classified-documents-in-bedminster/article_0460a018-0705-11ee-9a8d-9323e52e292b.html