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What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

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    #2252
    Tell me how
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I feel that the media industry and culture in America produced Trump. CNN gave him disproportionate publicity in 2015 because they realised (correctly) that he was good for ratings.

    I shudder to think what other nut case they'll focus on in the future for ratings.

    So I always fail to understand the defence of US media. It's clearly part of the problem.

    Even on quiet days, CNN spent hours and hours talking about Trump. It was disgraceful.

    Why do you spend so much time watching CNN if their coverage is disgraceful?


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    #2253
    MisterAnarchy
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    hotmail.com wrote: »
    I feel that the media industry and culture in America produced Trump. CNN gave him disproportionate publicity in 2015 because they realised (correctly) that he was good for ratings.

    I shudder to think what other nut case they'll focus on in the future for ratings.

    So I always fail to understand the defence of US media. It's clearly part of the problem.

    Even on quiet days, CNN spent hours and hours talking about Trump. It was disgraceful.

    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415669-larry-king-hits-cnn-stopped-doing-news-to-focus-on-trump
    Ex-CNN host Larry King mocked his former employer earlier this week, declaring that the network “stopped doing news a long time ago” by opting to primarily cover President Trump.

    "They covered him as a character. They carried every speech he made. They carried him more than Fox News, at the beginning," King said. "And so they built the whole thing up and the Republicans had a lot of candidates and they all had weaknesses."

    "CNN stopped doing news a long time ago," King said while being interviewed by another former CNN anchor, Rick Sanchez. "They do Trump. Fox is Trump TV and MSNBC is anti-Trump all the time."

    "You don’t see a story — there was vicious winds and storms in the Northeast the other day — not covered on any of the three cable networks, not covered," King noted. "So when CNN started covering Trump — they were the first — they covered every speech he made and then they made Trump the story. So, Trump is the story in America."

    CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
    That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
    The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.
    The most trusted name in news, yeah right.


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    #2254
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
    That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
    The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.

    Yeah and Fox News argued in court that no one should expect that Tucker Carlson is reporting the news.

    One of these stations is the most watch cable news network, which is it?


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    #2255
    briany
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    yagan wrote: »
    Trump will attack the GOP from now on because he needs total alignment to have a hope at a rerun, or to launch Eric.

    Oh, here's hoping. Here would be that launch in gif form.

    tenor.gif


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    #2256
    MisterAnarchy
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    Yeah and Fox News argued in court that no one should expect that Tucker Carlson is reporting the news.

    One of these stations is the most watch cable news network, which is it?

    Fox News is inherently biased, I'm not denying that.

    I'm saying that CNN is also biased, its not objective.
    Posting links from Foxnews doesn't credit one.. but discredits one. Fox news is a Far Right propaganda channel. Just like any other of the Murdoch media

    But quoting CNN is perfectly fine is it ?

    I could have quoted other links just as easily, non Fox News, the story would still be the same.


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    #2257
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Fox News is inherently biased, I'm not denying that.

    I'm saying that CNN is also biased, its not objective.



    But quoting CNN is perfectly fine is it ?

    I could have quoted other links just as easily, non Fox News, the story would still be the same.

    Depends on what the link is. Is it reporting on something? Or is it an opinion piece. Note the vast majority of what Fox push on their social channels are the latter.

    There were times when people were complaining about CNN showing Trump in a bad light when literally all they did was stream his press conference.


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    #2258
    duploelabs
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415669-larry-king-hits-cnn-stopped-doing-news-to-focus-on-trump



    CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
    That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
    The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.
    The most trusted name in news, yeah right.

    News flash, every news agency (except maybe pbs) are commercially driven


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    #2259
    MisterAnarchy
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    Tell me how wrote: »
    Depends on what the link is. Is it reporting on something? Or is it an opinion piece. Note the vast majority of what Fox push on their social channels are the latter.

    There were times when people were complaining about CNN showing Trump in a bad light when literally all they did was stream his press conference.

    Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??


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    #2260
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

    I don't know. I don't watch them.


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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

    For someone who said it's not good good to have a lot of hate for anything, you sure do have a lot of hate for CNN.


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    #2262
    Quin_Dub
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

    No they aren't really , although I'd submit that they are quite a bit more objective than their Fox News counterparts.

    The other issue is the mix of Opinion vs. News - Fox wildly over-indexes on Opinion and they have further doubled down on that in recent weeks with their line up changes.

    Beyond a few hours in the middle of the day , it's almost impossible to get fact based "hard news" on Fox.

    None of them are anywhere close to neutral , but without question there are degrees of partisanship and Fox are way out on their own on that front.


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    #2263
    briany
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    I wonder how many people talking s**t about CNN in America are the same ones tuning into OANN, i.e. the news channel which at one point claimed that the 'real' election results had Trump at 410 electoral votes.

    It always makes me laugh the way some of these people go, "Don't watch CNN, BBC, RTE news.", and you go, "Oh, so where should one be getting their unbiased news from?", and the answer is, "Oh, well [flaming right-wing news site], and of course some nutter on Facebook posting unverified rumour and conspiracy theory."

    Talk about going from the frying pan into the fire... Some brass neck to be talking about 'fake news'.


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    #2264
    duploelabs
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    briany wrote: »
    I wonder how many people talking s**t about CNN in America are the same ones tuning into OANN, i.e. the news channel which at one point claimed that the 'real' election results had Trump at 410 electoral votes.

    It always makes me laugh the way some of these people go, "Don't watch CNN, BBC, RTE news.", and you go, "Oh, so where should one be getting their unbiased news from?", and the answer is, "Oh, well [flaming right-wing news site], and of course some nutter on Facebook posting unverified rumour and conspiracy theory."

    Talk about going from the frying pan into the fire... Some brass neck to be talking about 'fake news'.

    For some of them, I honestly don't think they know the difference or are aware of their own cognitive bias.
    Those people now want their news (and their politics) dramatic and WWEish and will go to the sources that provide them that dopamine


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    #2265
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Do you think CNN opinion programmes like Andersen Cooper, Don Lemon, Amanpour, Erin Burnett and Cuomo are in anyway objective ??

    https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

    I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.


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    #2266
    MisterAnarchy
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    extra gravy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

    I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

    I never said that they did.


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    #2267
    briany
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    extra gravy wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/abughazalehkat/status/1361846831374884865?s=19

    I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

    At what point does that kind of spiel become defamation?


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    #2268
    Tippex
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    extra gravy wrote: »

    I don't remember CNN ever stooping to this kind of level.

    Wow I laughed at tucker on this.


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    #2269
    duploelabs
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    briany wrote: »
    At what point does that kind of spiel become defamation?

    Until the point when Fox hold up their previous settlement stating that tucker's show is just entertainment and no one of sound mind should take it literally, or was that Sean Hannity


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    duploelabs
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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    https://thehill.com/homenews/media/415669-larry-king-hits-cnn-stopped-doing-news-to-focus-on-trump



    CNN and their parent company (Warner/At&t) only care about ratings and the policy that they decided was initially to give Trump a huge platform and huge publicity as they never believed he'd actually win the election.
    That later turned to a negative agenda against Trump.
    The Project Veritas whistleblower leaks show CNN's true agenda.
    The most trusted name in news, yeah right.

    They same far-right project veritas that have been kicked off twitter for Doxing?
    https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279707/twitter-project-veritas-suspension-privacy-violations


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    #2271
    briany
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    duploelabs wrote: »
    Until the point when Fox hold up their previous settlement stating that tucker's show is just entertainment and no one of sound mind should take it literally, or was that Sean Hannity

    Ah well, at least the channel was forced to back-handedly insult a large swathe of its viewership.

    Seeing as they were forced to admit that, maybe they could put it as a disclaimer at the start of Carlson and Hannity's shows.


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    #2272
    MisterAnarchy
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    duploelabs wrote: »
    They same far-right project veritas that have been kicked off twitter for Doxing?
    https://www.theverge.com/2021/2/12/22279707/twitter-project-veritas-suspension-privacy-violations

    I dont see how that is relevant.

    Project Veritas released tapes of CNN’s morning briefing calls with CEO Zucker and other staff members that were recorded over a number of months.
    Its their own words.


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    #2273
    Penn
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    One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.


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    #2274
    everlast75
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    Penn wrote: »
    One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.

    My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........


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    #2275
    frag420
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    Penn wrote: »
    One of Trump's most public supporters, Rush Limbaugh, has passed from his illnesses.

    No loss, terrible human!


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    frag420
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    everlast75 wrote: »
    My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........

    Just a pity Limbaugh didn’t adhere to that view too...


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    MadYaker
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    everlast75 wrote: »
    My mam always said "if you can't say anything good, then don't say anything at all", so.........

    I’ve never understood why we should pretend people weren’t pricks just because they’ve croaked.


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    #2278
    magma69
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    It's been a tough time lately to be a poor-people-hating bigot.


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    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    I dont see how that is relevant.

    Project Veritas released tapes of CNN’s morning briefing calls with CEO Zucker and other staff members that were recorded over a number of months.
    Its their own words.

    Ah yes, the reputable Project Veritas that regularly misrepresent and alter recording to push a particular agenda....


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    #2280
    Faugheen
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    MadYaker wrote: »
    I’ve never understood why we should pretend people weren’t pricks just because they’ve croaked.

    Yep. He used to name out gay people who died from AIDS accompanied by hooter horns and bells sound effects.

    A truly abhorrent human being. Deserves zero respect just because he has died.


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    #2281
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    “I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure.”

    ― Mark Twain


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