What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

salmocab

Remember the poster that said Disney cancelled Tim Allen for being a conservative then when it was pointed out that he was making a new show for them he just didn’t mention it again. They read the headlines they are fed then regurgitate them as fact, being told there is a culture war is enough for them to mobilise and swallow the load that is shot into their mouths by the people pulling their strings.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948046#Comment_120948046

Once again the meaningless woke strawman, makes a tedious appearance.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948674#Comment_120948674

https://youtu.be/8d8h1lbzoHY

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I.R.Y.E.D

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948472#Comment_120948472

Ah you would have to have been really rocked to close to the wall for that.

LuckyLloyd

I read posts like that from Trump, see his acolytes floundering on TV appearances since the latest indictment and think, what a LOSER. He looks so unbelievably weak at present. Wait until he's on a debate stage, and Chris Christie goes after him with nothing to lose. The aura slipping will see MAGA fans melt away. The grift doesn't work when Trump is highlighted as powerless and broke.

francois

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948955#Comment_120948955

You would like to think so, except the cult is strong-Reminds me of those end of the world preachers, when the date passes without incident, the faithful still believe as another date is set by their leader

Akrasia

Once people started laughing at the old racists for complaining about political correctness they just rebranded it to 'its wokeness gone mad'

https://youtu.be/x_JCBmY9NGM

Agent Coulson

They need to get him on the stand under oath at one of these trials and ask him directly if he actually believes the election was stolen and he tried to change the results or he has to admit under oath that he is lying to his supporter base.

So he either lies under oath or tells the truth to his supporter base that he is lying to them about the election and all the money he has asked for from them was from a lie and he knew the election was fair and vaild.

And if he pleads the 5th we all know what that means.

Donald J Trump

If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvsdABjCedA

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948046#Comment_120948046

Other people have countered this but I'm going to do it once again because it is deserving of being hammered in to the fcuking ground.

Any semblance of what might be classed as a 'Woke Agenda' has been contrived within the mindset of Conservatives smart enough to know they have zero meaningful policies by which to appeal to people. There's a reason they've won about 1 popular vote at Presidential elections in the last 30 years. The conservative ideology is failing on its feet unless it is given booster shots every couple of months through the creation of fantasy narratives of their mouthpieces.

We've seen specific editions of this recently with the 'Trans book reading to children' being equated as grooming. A message that was pushed heavily on here by at least one person still actively involved on Boards. US conservatives recently pushed the 'Sound of silence' movie as being ground breaking (ala Pizza Gate) in revealing the supposed mindset of Democrats and meanwhile, in the real world, one of the funders of the movie was last week arrested for kidnapping children.

Outside of these dramatic topics, the term Woke has been applied to pretty much every ideal which in reality should be described as 'not being a c*nt'. Teaching people about sexuality, consent, the history of the country, the need to protect the environment, treating people looking for a better life compassionately, the value of scientific process, long term sustainable societies and so on.

Conservatives are now learning that once they welcomed the crazies onboard so as to give them a chance at retaining power, they can’t just put them out of sight once again when they realize the mistake they have made.

Donald Trump was a diversion tactic that has escaped any semplance of control they hoped to be able to place on him. He was never capable enough for the office whether looking at it from a political, compassionate, intellectual perspective but because he is focused only on himself, Republicans are forced to pretend he is something he isn’t (and never has been) rather than admit how wrong they got it.

But for the rest of us, we have to live with the consequences of the political environment being as it is. UK politics is as bad in lacking moral guidance from the Conservatives as it is in the US. And that has real life consequences for a lot more on here than the US does.

If people are getting to the point of being fed up with anything, its much more likely to be about having been told that the sh*t they are swallowing when swimming in their countries water is not what it is (this is literally happening right now in the UK). Ultra conservative policies along the lines of abortion control are being defeated in the US wherever the public gets the opportunity to vote on them and yet you, and others like you expect us to think that Trump is some sort of indication of what the mindset in the wider US is. Complete and utter nonsense.

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948955#Comment_120948955

If Trump's support is holding steady while being under several federal indictments and civil cases, while also being a big factor in the Republicans failing to win a comfortable majority in the last midterms, then how do you think that his support is going to melt away after a verbal shellacking from Chris Christie? That's like predicting the T-1000 is toast after taking a whack of a baseball bat, after just surviving a massive shoot-out with the LAPD. It's not happening.

With respect, I don't know how people keep on thinking this or that event will be thing that finishes Trump. Are we living in Groundhog Day? His support has ticked slightly upward since the indictments, if anything.

Regarding debates, Trump has no particular need to attend. If he does attend, there'll be no points of policy discussed. It will just be rage. Trump can just call Christie a 'fat nobody who'll never be president' and that'll be the end of it. Chris Christie can talk tough, but everyone remembers that he was a complete toadie for Trump only a few years ago. This completely undermines the hard man act he is now trying to do. To one extent or another, everyone who would face Trump on a primary debate stage is this way. They have to simultaneously agree with pretty much every point of rhetoric or policy which has been espoused by Trump while simultaneously saying why he shouldn't be nominee. It doesn't work. It's a fundamentally weak position to argue from.

LuckyLloyd

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949058#Comment_120949058

I think MAGAism is undoubtedly here for a while yet.

But Trump isn't going to survive this particular indictment IMO. This is going to be a clean victory in court, with a judge that keeps the trains on time.

MisterAnarchy

https://www.newsweek.com/ex-capitol-police-chief-sounds-alarm-jan-6-cover-1817365

Very very interesting this.

Odd it hasnt been mentioned here before by the mass of critical thinkers.

I see Trump is demanding the network turn over footage and communications, it could be quite interesting.

https://puck.news/trump-has-subpoenaed-fox-news-for-tuckers-unaired-jan-6-interview/

Glencarraig

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120948005#Comment_120948005

This is just the same as The Chump saying he can declassify documents just by thinking about it................More utter bulls*it

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949099#Comment_120949099

Erm, that article cites how the national guard didn't get deployed... Guess who was responsible for that..

briany

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949090#Comment_120949090

What do you mean by 'not going to survive'? Does he lose his political sway or does he die, or both? If he dies, he becomes the Kim Il Sung of the MAGA movement. Regarding being indicted, his supporters have no respect for the institutions of state when they go after Trump. If their opinion is that the election was rigged against Trump, despite no solid evidence, then I'm quite confident they will view any verdict against him as yet another attempt by 'the deep state' to take him down. Is this not how it's already being framed, in fact?

Again, the mistake being made here is expecting Trump supporters to at some point see reason. They're living in their own reality. There will be no reasoning. There will be no moment when they see sense.

sydthebeat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949099#Comment_120949099

??

The slowness of Trump to release the national guard is a well documented fact.

I don't think that article says what you think it says.

MisterAnarchy

Sund expressed the belief that Mark Milley, Chair of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and Nancy Pelosi, then-House Speaker, had prior knowledge of the Jan. 6 events but did not communicate it, leading to an alleged cover-up afterward.

Here is Sunds direct quote

“Could there possibly be actually … they kind of wanted something to happen? It’s not a far stretch to begin to think that. It’s sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out … what was their end goal?”

dogbert27

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949132#Comment_120949132

Sund proposes a hypothetical and Trump wants to use it as a defence?!

Grasping at straws

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949141#Comment_120949141

No thats not what was proposed.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949155#Comment_120949155

He can propose whatever he wants but the failure to deploy the national guard was trump's decision... Why is it that trump supporters just always move rapidly into the world of conspiracy theories?

Penn

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949132#Comment_120949132

So he doesn't have evidence of anything, and it mostly boils down to the Intelligence Agencies (under Trump's control) not providing them with the information in enough time, and not being able to get the National Guard (which Trump has to authorise).

Maybe the reason the "critical minds" here aren't talking about it is because this was already fully established as part of the Jan 6th hearings.

sydthebeat

I'm not a conspiracy theorist but .....

PropJoe10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949193#Comment_120949193

It's all they have. The only other alternative would be to believe that Donald is not telling the truth. And we all know that's not going to happen. So the only option is to go down the Sidney Powell and Michael Flynn route.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949193#Comment_120949193

Because reading the indictment is too real.

everlast75

More from the defendant who won't shut the **** up....

everlast75

He's still at it...

Igotadose

Good read on Trump's emboldening of antisemitism in the US. https://www.salon.com/2023/08/07/holocaust-scholars-explain-why-has-ramped-up-his-nazi-style-rhetoric-words-can-kill/

MisterAnarchy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949418#Comment_120949418

In essence, Donald Trump is comparing the Holocaust, which is one of the greatest crimes in human history, to his being held accountable in a court of law where he will be allowed a robust defense and his civil and human rights respected. To distort and minimize the realities of the Holocaust is itself an act of antisemitism. That Donald Trump, a man who as president said that the neoNazis who rampaged across Charlottesville in 2017 are "very fine people," would invoke the Holocaust makes his most recent antisemitic behavior even more disturbing and gross.

Thats some leap especially when a brief search of the writers previous articles show him throwing the word Nazi around very frequently.

Everyone is a Nazi nowadays it would seem.

DeVega seems like another one of these BLM grifters, someone who sees racism in everything.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949155#Comment_120949155

“Could there possibly be actually … they kind of wanted something to happen? It’s not a far stretch to begin to think that. It’s sad when you start putting everything together and thinking about the way this played out … what was their end goal?”

Statements like that can be filed in the same waste basket as

• 'Many people say......'
• 'I've heard......'
• 'They're telling me......'

Weak wishy washy statements that are vague enough so the person using them cannot be accused of lying but are clung to by people praying that they are true.

You forget, we've been watching Trump for 7 years now.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120949486#Comment_120949486

Big guy, walked up to me, tears in his eyes, and he said 'sir'