What does the future hold for Donald Trump? - threadbans in OP

ancapailldorcha

Disturbing stuff:

They clearly don't believe in democracy or the constitution. It has no place in a democracy.

Flaneur OBrien

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111904#Comment_121111904

All they care about is ruling and power.

Rows Grower

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111389#Comment_121111389

Megyn totally outwitted him, he's kippered.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1702398553426108520

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111973#Comment_121111973

LOL -

Megyn - asks a straightforward question.

Trump - *brain fart*

Trump - Plays accordion with his hands for a bit.. "These are democrat fascists..."

An utter joke of a man. Anyone can see it.

pixelburp

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111904#Comment_121111904

For context: Romney is retiring so all this sudden garrulous nature is entirely down to knowing there's no longer any blow back. Like John McCain, Romney was a lone voice of sobriety when it suited him.

But yes, the GOP in its modern variant views the Constitution as it does the Bible: a useful tool to wave around when it suits, and one to ensnare the more dogmatic cohorts of its base - but fundamentally the party takes actions that contradict or spit in the face of both documents.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112016#Comment_121112016

Oh, sure. He's only slightly better than the MAGA crowd. I still remember his appalling rape comments for one.

This is the GOP in 2023, where Romney and McCain are saints by comparison to the rest of the party.

Quin_Dub

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112016#Comment_121112016

Yup - Like Jeff Flake before him.

Keep quiet until it can no longer hurt him and then speaks up.

Although in fairness to Romney he did vote to impeach him but still.

Tell me how

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112016#Comment_121112016

To be fair, Romney called out Trump from way back and was one of the few Senators who voted to convict him at his impeachment trial.

He's of the John McCain mould, he was responsible for the introduction of a state-wide healthcare program for Massachusetts which was the template for Obamacare.

I'm fundamentally not a Republican, but have a lot of respect for some who are. When I lived in the US, it was in a blue state with a Republican governor, and I had no issue with how he performed, or what most of his policies were. No surprising, he didn't get on with Trump either.

Trump has taken the worst of the party and expanded it massively in crassness, bitterness and selfishness. We all laughed at Sarah Palin in 08 (who McCain picked and later regretted apparently), she is a moderate by todays standards, both in policy and behaviour.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121111988#Comment_121111988

Would it be a good play for the next interviewer to ask him with a straight face "About your visit to Fulson Prison ,many people have been asking me if you posed for that picture or was it your natural look?"

Would Trump know if he was being piss taken or being flattered?

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121112195#Comment_121112195

I'm fine with people being republican. One of my favourite Youtubes is a massive Trumpanzee who apparently thinks the West Coast isn't really American.

It's the ocean of disingenuous drivel I take issue with. The pretending to care about racism and homophobia that as pathetic as it is deceitful. I just wish people would be honest instead of hiding behind these transparent masks.

Cody montana

BREAKING: Married South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem has been having a years-long affair with married Trump advisor Corey Lewandowski.

The governor has frequently touted "traditional marriage" and her "family values."

Her chances of being trumps vice presidential nominee have gone up?

everlast75

Didn't he have a fling with Hope Hicks?

Trump told him he was boxing well above himself iirc

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121114237#Comment_121114237

Shirley, not another virtue signaling hypocrite? No, she’s a victim of gay marriage.

Overheal

Hunters gun form and Cornels tax evasion and a phony impeachment in exchange for stealing classified docs, RICO, and coup.

Yeah I think we will pass.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121114249#Comment_121114249

Thought he groped a few people?

ancapailldorcha

It's weird reading that sort of stuff as a European. Like, why would I want to see any politician or their relative escape justice? Partisanship must be a heck of a drug.

Economics101

TFG up to his usual obstructionist tricks in the NY Fraud case:

https://www.rte.ie/news/2023/0915/1405384-donald-trump-fraud-trial/

I love the last few lines of this report:

Mr Trump holds a dominant lead in the 2024 race for the Republican presidential nomination.

He has denied wrongdoing and called Ms James' case part of a Democratic "witch hunt."

In January, Justice Engoron said the "witch hunt" argument did not justify a dismissal and said some defence arguments were "borderline frivolous even the first-time defendants made them."

silliussoddius

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121114331#Comment_121114331

So that’s what drain the swamp means.

Overheal

Just in from CNN: in the sealed matter between the DOJ and Twitter, Twitter ended up handing over 32 responsive direct messages from his Twitter account.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzo-LgEyXVo

Itssoeasy

So Donald trump from his interview with Megyn Kelly is trotting out the line that he was entitled to keep the documents he took and that they were his to keep. The reality is no he isn’t and wasn’t and if he’d complied with the subpoena he wouldn’t have had had the FBI in his home.

amandstu

"Above the law" comes to mind.

"Entitled" too.

And "cornered".

Overheal

Romneys texts and new bio reportedly show that the GOP were too terrified of their violent base to impeach Trump after January 6, something which would have immediately put to bed any chance of him holding office again:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqn7WZdTGJY

Cody montana

Theatergoer Describes ‘Outrageous’ Lauren Boebert ‘Beetlejuice’ Encounter

Check out the new footage. 😬

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116197#Comment_121116197

I bet her date feels a right tit...

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116295#Comment_121116295

It has its flaws but without the written Constitution there'd be one less bulwark against the likes of Trump to rewrite rules as convenient.

Cody montana

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116301#Comment_121116301

Drag shows are the problem apparently.

She’s about to be a grandmother btw.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116295#Comment_121116295

I almost agree. It's a document that's unfit for purpose as we know. However, what and who would replace it? When you look at how the system's been corrupted so thoroughly with the constitution in place, it's hard to argue for removing what little protection it provides. It's a non-starter given the cult like reverence held by many over there for the document and the slave owners who created it.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116295#Comment_121116295

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116318#Comment_121116318

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116355#Comment_121116355

See Article V

The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116362#Comment_121116362

I dont think constitution changes should be 51-49 decisions.

I think there should be a higher bar.

The US has a mechanism for changing it, but they have perhaps set that bar too high.

amandstu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121116389#Comment_121116389

You could have a 51-49 bar for putting it to a vote with a higher bar for passing it.

Could apply here too so that important decisions have a built in shelf life and genuine support at the outset.