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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    osarusan wrote: »
    That says nothing about voter fraud winning Biden the state of Georgia in the presidential election. Literally nothing, the word 'fraud' doesn't even appear in the article.


    So can you post up some actual evidence to support your claim that 'without fraud biden wouldn't have won.'

    Here's some reading for you while you're at it: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-plain-wrong-fraud-claims-georgia-secretary-state/story?id=75032595
    Again taken out of context. He asked to check irregularities
    https://sharylattkisson.com/2021/03/chain-of-custody-for-over-400000-georgia-absentee-ballots-missing-report/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    Please provide the facts that prove your claim that "without fraud biden wouldn't have won."

    It doesn't matter what I show you will say they were debunked which is incorrect


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    normakelle wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what I show you will say they were debunked which is incorrect

    That's what normally happens with bullsh1t...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    normakelle wrote: »
    It doesn't matter what I show you will say they were debunked which is incorrect

    63 lost lawsuits says you are wrong.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    everlast75 wrote: »
    That's what normally happens with bullsh1t...

    Debunked by whom just because you have read it doesn't make it true. It's amazing how you can read two different articles written by let's say cnn and newsmax or fox news on the same topic but two completely different takes on it. Who is to say which it the truth.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,967 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    normakelle wrote:
    Just because the new York Times writes an article it must be true. Its their interpretation of the new law. No bias whatsoever. We all know why they are lashing back at the laws because they know without fraud biden wouldn't have won. In fact Joe biden is belitting black people and insulting their intelligence.
    Wrong thread for that. There's a conspiracy theory thread for all talk about election fraud.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,967 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    normakelle wrote:
    Debunked by whom just because you have read it doesn't make it true. It's amazing how you can read two different articles written by let's say cnn and newsmax or fox news on the same topic but two completely different takes on it. Who is to say which it the truth.
    As said 63 lawsuits couldn't prove anything and many of them in front of judges appointed by the previous President.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,741 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    normakelle wrote: »
    Debunked by whom just because you have read it doesn't make it true. It's amazing how you can read two different articles written by let's say cnn and newsmax or fox news on the same topic but two completely different takes on it. Who is to say which it the truth.

    You were asked for evidence. You do know what evidence is?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    normakelle wrote: »
    It doesn't matter whether it has Liberal or Conservative leanings. Facts speak for themselves

    But you just ignored a NYT piece because of bias.

    At least try to have some consistency and standards.

    You 'know' fraud was committed, but cannot provide any evidence.

    You admit that this law was passed to stop dems getting votes, yet see nothing wrong with it.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You were asked for evidence. You do know what evidence is?

    What ever the daily wire and other sh1te hawks tell them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle




  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    But you just ignored a NYT piece because of bias.

    At least try to have some consistency and standards.

    You 'know' fraud was committed, but cannot provide any evidence.

    You admit that this law was passed to stop dems getting votes, yet see nothing wrong with it.

    Wasn’t the fraud committed by Republicans?


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    normakelle wrote: »

    Ah wasn't far off

    "The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Ah wasn't far off

    "The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."

    It also provides no evidence of this fraud that apparently everyone knows about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »

    even ignoring the source, what evidence of election fraud is there in that article? try to be specific.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Norma do you know the difference between an allegation of voter fraud and evidence of voter fraud?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Norma do you know the difference between an allegation of voter fraud and evidence of voter fraud?

    There's a lot of Trump supporters that don't seem to know the difference.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    It also provides no evidence of this fraud that apparently everyone knows about.

    Were you really expecting anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    DubInMeath wrote: »
    Ah wasn't far off

    "The Gateway Pundit is an American far-right fake news website. The website is known for publishing falsehoods, hoaxes, and conspiracy theories."

    If you are relying on tgp as a source of information for facts you can be dismissed immediately.
    Worse than Breitbart.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    If you are relying on tgp as a source of information for facts you can be dismissed immediately.
    Worse than Breitbart.

    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »
    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.

    right-leaning?? if the GWP leant any further to the right it would tip over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,413 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    normakelle wrote: »
    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.

    You’re arguing against something nobody said. You must be able to see how ridiculous that is.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,393 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    normakelle wrote: »
    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.

    The gateway pundit is insane garbage.
    Nothing to do with right or left.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,973 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    normakelle wrote: »
    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.

    What publication on the left do you think is at the same left as bias as the GWP?

    Go ahead and do a search for that on this thread and let us know how many times they have been cited as evidence.

    I'm interested in your answer to this question even if you don't find them on thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    normakelle wrote: »

    Many of the judges were appointed by Trump himself. Yet they are cowards! Doesn't say much about Trumps judgement in selecting them.

    But one professor, with no evidence yet again, Doesn't mean its true. If we can't rely on the courts, Republican lawmakers, the constitution, the entire voting system itself, then how can we ever be sure of anything?

    Was Trumps victory a fraud, because it was such a surprise and won on such tiny margins then by your logic it must have been a fraud.

    When you said everyone knows, did you mean that the vast minority think it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Many of the judges were appointed by Trump himself. Yet they are cowards! Doesn't say much about Trumps judgement in selecting them.

    But one professor, with no evidence yet again, Doesn't mean its true. If we can't rely on the courts, Republican lawmakers, the constitution, the entire voting system itself, then how can we ever be sure of anything?

    Was Trumps victory a fraud, because it was such a surprise and won on such tiny margins then by your logic it must have been a fraud.

    When you said everyone knows, did you mean that the vast minority think it?

    https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/supreme-courts-decision-not-hear-elections-cases-could-have-serious
    Why was marcopia election committee fighting tooth and nail to stop a legitimate audit and examination of dominion machines if everything was transparent and above board. Even defying a court order with bullsh##t excuses.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »

    still waiting for actual evidence of election fraud. do you have any?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    normakelle wrote: »

    An opinion piece? Really?

    Come on now. You have made some definitive statements on this thread and provided nothing to back them up save for a few opinion pieces.

    I can link you to multiple YouTube videos about Flat Earth, the Lizard People, Trump being a Russian asset. Pretty much anything.

    Doesn't prove a thing. Except, your postings proves that opinion is all that matters to you and you only care about those pieces that back up your opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://www.heritage.org/election-integrity/commentary/supreme-courts-decision-not-hear-elections-cases-could-have-serious
    Why was marcopia election committee fighting tooth and nail to stop a legitimate audit and examination of dominion machines if everything was transparent and above board. Even defying a court order with bullsh##t excuses.

    I don't know. Why?

    Now, don't tell me what you think, tell me what you can prove.

    They defied a court order and nothing was done?

    Trump raised millions from his supporters to fight the election results. Would seem awfully remiss of him to miss that.

    And why did one of his legal team recently claim in court that she never expected anyone to actually believe his statements? Is she part of the conspiracy? A plant by the Dems to put Trump off the case?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,967 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    normakelle wrote:
    So all right leaning news media tells lies and falsehoods while left leaning media is the virtue of truth. If you believe that then you are part of the problem.

    No, go read Rotowire. They just give you the news with no slant.
    Right or left leaning isn't great but far right and left is where you get the fake stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,161 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    https://twitter.com/briantylercohen/status/1378525372447293440?s=19

    I like the way he speaks slowly, so most of the fox watchers can understand him clearly.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    still waiting for actual evidence of election fraud. do you have any?

    https://youtu.be/spxFqUUPuS4
    Dominion machines programmed to switch votes from trump to biden


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,865 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    More winning: 916,000 jobs added in March as pandemic eases in the US due to the Biden administrations vigorous activity around vaccinations and the economic stimulus:

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/02/916-000-jobs-added-in-march-478912


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,865 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/spxFqUUPuS4
    Dominion machines programmed to switch votes from trump to biden

    So, no evidence then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/spxFqUUPuS4
    Dominion machines programmed to switch votes from trump to biden

    https://youtu.be/9ur-E2BNy-M


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,381 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty




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    normakelle wrote: »

    You're just pushing a conspiracy theory you know..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    It's great to have a President that understands science and is willing to tackle climate change.


    https://amp.ft.com/content/33bcf3fc-bc44-4fe0-b1ff-4ec2dbb4168d?__twitter_impression=true


    "This now puts the entire clean energy transition into hyperdrive,” said Paul Bledsoe, strategic adviser at the Progressive Policy Institute, and a former climate adviser in the Clinton White House. “The thing it does, I think for the first time truly ever, is provide utter certainty for business investment in clean energy.”

    Biden’s plan would see an infusion of more than $350bn directly into clean energy — driving electric-vehicle infrastructure, reinvigorating the grid and boosting research and development — plus an estimated $400bn extending and expanding tax credits for clean energy generation and storage. It would also set a “clean energy standard” mandating utilities to produce power that is carbon-free by 2035."


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    Norma, if there was so much voter fraud why did Sydney Powell in her defence against Dominion did she say...
    “No reasonable person would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact,”

    The very people pushing the claims don’t believe them and they don’t expect reasonable people to believe them ergo if you believe them they consider you unreasonable.

    How do you square that circle?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,256 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/spxFqUUPuS4
    Dominion machines programmed to switch votes from trump to biden
    39 views in 4 months :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,654 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    39 views in 4 months :pac:

    Probably all Norma.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,536 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    normakelle wrote: »
    https://youtu.be/spxFqUUPuS4
    Dominion machines programmed to switch votes from trump to biden

    was it filmed on a 1980s camcorder? where do you find this rubbish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,967 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    was it filmed on a 1980s camcorder? where do you find this rubbish?
    I'd imagine on far right sites designed to pander to the brainwashed, less intelligent people of society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,295 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Because there is no reason to believe that people from diverse backgrounds are less capable than people from backgrounds which reflect those that have traditionally held power and have been appointed to senior roles.

    But the fact that heretofore so few administrations were truly diverse or so few people from diverse backgrounds found themselves in positions of authority is evidence that people were being appointed to roles because of a preference for how they looked/sounded/used a toilet.

    You guys cannot grasp this, I know that before I even type it, but Biden picking a diverse administration and VP is not evidence that it is identity politics, it is evidence that that people of diverse backgrounds deserve to be awarded such roles.

    Kamala Harris has advanced degrees in finance and law, was elected as District attorney for San Francisco before being elected as attorney general for California before being elected as Senator for California before being elected as Vise President of the United States. And throughout last year, and here again today people have tried to cheapen her achievements by suggesting she was selected only because she was a woman of colour and not because she was a woman of colour who is supremely qualified for the role.

    The same old rhetoric and disingenuous argument.

    Having a woman of colour as Vice President is something that in other circumstances should be celebrated.
    But this is a clear case of tokenism when looked at in a broader context.

    Kamala Harris's campaign to run for the Democratic Presidential nomination was a disaster.
    Harris said in 2019 that she “believed” women who accused Biden of offences ranging from inappropriate touching to rape.
    Harris attacked Biden during the primaries for his close partnership in the senate with southern segregationists.

    In short, she didn't do anything to endear herself to Biden or demonstrate that she had significant broad support based on her own merits as a candidate.

    Harris bucked the trend of a presidential contender picking a running mate who came up runner-up, or at least was a serious contender, in the party’s primary contest.
    The only reason that she was brought back to be VP was because as a woman of colour, Harris kills two birds with one stone by ticking both the gender and race boxes.

    Just as Obama’s supporters used triumphalist talk of him being the first Black president to deflect criticism of any of his policies, history is now repeating itself with Harris.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Norma, if there was so much voter fraud why did Sydney Powell in her defence against Dominion did she say...



    The very people pushing the claims don’t believe them and they don’t expect reasonable people to believe them ergo if you believe them they consider you unreasonable.

    How do you square that circle?

    https://uncoverdc.com/2021/03/31/sidney-powells-legal-defense-dominates-dominion/

    Again the media takes it completely out of context


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,085 ✭✭✭relax carry on


    normakelle wrote: »

    Rather than one liners and a link could you point out what your well researched article/YouTube video is saying in your own words and how it backs up whatever point you are trying to make.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,764 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    The same old rhetoric and disingenuous argument.

    Having a woman of colour as Vice President is something that in other circumstances should be celebrated.
    But this is a clear case of tokenism when looked at in a broader context.

    Kamala Harris's campaign to run for the Democratic Presidential nomination was a disaster.
    Harris said in 2019 that she “believed” women who accused Biden of offences ranging from inappropriate touching to rape.
    Harris attacked Biden during the primaries for his close partnership in the senate with southern segregationists.

    In short, she didn't do anything to endear herself to Biden or demonstrate that she had significant broad support based on her own merits as a candidate.

    Harris bucked the trend of a presidential contender picking a running mate who came up runner-up, or at least was a serious contender, in the party’s primary contest.
    The only reason that she was brought back to be VP was because as a woman of colour, Harris kills two birds with one stone by ticking both the gender and race boxes.

    The only reason Pence was picked was because he was white christian male.

    Palin was picked to generate a surprise. VPs are always selected for some reason to aid the candidate.

    There is nothing different about Harris, except that you seem to have an issue with her being female and colour.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 251 ✭✭normakelle


    https://www.cnn.om/2021/04/03/politics/what-matters-april-2/index.html

    Ya biden is a real winner concerning the chaos at the border. I don't see Jill biden bringing them cookies like she did with the national guard. Obviously not such a good photo op. Big ass men love cookies, little kids not so much


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