Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Brian?

Any chance people could actually link to the statements/speeches/utterings/actions that they criticising Biden for?

Posting “I can’t believe Biden just said that about X” and not linking anything makes it a nightmare to follow what’s going on

Overheal

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Really cringeworthy speech by Biden just now.
Complete virtue signalling and race baiting.

Very disappointing to see the head of the country saying that there is systemic racism in America.
He mentioned Georges's legacy and also said that George changed the world.

Its this melodramatic virtue signalling that is destroying the US.
George Floyd was not a good man, but he didn't deserve what he got, but he is no saint.
There are 800000 police in the US, the vast majority do a good job, lets not tar them all with the same brush.

Why, when it is true? Disappointing that he doesn’t blow smoke up Americas ass?

What are you suggesting Biden said that ‘tars 800k police with the same brush??’ Quote?

The reason George Floyd matters so much - and why each of these cases matters so much - is because as you just agreed yourself, he didn’t deserve what he got. And neither do so many others in so many other situations and jurisdictions that people as yourself who champion that line will find it increasingly hard to sell the argument that is not a systemic problem.

Overheal

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

i''m jumping in here but the jury was never sequestered.

Evidenced by what? You’re making a bold claim that flies in the face of a preponderance of reporting to the contrary from across the political and media spectrum. Source?

Faugheen

Overheal wrote: »

Evidenced by what? You’re making a bold claim that flies in the face of a preponderance of reporting to the contrary from across the political and media spectrum. Source?

Mary from Mullingar on Facebook.

duploelabs

Faugheen wrote: »

Mary from Mullingar on Facebook.

Who has no friends or photos posted and only joined Facebook a week previously

everlast75

Overheal wrote: »

Evidenced by what? You’re making a bold claim that flies in the face of a preponderance of reporting to the contrary from across the political and media spectrum. Source?

Conway says they were.

https://twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1384676935104618498?s=19

(He also points out the hypocrisy ofnot saying anything when Trump *actually* interfered)

Cody montana

Biden set to announce the US has hit more than 200 million shots, a week before his 100-day target


Talk is cheap!

MisterAnarchy

Overheal wrote: »

Why, when it is true? Disappointing that he doesn’t blow smoke up Americas ass?

Its not true.

Its a myth perpetrated for political and social gain.

extra gravy

Extensive academic research and data collected by the government and researchers proves that systemic racism exists but some lad on boards thinks it's a lie. You just have to laugh sometimes!

walshb

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Really cringeworthy speech by Biden just now.
Complete virtue signalling and race baiting.

Very disappointing to see the head of the country saying that there is systemic racism in America.
He mentioned Georges's legacy and also said that George changed the world.

Its this melodramatic virtue signalling that is destroying the US.
George Floyd was not a good man, but he didn't deserve what he got, but he is no saint.
There are 800000 police in the US, the vast majority do a good job, lets not tar them all with the same brush.

Biden’s behaviour here is far more damaging and dangerous than what he himself is alleging.

He’s stoking division and fear and hate and inciting racial tensions.

Something he lambasted Trump for doing..

everlast75

walshb wrote: »

Biden’s behaviour here is far more damaging and dangerous than what he himself is alleging.

He’s stoking division and fear and hate and inciting racial tensions.

Something he lambasted Trump for doing..

Hmmmm.. yes. Fascinating.

Tell me more!

Cody montana

walshb wrote: »

Biden’s behaviour here is far more damaging and dangerous than what he himself is alleging.

He’s stoking division and fear and hate and inciting racial tensions.

Something he lambasted Trump for doing..

So, how is he stoking division and fear, etc?

MisterAnarchy

extra gravy wrote: »

Extensive academic research and data collected by the government and researchers proves that systemic racism exists but some lad on boards thinks it's a lie. You just have to laugh sometimes!

The same left wing academia that are indoctrinating critical race theory is it ?

Cody montana wrote: »

So, how is he stoking division and fear, etc?

Why are you asking rhetorical questions ?

walshb

Cody montana wrote: »

So, how is he stoking division and fear, etc?

By peddling this narrative that there is systemic racism in America..

Telling black people and non whites that the country is systemically racist...

Duh!

ohnonotgmail

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The same left wing academia that are indoctrinating critical race theory is it ?


Why are you asking rhetorical questions ?

the country was founded on systemic racism. Racism was the law until a year or two before I was born. It hasn't gone away in the intervening years.

Cody montana

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The same left wing academia that are indoctrinating critical race theory is it ?


Why are you asking rhetorical questions ?

It wasn't rhetoric.
How is he stoking division and fear?

Aside from screaming "the sky is falling" continuously, we get very little answers or evidence.

francois

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The same left wing academia that are indoctrinating critical race theory is it ?


Why are you asking rhetorical questions ?

That's not a rebuttal

walshb

Can anyone show me one law-rule in America that legally discriminates against non white people?

ohnonotgmail

walshb wrote: »

Can anyone show me one law-rule in America that legally discriminates against non white people?

you don't really understand the phrase "systemic racism" do you?

MisterAnarchy

Cody montana wrote: »

It wasn't rhetoric.
How is he stoking division and fear?

Aside from screaming "the sky is falling" continuously, we get very little answers or evidence.

He has been stoking fear and division for over a year.

He was getting hammered in the primaries until he switched tactics and fully embraced identity politics.

BLM effectively won him the election.

Smee_Again

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you don't really understand the phrase "systemic racism" do you?

Clearly not, but that won’t stop him claiming it doesn’t exist.

MisterAnarchy

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you don't really understand the phrase "systemic racism" do you?

The word "racism" is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything — and demanding evidence makes you a "racist."

walshb

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

you don't really understand the phrase "systemic racism" do you?

I do

And if we go by your attitude there will always be systemic racism, because you can always refer to the past..

Racism exists everywhere. Systemic racism did exist in America.. it was active!!

It is not now. There is not a single law/rule that discriminates against non white people.

The biggest problem is not systemic racism. It’s attitudes like yours that won’t leave it in the past, where it both is, and where it belongs..

ohnonotgmail

walshb wrote: »

I do

And if we go by your attitude there will always be systemic racism, because you can always refer to the past..

Racism exists everywhere. Systemic racism did exist in America.. it was active!!

It is not now. There is not a single law/rule that discriminates against non white people.

The biggest problem is not systemic racism, it’s attitudes like yours that won’t leave it in the past, where it both is, and where it belongs..

the part in bold shows that you don't understand what it means.

ohnonotgmail

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The word "racism" is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything — and demanding evidence makes you a "racist."

i'm not the one demanding evidence. that would be your mate walshb who thanks your posts.

Cody montana

walshb wrote: »

By peddling this narrative that there is systemic racism in America..

Telling black people and non whites that the country is systemically racist...

Duh!

Yeah, imagine calling out racism.
What a monster.


BTW, this was from the same speech.

"This is a time for this country to come together, to unite as Americans. We can never be any safe Harbor for hate in America. I’ve said it many times. The battle for soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years, a tug of war between the American ideal that we’re all created equal, and the harsh reality that racism has long torn us apart."

MisterAnarchy

walshb wrote: »

The biggest problem is not systemic racism. It’s attitudes like yours that won’t leave it in the past, where it both is, and where it belongs..

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists."

Faugheen

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Really cringeworthy speech by Biden just now.
Complete virtue signalling and race baiting.

Very disappointing to see the head of the country saying that there is systemic racism in America.
He mentioned Georges's legacy and also said that George changed the world.

Its this melodramatic virtue signalling that is destroying the US.
George Floyd was not a good man, but he didn't deserve what he got, but he is no saint.
There are 800000 police in the US, the vast majority do a good job, lets not tar them all with the same brush.

Dismiss...

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Its not true.

Its a myth perpetrated for political and social gain.

Deny...

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The same left wing academia that are indoctrinating critical race theory is it ?


Why are you asking rhetorical questions ?

Deflect...

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

The word "racism" is like ketchup. It can be put on practically anything — and demanding evidence makes you a "racist."

Distract.

Cody montana

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

He has been stoking fear and division for over a year.

He was getting hammered in the primaries until he switched tactics and fully embraced identity politics.

BLM effectively won him the election.

Politician embraces identity politics.
Whatever next?

Being competent won him the election.

You still haven't explained how he's stoking fear and division?

walshb

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the part in bold shows that you don't understand what it means.

You keep clinging to the past...

That is the issue. Look up the definition of systemic racism. Laws are very much a factor...

You don’t have a monopoly on its meaning.

Systemic racism existed. It does not exist now.

Racism exists....and always will. It’s a human condition. A human trait. We all are capable of exhibiting it.

Cody montana

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Racism is not dead, but it is on life support — kept alive by politicians, race hustlers and people who get a sense of superiority by denouncing others as "racists."

Yeah, it's not like they had some huge movement or anything last year.

MisterAnarchy

Its funny that the other 99.8% of black lives destroyed by people who are not police do not seem to attract nearly as much attention in the media.

walshb

Cody montana wrote: »

Yeah, imagine calling out racism.
What a monster.


BTW, this was from the same speech.

"This is a time for this country to come together, to unite as Americans. We can never be any safe Harbor for hate in America. I’ve said it many times. The battle for soul of this nation has been a constant push and pull for more than 240 years, a tug of war between the American ideal that we’re all created equal, and the harsh reality that racism has long torn us apart."

No, he called out systemic racism..

There is a difference...

And that difference is where the real danger lies!

Cody montana

walshb wrote: »

No, he called out systemic racism..

There is a difference...

And that difference is where the real danger lies!

And that's a bad thing IYO?

walshb

Cody montana wrote: »

And that's a bad thing IYO?

Extremely bad when it’s completely false, yes!!!

MisterAnarchy

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Very disappointing to see the head of the country saying that there is systemic racism in America.

"What these studies have in common is that scholars argue that racial disparities in the criminal justice system can be accounted for by higher Black... involvement in the most serious violent crimes. But system disparities for other crimes, even other violent crimes, cannot be explained or justified by higher levels of involvement of people of color for these crimes."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/1745-9133.12361

"If pictures could talk, Figures 3-5 would speak volumes about the racial and ethnic disparities in lead toxicity that children in segregated Chicago neighborhoods have had to endure... Flint, Michigan, is not an aberration... Black and Hispanic neighborhoods exhibited extraordinarily high rates of lead toxicity compared to White neighborhoods at the start of our study in 1995, in some cases with prevalence rates topping 90% of the child population. Black disadvantage in particular is pronounced not only relative to Whites but even relative to Hispanics in every year from 1995-2013."

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/du-bois-review-social-science-research-on-race/article/racial-ecology-of-lead-poisoning/F39AF4724258606DCC1CDA369DC08707

"Even black men born to wealthy families are less economically successful than white men."

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/3/21/17139300/economic-mobility-study-race-black-white-women-men-incarceration-income-chetty-hendren-jones-porter

"Studies have shown that white people prefer to live in communities where there are fewer black people, regardless of their income."

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/21/us/milwaukee-segregation-wealthy-black-families.html

"Black men have much lower chances of climbing the income ladder than white men even if they grow up on the same block"

https://voxeu.org/article/race-and-economic-opportunity-united-states

Cody montana

walshb wrote: »

Extremely bad when it’s completely false, yes!!!

And how do you know?

walshb

Cody montana wrote: »

And how do you know?

And how does he know, you mean..

He made the very serious claim..

So, can he actually show this systemic racism in America..just saying it to appear all woke and to grab votes doesn’t mean it’s true.

Faugheen

walshb wrote: »

And how does he know, you mean..

Well he lives there, for one.

walshb

Faugheen wrote: »

Well he lives there, for one.

Case solved, so!!!

walshb

walshb wrote: »

And how does he know, you mean..

He made the very serious claim..

So, can he actually show this systemic racism in America..just saying it to appear all woke and to grab votes doesn’t mean it’s true.

He uses facts and sources like I did to come to a conclusion based on what the experts say.

Cody montana

walshb wrote: »

And how does he know, you mean..

He made the very serious claim..

So, can he actually show this systemic racism in America..just saying it to appear all woke and to grab votes doesn’t mean it’s true.

Erm, he's the president.
They just had a huge movement last year regarding racism and police brutality.

So calling out racism and calling to unite the country is dividing the country IYO.

You do know he's already elected, so he's not looking for votes.

walshb

Deleted User wrote: »

He uses facts and sources like I did to come to a conclusion based on what the experts say.

I’d love to see his facts..

Stating facts about people of different colors does not mean that there is systemic racism..

Racism that is institutional, deliberate, encouraged, provided for, regulated for, given laws for etc...

Statistics showing crime levels, employment levels, educational achievement and participation does mean there is systemic racism..

The absolute key here is that nowhere in the U.S. is there a single law that targets color...

So, all these facts and stats can be debated and argued and explained..

They do not have to exist due to systemic racism.

MisterAnarchy

Cody montana wrote: »

They just had a huge movement last year regarding racism and police brutality.

Do you think that the police are inherently racist ?

walshb

Cody montana wrote: »

Erm, he's the president.
They just had a huge movement last year regarding racism and police brutality.

So calling out racism and calling to unite the country is dividing the country IYO.

You do know he's already elected, so he's not looking for votes.

Politicians are always looking for votes..

Don’t be so naive.

You do know they look ahead? To the future...

Votes.....

Biden is a member of a party. They don’t just stop looking for votes after they get someone into the White House...

everlast75

White men sitting behind a keyboard in Ireland weigh in on why, despite evidence to the contrary, they think black people aren't discriminated against in the U.S.

Amazing stuff really.

walshb

everlast75 wrote: »

White men sitting behind a keyboard in Ireland weigh in on why, despite evidence to the contrary, they think black people aren't discriminated against in the U.S.

Amazing stuff really.

And there are plenty black people who would be quite insulted listening to white peoples telling them that they are being discriminated against ..

Works both ways..

Whites getting offereded on behalf of black people can be quite sickening..

Faugheen

walshb wrote: »

And there are plenty black people who would be quite insulted listening to white peoples telling them that they are being discriminated against ..

Works both ways..

Whites getting offereded on behalf of black people can be quite sickening..

It really doesn't work both ways.

Also, nobody is getting offended here on behalf of black people. Just calling out nonsense for what it is.

extra gravy

everlast75 wrote: »

White men sitting behind a keyboard in Ireland weigh in on why, despite evidence to the contrary, they think black people aren't discriminated against in the U.S.

Amazing stuff really.

Their "opinions" consist of buzzwords and fake outrage. No actual knowledge or evidence to support their claims. Grown men that use "woke" as a slur aren't to be taken seriously.

Overheal

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

the country was founded on systemic racism. Racism was the law until a year or two before I was born. It hasn't gone away in the intervening years.

It's literally still in the constitution, as a form of punishment for crime. Amendment XIII.