Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

salmocab

I see someone is organising a good old fashioned word off. By gar it’s been awhile.

ohnonotgmail

salmocab wrote: »

I see someone is organising a good old fashioned word off. By gar it’s been awhile.

Presumably we would be playing by street rules?

salmocab

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Presumably we would be playing by street rules?

Absolutely, no pinching, no eye contact and first to tell their mammy loses

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

you really don't

I do, the difference is my broad mind compared the narrow one you possess.

eagle eye

Smee_Again wrote:

This is bizarre, you've picked a strange hill to die on here.

Nobody is dying here.

Smee_Again wrote:

As ohno said words have meanings, particularly on online platforms where its harder to convey tone etc.

Again this comes down to a narrow mind. A lot of people post as they talk, you have to accept that.

Smee_Again wrote:

Anyway, this is way OT so I'll leave it there.

I'll do the same.

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

I do, the difference is my broad mind compared the narrow one you possess.

A mind so broad that knowledge passes right through it.

eagle eye

Smee_Again wrote:

A mind so broad that knowledge passes right through it.

Now you are insulting me.
Are you willing to challenge me and put 1000 euro on the line, in person with an independent person calling the words and moderating it?

eagle eye

eagle eye wrote: »

Now you are insulting me.
Are you willing to challenge me and put 1000 euro on the line, in person with an independent person calling the words and moderating it?

Eh, your own post was insulting..

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

Now you are insulting me.
Are you willing to challenge me and put 1000 euro on the line, in person with an independent person calling the words and moderating it?

That depends, will it be moderated or censored?

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

I do, the difference is my broad mind compared the narrow one you possess.

and you complain about others insulting you. hypocrite.

EddieN75

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/biden-s-early-foreign-policy-strikingly-in-tune-with-trump-1.4557136

Irish times so far unimpressed with Bidens foreign policy.

(For some reason the article before sharing was pay walled but when clicking the link it can be read)

EddieN75

EddieN75 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/biden-s-early-foreign-policy-strikingly-in-tune-with-trump-1.4557136

Irish times so far unimpressed with Bidens foreign policy.

And what is your own opinion and why?

salmocab

EddieN75 wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/us/biden-s-early-foreign-policy-strikingly-in-tune-with-trump-1.4557136

Irish times so far unimpressed with Bidens foreign policy.

What about your opinion?

EddieN75

salmocab wrote: »

What about your opinion?

I agree with the article
Biden is keeping more trump era policies than he is removing.

What is your opinion

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

and you complain about others insulting you. hypocrite.

Is the truth an insult? It's been clear for a long time that you aren't able to think outside the box you live in. If anybody disagrees with you it's a war.
I'd recommend going for walks, they are great for relaxing the mind.

EddieN75

EddieN75 wrote: »

I agree with the article
Biden is keeping more trump era policies than he is removing.

What is your opinion

So you've read the title of the article. Well done.

What parts of the article do you agree with, and what parts do you disagree with?

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

Is the truth an insult? It's been clear for a long time that you aren't able to think outside the box you live in. If anybody disagrees with you it's a war.
I'd recommend going for walks, they are great for relaxing the mind.

condescending as well as insulting.

eagle eye

EddieN75 wrote:

Irish times so far unimpressed with Bidens foreign policy.

Not even four months in office and dealing with a pandemic and they are attacking foreign policy.
He's got a pandemic and a major divide in his country to deal with. You gotta fix your own house first.

everlast75

EddieN75 wrote: »

I agree with the article
Biden is keeping more trump era policies than he is removing.

What is your opinion

Wow - was it really so long ago that Trumpites were wringing their hands at the vast amount of executive orders Biden was making which undid Trump's policies?

But.. now, he isn't undoing them?

It is hard to keep up.

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

Wow - was it really so long ago that Trumpites were wringing their hands at the vast amount of executive orders Biden was making which undid Trump's policies?

Well that wasn't that poster of course, he's "new".

EddieN75

everlast75 wrote: »

Wow - was it really so long ago that Trumpites were wringing their hands at the vast amount of executive orders Biden was making which undid Trump's policies?

But.. now, he isn't undoing them?

It is hard to keep up.

I highly doubt that the Irish times are "Trumpites". They published the article.

The author laid out the comparison of policies and came to the conclusion

EddieN75

EddieN75 wrote: »

I highly doubt that the Irish times are "Trumpites". They published the article.

The author laid out the comparison of policies and came to the conclusion

Here is a nice summary of Biden's foreign policy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_policy_of_the_Joe_Biden_administration#:~:text=The%20foreign%20policy%20of%20the,challenges%20from%20Russia%20and%20China.

Explain to why you think it is so similar to Trump's policy and what you believe he should do differently. Rather than link dumping.

salmocab

EddieN75 wrote: »

I agree with the article
Biden is keeping more trump era policies than he is removing.

What is your opinion

I think Biden is doing okay with foreign policy, he’s barely in the door though and I’d be slow to judge him on what he hasn’t done yet. He scored an own goal on the refugee numbers but also was man enough to change it. Happy they are back in the Paris accord but it’s easier to sign up than do something so that would have to be judged in the future

EddieN75

salmocab wrote: »

I think Biden is doing okay with foreign policy, he’s barely in the door though and I’d be slow to judge him on what he hasn’t done yet. He scored an own goal on the refugee numbers but also was man enough to change it. Happy they are back in the Paris accord but it’s easier to sign up than do something so that would have to be judged in the future

Fair call. Out of everything he has or hasn't done immediately rejoining the Paris accord sent out a definitive message that the Us is back on board as a global team player.

Too soon to judge the other policies. Pandemic is all time consuming right now. Understandable

Baggly

Mod

Eagle Eye and ohnonotgmail - get back on topic and stop bickering or you will lose your posting privileges in this thread.

Dick phelan

I don't know why he's getting credit for pulling troops out of Afghanistan, it was Trump who made that deal.

Smee_Again

Dick phelan wrote: »

I don't know why he's getting credit for pulling troops out of Afghanistan, it was Trump who made that deal.

Simple, he actually has a plan to do it. Trump made the statement but never actually planned for the withdrawal, I don't think he even informed the Pentagon.

Cody montana

Dick phelan wrote: »

I don't know why he's getting credit for pulling troops out of Afghanistan, it was Trump who made that deal.

Why didn’t he do it so?
4 years!

Dick phelan

Dick phelan wrote: »

I don't know why he's getting credit for pulling troops out of Afghanistan, it was Trump who made that deal.

Do you think there would have been a full withdrawal of US troops from Afghanistan on May 1st if Trump was still president?

salmocab

Cody montana wrote: »

Why didn’t he do it so?
4 years!

He had a plan, he’d have shown it in two weeks time.

Cody montana

salmocab wrote: »

He had a plan, he’d have shown it in two weeks time.

Lol.
Did Biden run on pulling troops out of Afghanistan?
I don’t remember.

everlast75

Dick phelan wrote: »

I don't know why he's getting credit for pulling troops out of Afghanistan, it was Trump who made that deal.

Trump wasn't a fan of pulling out.

Or so Stormy Daniels said...

Necro

Folks, there's no need to engage in the manner of the posts I've just deleted. If you think someone is a re-reg, report it and let the mods deal with it. Cards will have to follow if this can't be adhered to going forward as it seems to happen every single time. Cheers

Brian?

biko wrote: »

Videos depicting murder yes, but non violent videos should be allowed.
We'll just have to trust people are intelligent enough to make the right decision.

Censoring means that I have a "I know better than you" attitude, but also even worse - that I want to keep you from watching something that will change your mind.
Like someone said; “Socialists don’t like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.”

Interesting. I agree.

But Facebook don't. They are a private corporation. Do you think governments should interfere in house Facebook moderate their content. And if so, where do we draw the line?

The cheap dig at socialism here is hilarious. We are talking about a massive corporation run by capitalists.

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Will be interesting to see what Biden does with criminal justice reform.
With his involvement in the controversial 1994 crime Bill and many activists already highlighting he hasn't kept most of his campaign criminal justice reform promises, will be an area of concern for the administration.

He is less than 10% through his presidential term. You should write him a letter telling him that you feel upset that he focused on other reforms first before the ones you are faux interested in.

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

What's with the snarkiness?

Because your comment is nothing but whataboutery.

How do you feel about the policies that Biden has implemented so far?

salmocab

EddieN75 wrote: »

When the Irish times and the Guardian are critical of his policies and actions you know that the cracks are starting to show

Well that’s just outrageous hyperbole. Cracks beginning to show Jesus you must be absolutely desperate for him to fail if that’s what your currently clinging to. Absolutely laughable nonsense

salmocab

EddieN75 wrote: »

When the Irish times and the Guardian are critical of his policies and actions you know that the cracks are starting to show

Well that’s just outrageous hyperbole. Cracks beginning to show Jesus you must be absolutely desperate for him to fail if that’s what your currently clinging to. Absolutely laughable nonsense

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Whataboutery?

Yes. "Will be interesting to see what Biden does with criminal justice reform" is nothing but whataboutery.

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Biden promised to end end mandatory minimum sentences for federal drug offenses.

But he seems to be doing the opposite:


Kara Gotsch, deputy director of the Sentencing Project, a nonprofit research organization seeking to reduce incarceration rates, said she is especially disappointed with the Biden administration because it supported renewing a policy that subjects individuals to mandatory minimum sentences for having trace amounts of fentanyl in their systems.

He kept it at a schedule I drug, which is the correct thing to do. It’s an incredibly powerful synthetic opioid which can knock someone out just via skin contact alone.

A ban on fentanyl has widespread bipartisan support.

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

You do realise that all heroin in the USA is basically laced with fentanyl so heroin addicts have no choice?

No, I do not realise that all heroin in the USA is basically laced with fentanyl as it's not true. I do however realise that that it is the case on occasion.

What is your source that states that all heroin in the USA is basically laced with fentanyl?

extra gravy

WhomadeGod wrote: »

many activists already highlighting he hasn't kept most of his campaign criminal justice reform promises

Remind me, when does his term end? Was he supposed to do everything in the first 100 days?

salmocab

extra gravy wrote: »

Remind me, when does his term end? Was he supposed to do everything in the first 100 days?

4 years following someone who was always about to do something was acceptable but someone that doesn’t do everything in 4 months is too much for them.

salmocab

extra gravy wrote: »

Remind me, when does his term end? Was he supposed to do everything in the first 100 days?

4 years following someone who was always about to do something was acceptable but someone that doesn’t do everything in 4 months is too much for them.

everlast75

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1390724854043774978?s=19

She is fantastic. It's a pity she's stepping down next year

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

...

I don't see how any of that answers my question.

Smee_Again

WhomadeGod wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-1ststepact-fail-idUSKBN2CO1JT

The most important peice of justice reform in decades The first step Act is sadly flaming out under the Biden administration.

The first step act signed off by Donald Trump was greatest peice of justice reform in a generation and took massive bipartisan efforts and is a shame its struggling considering the highlight Biden has put on justice reform and his promises to act on it.


Only Tuesday just gone the Biden Administration Flip-Flopped Its Position in Case Over Crack Cocaine Sentences. SCOTUS Did Not Seem Pleased.

https://lawandcrime.com/supreme-court/biden-administration-flip-flopped-its-position-in-case-over-crack-cocaine-sentences-scotus-did-not-seem-pleased/

No surprise there considering the Democrats brought in the 100:1 sentencing disparity between crack cocaine and powder.

Considering his questionable and controversianal history in reform along with his campaign promises it has been a poor start in this area.

I know the flip flop comment is a quote from the article but unless I’ve misunderstood, the Biden administration haven’t flip flopped. They have reversed the position of the previous administration and done so within 5 days of Garland being installed as AG.

They hadn’t taken a position to flip flop on.

WhomadeGod

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Dismal employment report for April and yes that's the word cnn used Dismal.

Economy not bouncing back as hoped with only 266,000 jobs added and not the 1 million as projected.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/economy/april-jobs-report-pandemic-anniversary/index.html

The US economy added only 266,000 jobs in April on the anniversary of the worst job loss for any month on record. That was far less than forecasts of economists, who had predicted America would add 1 million jobs last month.

The unemployment rate rose to 6.1% in April, up from 6% a month earlier, as more people returned to the labor force to look actively for work, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said Friday. The March jobs numbers were also revised down to 770,000 from 916,000 reported initially.

Why are you only posting negative news? And why are you not giving your own opinion? And why are you not answering questions?

eagle eye

WhomadeGod wrote:

Dismal employment report for April and yes that's the word cnn used Dismal.

Again like all reports at this time, if it's not about covid or fixing the divide then it's not something that's expected this early. He isn't even four months in the job.

francois

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Dismal

Self referential over-reach, beautiful Lacanian analysis... Oh wait

Smee_Again

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Dismal employment report for April and yes that's the word cnn used Dismal.

Economy not bouncing back as hoped with only 266,000 jobs added and not the 1 million as projected.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/07/economy/april-jobs-report-pandemic-anniversary/index.html

The US economy added only 266,000 jobs in April on the anniversary of the worst job loss for any month on record. That was far less than forecasts of economists, who had predicted America would add 1 million jobs last month.

The unemployment rate rose to 6.1% in April, up from 6% a month earlier, as more people returned to the labor force to look actively for work, the Bureau of Labor Statistics said Friday. The March jobs numbers were also revised down to 770,000 from 916,000 reported initially.

The word dismal doesn’t appear on that article.