Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Cody montana

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job and no condemnation of Israel's appalling bombardment of Palestinians, can Irish people please stop saying Biden is left wing.

Who said he was left wing?

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job and no condemnation of Israel's appalling bombardment of Palestinians, can Irish people please stop saying Biden is left wing.

nobody claims biden is left wing except Trump supporters and we all know what their opinion is worth.

salmocab

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job and no condemnation of Israel's appalling bombardment of Palestinians, can Irish people please stop saying Biden is left wing.

I doubt anybody thinks Biden is left wing or anything close to it. I’m sure some in America think he is but they have a very blinkered view of what that means.

Leroy42

WhomadeGod wrote: »

Couldn't of said it better myself.
The rigid idealogy of left leaning posters in this thread makes discourse impossible sadly.

I think its pretty obvious that you were not aware that 200 generals had endorsed Biden, since you earlier that that 124 was such a large number it just had to be treated seriously.

So one can see that even when presented with facts, instead of accepting them and looking to correct your basis of your opinion, you pull out the 'poor me' card.

On a free and open site where you are free to express your opinions you are lamenting that you are unable to have proper discoure.

Did you even stop for a second to consider that maybe, just maybe, its you that are doing it wrong?

pjohnson

Tbf I'd imagine some would call Cheney "left wing" because she doesnt drink the Trump kool aid.

hotmail.com

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

nobody claims biden is left wing except Trump supporters and we all know what their opinion is worth.

Trump supporters, should be pleased with what Biden is saying. They are probably the people who favour cutting social welfare and supporting Israel.

This is populism for America.

ohnonotgmail

Leroy42 wrote: »

I think its pretty obvious that you were not aware that 200 generals had endorsed Biden, since you earlier that that 124 was such a large number it just had to be treated seriously.

So one can see that even when presented with facts, instead of accepting them and looking to correct your basis of your opinion, you pull out the 'poor me' card.

On a free and open site where you are free to express your opinions you are lamenting that you are unable to have proper discoure.

Did you even stop for a second to consider that maybe, just maybe, its you that are doing it wrong?

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

Trump supporters, should be pleased with what Biden is saying. They are probably the people who favour cutting social welfare and supporting Israel.

This is populism for America.

who are these people who describe Biden as left wing? I would be grateful if you could clarify who you are referring to. In my experience it is only Trump supporters who do this.

pjohnson

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Jaysus that top sentence got shítmixed.

hotmail.com

America is such an odd military country, that war criminals (generals) are given so much publicity.

hotmail.com

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

who are these people who describe Biden as left wing? I would be grateful if you could clarify who you are referring to. In my experience it is only Trump supporters who do this.

Trump supporters. You just answered the question.

They have weirdly adopted American language and incorrectly applied it in Irish forums.

They criticise the Left when Biden isn't left wing.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job and no condemnation of Israel's appalling bombardment of Palestinians, can Irish people please stop saying Biden is left wing.

hotmail.com wrote: »

Trump supporters. You just answered the question.

They have weirdly adopted American language and incorrectly applied it in Irish forums.

They criticise the Left when Biden isn't left wing.

who has done that here?

hotmail.com

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

who has done that here?

One page ago, a poster is criticising people on here for being left wing nut jobs.

But they are not left wing at all. Supporters of Biden aren't left wing.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

Trump supporters. You just answered the question.

They have weirdly adopted American language and incorrectly applied it in Irish forums.

They criticise the Left when Biden isn't left wing.

You said Irish people are referring to Biden as left wing. Who are these people exactly? Are you addressing people in this thread? And which posters are you referring to?

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

One page ago, a poster is criticising people on here for being left wing nut jobs.

But they are not left wing at all. Supports of Biden aren't left wing.

Which post? The only post I can find is in reference to AOC and not Biden. Which post are you referring to?

hotmail.com

RopeADope wrote: »

The funny thing is a lot of people are surprised by Biden's actions. It's like they know nothing about this history and indeed the history of the democratic party.

Yeah, he had said in the past governments should cut social welfare to balance the books.

RopeADope

RopeADope wrote: »

The funny thing is a lot of people are surprised by Biden's actions.

Yep many Republicans are so surprised as to how good of a job he is doing, which is why his approval rating is higher than Trumps ever was.

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yep many Republicans are so surprised as to how good of a job he is doing, which is why his approval rating is higher than Trumps ever was.

So to hell with social welfare recipients and Arabs in the middle East?

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

So to hell with social welfare recipients and Arabs in the middle East?

Why are you asking me questions when you are ignoring mine and others? What posts are you referring to? Or are you making stuff up again?

salmocab

hotmail.com wrote: »

Trump supporters. You just answered the question.

They have weirdly adopted American language and incorrectly applied it in Irish forums.

They criticise the Left when Biden isn't left wing.

The left and left wing are very different things.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Or are you making stuff up again?

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job...

Just to answer my own question. What Biden actually said was that people who are receiving unemployment benefits must either take a job that is suitable or lose their benefits.

That is currently the law and has been the law for the past 30+ years in America. Why are you suddenly upset about this?

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just to answer my own question. What Biden actually said was that people who are receiving unemployment benefits must either take a job that is suitable or lose their benefits.

That is currently the law and has been the law for the past 30+ years in America. Why are you suddenly upset about this?

I'm not upset lol.

Appalling to support such a law which would put so many into dire poverty.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm not upset lol.

Appalling to support such a law which would put so many into dire poverty.

How? What?

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Just to answer my own question. What Biden actually said was that people who are receiving unemployment benefits must either take a job that is suitable or lose their benefits.

That is currently the law and has been the law for the past 30+ years in America. Why are you suddenly upset about this?

performative outrage

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How? What?

Losing benefits equals poverty. Keep up.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

Losing benefits equals poverty. Keep up.

You're aware that Ireland and most of the western world has the same law right?

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You're aware that Ireland and most of the western world has the same law right?

This is a Biden thread. I don't agree with cutting welfare for anyone. Biden does.

everlast75

hotmail.com wrote: »

This is a Biden thread. I don't agree with cutting welfare for anyone. Biden does.

So Biden isn't enough left wing for you?

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

This is a Biden thread. I don't agree with cutting welfare for anyone. Biden does.

Ah yes, the old "this is a Biden thread so I can't use counterexamples" rhetoric.

Yes, this is a Biden thread. All of the various presidents over the past 30+ years, including Biden, have been in support of means-tested unemployment benefit and it also has bipartisan support. Why are you suddenly upset about it?

salmocab

Well I don’t have interest in American politics and don’t understand why anyone would but here’s my outrage over something Biden did that I’ve never been outraged before about.

hotmail.com

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Ah yes, the old "this is a Biden thread so I can't use counterexamples" rhetoric.

Yes, this is a Biden thread. All of the various presidents over the past 30+ years, including Biden, have been in support of means-tested unemployment benefit and it also has bipartisan support. Why are you suddenly upset about it?

This just proves the point that both parties in America share similar economic policies.

There is no true centre left party in the States for the public to vote for.

And given that Biden said this a few days ago, I'm not suddenly upset. It's a relevant point for a Biden thread. Stop trying to bully me.

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

This just proves the point that both parties in America share similar economic policies.

There is no true centre left party in the States for the public to vote for.

And given that Biden said this a few days ago, I'm not suddenly upset. It's a relevant point for a Biden thread. Stop trying to bully me.

nobody has claimed there is. Well except those who think "left" is some sort of insult.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

This just proves the point that both parties in America share similar economic policies.

There is no true centre left party in the States for the public to vote for.

And given that Biden said this a few days ago, I'm not suddenly upset. It's a relevant point for a Biden thread. Stop trying to bully me.

You believe a centre left party would not want unemployment benefit to be means tested? Which centre left politicians have said that?

RopeADope

RopeADope wrote: »

What's Trump got to do with it, or the Republicans?

You incorrectly suggested something about Biden, and I demonstrated why it was incorrect.

everlast75

RopeADope wrote: »

What's Trump got to do with it, or the Republicans?

Anyone else hear that in a Tina Turner voice?

Anyhoo, most presidents are compared to their immediate predecessor

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

Anyone else hear that in a Tina Turner voice?

Anyhoo, most presidents are compared to their immediate predecessor

Yes, I started typing out the next lyrics but decided it would be dropping my post content to their standards. :pac:

BorneTobyWilde

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

ohnonotgmail

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

maybe they would have the sense to post about it on the trump thread though?

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

They wouldn't be if medical experts stated that it was no longer necessary.

BorneTobyWilde

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

After receiving both doses of the vaccine and with the backing of the CDC is pretty different to Trump who actively encouraged it mid pandemic...

everlast75

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

Maybe I'm missing your point here but....

1) He did say that - during a pandemic when no vaccines had been administered, despite masks being recommended.
At last count, over 550,000 have died from COVID19 in the U.S.

2) Biden has only said so on the advice of the CDC and only for those that have been vaccinated

Smee_Again

I'm really enjoying the drive-bys from the Trump cultists, Biden is obviously performing quite well so they've been reduced to posting one liners, often without context, and then running away.

Smee_Again

Smee_Again wrote: »

they've been reduced to posting one liners, often without context, and then running away.

As is tradition.

Tell me how

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

Trump undermined the use of masks enough while 10,000 a week were dying.
Biden is acknowledging the progress that has been made in terms of the control of the virus and the quantities which have been vaccinated.

Do you still think he should be directing policy based on facts from 12 months ago?

rossie1977

hotmail.com wrote: »

This just proves the point that both parties in America share similar economic policies.

They absolutely do not

mcmoustache

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Can you imagine the fits of absolute craziness people would be having if Trump came out and said no need to wear masks indoors anymore.

There's so much wrong here that I do wonder if maybe we shouldn't let everyone have access to the internet for their own good.

For starters, that isn't what Biden said. He said vaccinated people don't need to wear masks indoors. What you think he said and what he actually said are very, very different. In fact, he said it multiple times in multiple forms and the advice was underpinned by the CDC so I don't know how anyone could be this confused about it. It's really very simple - so simple that even the guys in here who get their news from conspiracy theorists and misinformation sources didn't get as confused as you did.

Brian?

hotmail.com wrote: »

In a week where Biden said people should have their benefits cut if they don't take a job and no condemnation of Israel's appalling bombardment of Palestinians, can Irish people please stop saying Biden is left wing.

What a straw man!! That's an absolute beauty.

People have spent years saying the democrats weren't left wing, only trumpets and wing nuts think they are. And you come along with this absolute hum dinger!

That's me entertained for the day

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

After receiving both doses of the vaccine and with the backing of the CDC is pretty different to Trump who actively encouraged it mid pandemic...

It's like comparing:

"Everybody can now jump out of this plane"

to

"Everyone wearing a parachute can jump out of this plane. The rest of you need to wait until we land."

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

maybe they would have the sense to post about it on the trump thread though?

Well said.

BorneTobyWilde

Tell me how wrote: »

Trump undermined the use of masks enough while 10,000 a week were dying.
Biden is acknowledging the progress that has been made in terms of the control of the virus and the quantities which have been vaccinated.

Do you still think he should be directing policy based on facts from 12 months ago?

Should be no mask wearing here in that case