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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,847 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    It's amazing how many hold a grudge against AOC, it's almost like in their eyes an outspoken, successful, who champions equality and for the workers, opinionated woman should have completely the opposite qualities


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,808 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    to people who have been implying that Biden isn't doing a lot of work. This art on his efforts at bipartisanship on the Infrastructure Bill alone shows otherwise;
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/15/biden-compromise-effort-infrastructure-bill-republicans-democrats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    duploelabs wrote:
    It's amazing how many hold a grudge against AOC, it's almost like in their eyes an outspoken, successful, who champions equality and for the workers, opinionated woman should have completely the opposite qualities
    I don't despise her. I'm just commentating on how I see her. She does a lot if good things but she has that evil streak in her where you are a target if you are in her way and it doesn't matter if you are a good or evil person if you get in her way, she'll try and destroy you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I don't despise her. I'm just commentating on how I see her. She does a lot if good things but she has that evil streak in her where you are a target if you are in her way and it doesn't matter if you are a good or evil person if you get in her way, she'll try and destroy you.

    Can you give an example of her trying to destroy a good person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Can you give an example of her trying to destroy a good person?
    I think the Pelosi thing is a good example.
    Now I do despise Pelosi but calling her out like she did was clearly a move to advance her own career.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I think the Pelosi thing is a good example.
    Now I do despise Pelosi but calling her out like she did was clearly a move to advance her own career.

    Civilly criticising a fellow politician for their actions is not the same as trying to destroy a good person.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,927 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I think the Pelosi thing is a good example.
    Now I do despise Pelosi but calling her out like she did was clearly a move to advance her own career.

    Can you provide a link to this example


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Civilly criticising a fellow politician for their actions is not the same as trying to destroy a good person.
    It was big news suggesting she might be racist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Overheal wrote:
    Can you provide a link to this example

    It's already been linked by somebody else quoting me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,927 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It was big news suggesting she might be racist.

    What makes it evil? What is the quote?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It was big news suggesting she might be racist.

    Did she call her a racist or did she just comment on the actions of Pelosi? Because that's not destroying a good person. Have you any other examples of her trying to destroy a good person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Did she call her a racist or did she just comment on the actions of Pelosi? Because that's not destroying a good person. Have you any other examples of her trying to destroy a good person?

    It's in a post at 13.03 today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,927 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's already been linked by somebody else quoting me.

    Playing hide the spoon?

    What is the quote? You say it was evil. I see an Independent UK link above and no evil context within. Nothing targeting Pelosi so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. Honest question: what was said and how is it evil?

    You don’t have to answer of course but anything said without evidence will be dismissed without evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I think the Pelosi thing is a good example.
    Now I do despise Pelosi but calling her out like she did was clearly a move to advance her own career.

    You were asked for an example of her doing it to a good person and give an example of someone you despise.
    AOC strikes me as the sort of politician America needs, not afraid of pushing for what she believes. I think fear of being called a commie or a socialist has held back plenty of people from doing the right thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    eagle eye wrote: »
    It's in a post at 13.03 today.

    I read it. She highlighted a pattern of behaviour by Pelosi - for which there appears to be evidence. Can you tell me how this is an example of her destroying a good person?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    The rigid ideology of the left is shining through in this thread.

    You can't understand why someone doesn't like someone you like.
    I am not fond of AOC and have given my opinions as to why.

    You give your opinions on why you hate Donald Trump so much everyday and I accept that.

    Variety is the spice of life my friends.

    Don't know if you are including me in this sweeping generalisation, but I am not "of the left".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,927 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Reminder: Jen Psaki has no time for your “many people are saying” bull****

    https://www.mediaite.com/news/watch-jen-psaki-badgers-reporter-into-telling-her-which-critics-are-demanding-border-visit/

    Q And what do you say to those who are criticizing the President and Vice President, who have not, to date, made a in-person visit to the Southwest border?

    MS. PSAKI: Who are tho- — who are those?

    Q Those who have criticized. There have been —

    MS. PSAKI: Like who?

    Q There have been lots of people criticizing the fact that they’ve not made the — a trip to the border yet.

    MS. PSAKI: Like who?

    Q Criticism from those in the Republican Party, criticism from others.

    MS. PSAKI: Well, I don’t know who I’m responding to, but what I will say is that the President’s focus and the —

    Q I’ll say that, just the other day, one of the senators held a press conference where that was a major criticism — the fact that —

    MS. PSAKI: “One of the senators.” Okay.

    Q Yes.

    MS. PSAKI: Well, the President —

    Q Senator Scott.

    MS. PSAKI: Senator —

    Q Senator Rick Scott.

    MS. PSAKI: Senator Rick Scott. Okay. Well, the President’s focus and the Vice President’s focus is on solutions. And what our — what we’ve seen over the past several months is that, while we came in and there were — was little preparation for what was going to be a surge of migrants at the border, what we’ve done since then is rapid — or is massively reduced the number of children who are at Border Patrol facilities from over 5,000 to under 1,000 — the pro- — the number is probably even lower than that now — and massively reduced the number of hours that these children are spending in these facilities.

    So, our focus is on working in — through the interagency process, pressing to eliminate bureaucracy, and making sure that we’re taking steps that treat them in a humane and moral way. And we’re less worried about press conferences or political games that are being played by some.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,431 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    The rigid ideology of the left is shining through in this thread.

    You can't understand why someone doesn't like someone you like.
    I am not fond of AOC and have given my opinions as to why.

    You give your opinions on why you hate Donald Trump so much everyday and I accept that.

    Variety is the spice of life my friends.

    Sir, this is a Wendy’s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,796 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    The rigid ideology of the left is shining through in this thread.

    You can't understand why someone doesn't like someone you like.
    I am not fond of AOC and have given my opinions as to why.

    You give your opinions on why you hate Donald Trump so much everyday and I accept that.

    Variety is the spice of life my friends.

    Jebus, back to the whinging that everyone is against you.

    You have an opinion. Posters have asked why you have that opinion, and there is no basis.

    You just don't. If you don't respect yourself enough to actually educate yourself, why do you expect others to respect your opinion.

    Nobody is stopping you from having an opinion, just as nobody is stopping you from posting ill thought out opinions. But you even respect, you don't just get it.

    Start backing up opinions with facts and evidence rather than simply bias and feelings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I think the Pelosi thing is a good example.
    Now I do despise Pelosi but calling her out like she did was clearly a move to advance her own career.

    Why do you despise Pelosi?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,383 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Very much included.

    Okay. You remain wrong but I actually couldn't care less how you define me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,053 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    salmocab wrote:
    You were asked for an example of her doing it to a good person and give an example of someone you despise. AOC strikes me as the sort of politician America needs, not afraid of pushing for what she believes. I think fear of being called a commie or a socialist has held back plenty of people from doing the right thing.
    While I despise her many in this thread love her.
    Now they are in denial as to the seriousness of the comments by AOC who they love too.
    Just to clarify, I've always been a democrat supporter but I'm not afraid to be honest and say I don't like or trust a Democrat. I'm also not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.
    We have many in this thread who can't do any of that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    Okay. You remain wrong but I actually couldn't care less how you define me.

    Ah you don’t understand, don’t like Trump is equal to lefty libtard. There is no middle ground when you have jumped on board the express. Then without a shred of self awareness claims the left are rigid.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    The rigid ideology of the left is shining through in this thread.

    You can't understand why someone doesn't like someone you like.
    I am not fond of AOC and have given my opinions as to why.

    You give your opinions on why you hate Donald Trump so much everyday and I accept that.

    Variety is the spice of life my friends.

    You have said AOC has no beliefs, and when you were presented with reasons as to why that is absolute horsesh*t, you said 'that's your opinion'.

    You make sweeping, nonsense statements then run away when your bollocks is called out.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Couldn't of said it better myself.

    That's because you don't actually have any thoughts of your own.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,927 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Couldn't of said it better myself.

    We know


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    salmocab wrote: »
    Ah you don’t understand, don’t like Trump is equal to lefty libtard. There is no middle ground when you have jumped on board the express. Then without a shred of self awareness claims the left are rigid.




    The dislike for Trump is quite bipartisan. I think some simpler types assume that those who dislike Trump must be on the left because Trump is the face of some country's right-wing party.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Couldn't of said it better myself.


    It's "couldn't HAVE". Not "couldn't OF". That doesn't even make any sense. You can't "of" something. I only mention it because this is the second time you've typed that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,075 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    eagle eye wrote: »
    While I despise her many in this thread love her.
    Now they are in denial as to the seriousness of the comments by AOC who they love too.
    Just to clarify, I've always been a democrat supporter but I'm not afraid to be honest and say I don't like or trust a Democrat. I'm also not afraid to admit when I'm wrong.
    We have many in this thread who can't do any of that.

    I'm not saying you aren't, but I can say that I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any evidence of you being a Democrat supporter in your contributions here.

    But again, I'm not sayin you are not, but can you give examples of Democrat politicians currently active who you respect and think should be leading voices in the party.

    You've said you don't like AOC, (to the point of not believing videos of people harassing her), you despise Pelosi, and I'm pretty sure you said Biden was a bad choice for Presidential nominee but maybe I'm confusing you with someone else so given this view of prominent Democrats, I'm curious who tickles your fancy in the party and why.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,075 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Couldn't of said it better myself.

    Don't be so hard on yourself.

    You could have copy and pasted it, like you do within most posts. That would be at least equal as to how the other poster posted it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,075 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    everlast75 wrote: »

    That's all part of their strategic narrative.

    Hannity asks the leading question by focusing on the energy of Biden, versus that of Trump and McCarthy responds focusing on this and actually (probably mistakenly) praising Biden by saying he was alert, on point and engaging, before then talking (again somewhat erroneously) about Trumps sleeping habits.

    Fox correspondents and right wing media will push this narrative by saying Biden appears to be be tired or lethargic when compared to Trump and it will be another seed planted for future harvesting where they say that even early on in Biden's Presidency law makers were saying that he seemed tired by it all and at that point, they won't point out that it was the leader of the GOP who said it, that he actually said positive things about him or that it was a leading question.

    Dan Bongino, Candace Owens, Ben Shapiro, et al will already have copy ready to go with this.
    Democrats should immediately push the same tape and make a talking point of McCarthy saying that Biden was alert and engaging and then show images of Trump looking deflated from his last Presidency with footage of Biden riding a bike and asking is it really believable that the former President living on a diet of fast food and Coca Cola has more energy that the fit current occupant of the office.

    Fight fire with fire basically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭charlie_says


    Has anyone figured out what time of day Biden won't do any pressers or be seen by press/public after? He seems to have a late afternoon curfew.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭francois


    Has anyone figured out what time of day Biden won't do any pressers or be seen by press/public after? He seems to have a late afternoon curfew.

    lame sleepy Joe attempt


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Has anyone figured out what time of day Biden won't do any pressers or be seen by press/public after? He seems to have a late afternoon curfew.


    Be the change you want to see. Go figure it out for yourself. Don't be getting everyone else to do your work for you.


    You'll be a better person for it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    francois wrote: »
    lame sleepy Joe attempt


    I don't know. I think it's more that he thinks the job of a president is to rant and rave about his grievances for hours. Like Castro or Chavez.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,075 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Has anyone figured out what time of day Biden won't do any pressers or be seen by press/public after? He seems to have a late afternoon curfew.

    Haven't you heard?
    He doesn't do any press conferences at all, ever, because he is not able to concentrate hard enough to both stand up and read the teleprompter and if anyone asks him a question he suffers a narcoleptic attack and immediately falls asleep which lasts for between 12 and 14 hours.

    And he still has a higher satisfaction rating than the last President ever achieved.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Haven't you heard?
    He doesn't do any press conferences at all, ever, because he is not able to concentrate hard enough to both stand up and read the teleprompter and if anyone asks him a question he suffers a narcoleptic attack and immediately falls asleep which lasts for between 12 and 14 hours.

    And he still has a higher satisfaction rating than the last President ever achieved.

    and gets a lot more done.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,432 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    and gets a lot more done.

    But how can we know how great he’s doing if he isn’t constantly telling us?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,568 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    salmocab wrote: »
    But how can we know how great he’s doing if he isn’t constantly telling us?

    an attitude that is perhaps understandable in teenagers but very sad for a man in his 70s.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,693 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    The rigid ideology of the left is shining through in this thread.

    You can't understand why someone doesn't like someone you like.
    I am not fond of AOC and have given my opinions as to why.

    You give your opinions on why you hate Donald Trump so much everyday and I accept that.

    Variety is the spice of life my friends.

    You haven't given your opinions. You've said you don't like her

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    What exactly are you objecting to? Plenty of Irish politicians and members of the public would agree.
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/aoc-palestinian-israel-biden-policy-b1847382.html


    I'm objecting to the fact that she had to shoehorn the southern border crisis, with the killing of innocent children in Gaza.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    I'm objecting to the fact that she had to shoehorn the southern border crisis, with the killing of innocent children in Gaza.

    Why? Can she not speak about two issues at the same time?

    Are women only capable of talking about one thing at a time or do you not have the capacity to discuss more than one issue at a time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Faugheen wrote: »
    Why? Can she not speak about two issues at the same time?

    Are women only capable of talking about one thing at a time or do you not have the capacity to discuss more than one issue at a time?




    Go away with your misogyny nonsense.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Go away with your misogyny nonsense.

    I asked you a question.

    What's the problem with comparing two situations of humanitarian disaster?

    Just seems like a weird hill to die on, that's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Faugheen wrote: »
    I asked you a question.

    What's the problem with comparing two situations of humanitarian disaster?

    Just seems like a weird hill to die on, that's all.




    You're trying to label me for your own gratification.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    You're trying to label me for your own gratification.

    No, I'm simply asking you why you have such an issue with someone comparing two instances of humanitarian disaster.

    You're then going around in circles and telling me to go away.

    So you either haven't an answer or you do and you haven't the balls to say it, so either way you post in bad faith.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Faugheen wrote: »
    No, I'm simply asking you why you have such an issue with someone comparing two instances of humanitarian disaster.

    You're then going around in circles and telling me to go away.

    So you either haven't an answer or you do and you haven't the balls to say it, so either way you post in bad faith.




    If you think comparing the kids on the southern border with the kids in Gaza has any truth to it, you're not worth an answer.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    If you think comparing the kids on the southern border with the kids in Gaza has any truth to it, you're not worth an answer.

    "We have to have the courage to name our contributions and sometimes I can’t help but wonder if the reason we don’t do that, if we’re scared to stand up to the incarceration of children in Palestine is because maybe it’ll force us to confront the incarceration here at our border."

    Sounds like an accurate statement to me. What's wrong with it?

    Funny how I'm not 'worth an answer' after challenging people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,668 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    Faugheen wrote: »
    "We have to have the courage to name our contributions and sometimes I can’t help but wonder if the reason we don’t do that, if we’re scared to stand up to the incarceration of children in Palestine is because maybe it’ll force us to confront the incarceration here at our border."

    Sounds like an accurate statement to me. What's wrong with it?

    Funny how I'm not 'worth an answer' after challenging people.

    And she didn't actually compare the two but why let facts get in the way of some good old fake outrage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,526 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    Faugheen wrote: »
    "We have to have the courage to name our contributions and sometimes I can’t help but wonder if the reason we don’t do that, if we’re scared to stand up to the incarceration of children in Palestine is because maybe it’ll force us to confront the incarceration here at our border."

    Sounds like an accurate statement to me. What's wrong with it?

    Funny how I'm not 'worth an answer' after challenging people.


    I don't see people traffickers throwing kids over the Israeli border.



    I see them at the southern border.


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