Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

extra gravy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Anyway, I'll leave you and extra gravy to spar it out.

Ha no thanks, I've better things to do with my evening than engage with that kind of crap.

extra gravy

extra gravy wrote: »

Ha no thanks, I've better things to do with my evening than engage with that kind of crap.

"I can't dismiss him as a Trumper and have no other debate tactic."

MisterAnarchy

astrofool wrote: »

More seriously, I think laying out a bit what you think Biden should do, rather than Biden bad man, would help move conversation forward. He's a centre right politician, so the things he does will generally be centre right as well, he won't be for the same wage for everyone, but he does think that females and males should be paid equally, but a female doctor will make more than a male nurse (just to get the ball rolling). There is also another thread on the soccer players pay that you can contribute to, but I'd encourage you to be up front with what your solutions are rather than saying how bad everything is.

He is a politician who seems obsessed with using identity politics for his own gain.
Any old bandwagon he will jump on.
Its virtue signalling over substance.

astrofool

astrofool wrote: »

Given the history of the planet, I would imagine the left have nothing but failures from dismal to spectacular :pac:

More seriously, I think laying out a bit what you think Biden should do, rather than Biden bad man, would help move conversation forward. He's a centre right politician, so the things he does will generally be centre right as well, he won't be for the same wage for everyone, but he does think that females and males should be paid equally, but a female doctor will make more than a male nurse (just to get the ball rolling). There is also another thread on the soccer players pay that you can contribute to, but I'd encourage you to be up front with what your solutions are rather than saying how bad everything is.

What solutions are you look for specifically?

I've contributed to the aforementioned soccer thread, quite robustly.

I wouldn't pay anyone playing for their country, the same way I don't think GAA players should be paid for playing for their county.

Necro

extra gravy wrote: »

Ha no thanks, I've better things to do with my evening than engage with that kind of crap.

Deleted User wrote: »

"I can't dismiss him as a Trumper and have no other debate tactic."

Mod:

Folks if you can't post in a civil manner stick each other on ignore. Cheers.

Necro

Necro wrote: »

Mod:

Folks if you can't post in a civil manner stick each other on ignore. Cheers.

I'm more than happy to chat to Extra Gravy.

eagle eye

BanditLuke wrote:

Biden has made zero effort into fulfilling his election promise to end the forever wars in places like Syria. It's hilarious that Biden's administration includes many hawks from the Obama years who are eager to return to the policy that witnessed saint Obama bomb seven sovereign nations in 6 short years.

All this signals a return to business as usual where the state department and pentagon spearhead America's imperialist ambitions abroad.

The swamp is back in action.

What would you say we're the most critical issues for Biden coming into office? Maybe covid and the economy? He's done serious work in those two areas. Do you accept that?

So two months in office and great strides made in the two most critical areas. How about you give him a little more time to get more stuff done?

astrofool

Deleted User wrote: »

What solutions are you look for specifically?

I've contributed to the aforementioned soccer thread, quite robustly.

I wouldn't pay anyone playing for their country, the same way I don't think GAA players should be paid for playing for their county.

It might just be me, but your entire schtick so far seems to be pot shots and responses of "I'm not a trumper" which is fine, but engage in meaningful debate and people will respond in kind. If you want a capitalism vs. socialism debate, this probably isn't the right place for it either.

The US women's primary earning is from their matches for the USA, if you don't pay them there is really no professional women's soccer in the US that could survive (the quality would drop as it became part time). GAA players are being very much taken advantage of by their counties given the amount they seem to be paying the coaches and the amount of investment going into it, their career earnings seem to get paid in free pints down the local (which leads men to head to Australia to earn a proper living dropping the standard of athlete remaining even further).

I'm still looking for the Biden angle here though.

MisterAnarchy

extra gravy wrote: »

Ah you're back with this shïte. Equality isn't your thing, we get it.

You are getting confused with equity.
Equality is good, equity is not.

astrofool

astrofool wrote: »

It might just be me, but your entire schtick so far seems to be pot shots and responses of "I'm not a trumper" which is fine, but engage in meaningful debate and people will respond in kind. If you want a capitalism vs. socialism debate, this probably isn't the right place for it either.

The US women's primary earning is from their matches for the USA, if you don't pay them there is really no professional women's soccer in the US that could survive (the quality would drop as it became part time). GAA players are being very much taken advantage of by their counties given the amount they seem to be paying the coaches and the amount of investment going into it, their career earnings seem to get paid in free pints down the local (which leads men to head to Australia to earn a proper living dropping the standard of athlete remaining even further).

I'm still looking for the Biden angle here though.

Don't pretend you don't know what you're talking about.

Water John

The negative vibe to female athletes has a couple of obvious connotations and the USA soccer team, also has Megan Rapinoe.

I'm still here.

astrofool

Deleted User wrote: »

Don't pretend you don't know what you're talking about.

Next time someone doesn't spend time debating with you, you'll know why (and it won't be the validity of your arguments).

Ted_YNWA

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm still here.

Mod

If you want to stay here, keep it polite.

astrofool wrote: »

Next time someone doesn't spend time debating with you, you'll know why (and it won't be the validity of your arguments).

Same for you

Ted_YNWA

Ted_YNWA wrote: »

Mod

If you want to stay here, keep it polite.




Same for you

Hold on a minute, people can post inane Biden vs. Trump drivel but when I talk about actual issues I get two warnings?

duploelabs

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/544047-senators-call-on-biden-to-officially-recognize-armenian-genocide

Apparently this will happen in the next week or so, be interesting to see how Turkey reacts

Hande hoche!

duploelabs wrote: »

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/544047-senators-call-on-biden-to-officially-recognize-armenian-genocide

Apparently this will happen in the next week or so, be interesting to see how Turkey reacts

That might be a good idea to pursue. The Turks at the moment are fairly triumphant with how their backing of Azerbaijan in the last conflict went. Might boost Armenia a bit. Smart thinking by Biden's crowd, if they actually go ahead with.

duploelabs

Hande hoche! wrote: »

That might be a good idea to pursue. The Turks at the moment are fairly triumphant with how their backing of Azerbaijan in the last conflict went. Might boost Armenia a bit. Smart thinking by Biden's crowd, if they actually go ahead with.

Considering the motivation for Trump's moving of troops from Syria was because of personal leverage, I would expect a sterner hand from the Biden admin on Turkey

Hande hoche!

duploelabs wrote: »

Considering the motivation for Trump's moving of troops from Syria was because of personal leverage, I would expect a sterner hand from the Biden admin on Turkey

Part of the restraint is caused is access to an airbase in Turkey by US forces. Might be an opportunity to pull out from it during a quieter time by Middle Eastern standards. Remove a bit of Turkish leverage. Will be interesting to see what steps a Biden administration takes in the Middle East.

charlie_says

Igotadose wrote: »

Proof? Extremely effective? Here's a meta study showing it absolutely isn't.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-77748-x



Uhh, comparing masks, to respirators, on their impact on spreading? Huh? By the time you're on a respirator, you're in the hospital with severe Covid.



Are those criminals still publishing? Somehow, I have low expectations on any proof you plan to provide if this site and it's ilk are your sources.

HCQ at as I said, at low doses, check the sources and their doses in that nature.com study, is effective and is used regularly in countries where it is authorized, given the right dosage with good results.

See here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924857920303423

Most of the other studies, including some in that nature study were discontinued for various reasons. Also the poisoned lancet study kneecapped several ongoing studies because Orange Hitler siad something something fascism.

Unfortunetly we now live in the era of blatant politicisation of medicine. It's fine that people disagree. Many doctors perscribe this drug anyway so it is what it is.

Btw respirators is the correct name for a FFP2/FFP3/N95/N99 breathing barrier are you talking about ventilators? A mask is a non techincal term, usually people who know the nomenclature use the correct term.

Also are Project Veritas criminals, with convictions? Do tell.

Igotadose

charlie_says wrote: »

HCQ at as I said, at low doses, check the sources and their doses in that nature.com study, is effective and is used regularly in countries where it is authorized, given the right dosage with good results.

See here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0924857920303423

It's one study finding that HCQ might've improved some outcomes, mostly for males. A meta-study has the benefit of drawing data from many place, not just one, small (on the Covid scale) set of data from Belgium.

And, it does point out the hazards of HCQ due to other reasons (cardiotoxcity.)

Extremely effective is not proven.

Btw respirators is the correct name for a FFP2/FFP3/N95/N99 breathing barrier are you talking about ventilators? A mask is a non techincal term, usually people who know the nomenclature use the correct term.

Thanks for clarifying. We agree a proper mask is effective for preventing the spread of Covid.

Also are Project Veritas criminals, with convictions? Do tell.

Just look up James O'Keefe. One example: https://apnews.com/article/f8cfe574de204507a70249e5cf529c23

1800_Ladladlad

How is this good for optics? To allow journalists in the room and then to be shouted down and drowned out by a handler who conitues to scurry people out of the room. Why is this administration afraid of the press..

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1376964686713880576

ohnonotgmail

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

How is this good for optics? To allow journalists in the room and then to be shouted down and drowned out by a handler who conitues to scurry people out of the room. Why is this administration afraid of the press..

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1376964686713880576

what actually happened? how can you tell who is shouting?

Leroy42

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

How is this good for optics? To allow journalists in the room and then to be shouted down and drowned out by a handler who conitues to scurry people out of the room. Why is this administration afraid of the press..

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1376964686713880576

Really? Is this the first one of these you have ever seen? Almost every time it is the same.

POTUS wants to sign something and then bask. in the glory and the photo op. Hand out a few pens. Press doesn't care about the bill, wants to know about Issue X, or Country B, or whatever.

Smee_Again

My guess is that is how nearly all photo ops end, reporters shouting questions while being ushered out so that POTUS can move on to the next important task.

Faugheen

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

How is this good for optics? To allow journalists in the room and then to be shouted down and drowned out by a handler who conitues to scurry people out of the room. Why is this administration afraid of the press..

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1376964686713880576

It's called a photo op, and it happens in every single country.

Another wild swing and miss from your good self.

ancapailldorcha

1800_Ladladlad wrote: »

How is this good for optics? To allow journalists in the room and then to be shouted down and drowned out by a handler who conitues to scurry people out of the room. Why is this administration afraid of the press..

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1376964686713880576

A carefully edited video from a random Twitter account by the looks of it. No thanks.

duploelabs

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

A carefully edited video from a random Twitter account by the looks of it. No thanks.

Like the sun rises in the east and sets in the west, the posting pattern from this 'contributor' remains the same

MisterAnarchy

Looks like Biden will indeed be a great friend of Ireland.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/biden-s-global-minimum-tax-rate-carries-big-dangers-for-ireland-1.4525075

The Republic’s 12.5 per cent corporate tax rate is facing a new threat, with the United States signalling its support today for a global minimum corporate tax rate of 21 per cent on its companies.

Proposals emerging from the White House on Wednesday say the US administration intends to push for this new global minimum rate to be passed by Congress – essentially meaning US companies here would have to pay a top-up tax in the US after paying at 12.5 per cent here.

Ireland would then face the choice of whether to increase the Irish rate to try to capture more of the additional tax here. It is difficult to predict what this would mean for Irish corporate tax in the longer term – but it would certainly remove one of the key factors which has attracted US investment here for many years.

Hardly in the door and Biden is planning the first major federal tax hike since 1993.

So the latest scandal is not a scandal again... President of america putting US interests first on taxation front. Firstly, I don't see it causing a MNC exodus from Ireland. Secondly he's doing he's doing his job...