Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

everlast75

https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1383464846239272968?s=19

Trump supporters - SEE? BIDEN IS JUST THE SAME AS TRUMP!!!!

Hande hoche!

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1383464846239272968?s=19

Trump supporters - SEE? BIDEN IS JUST THE SAME AS TRUMP!!!!

Think Jimmy Carter was the most recent non golfer.

frag420

everlast75 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/tylerpager/status/1383464846239272968?s=19

Trump supporters - SEE? BIDEN IS JUST THE SAME AS TRUMP!!!!

In fairness to Trump he did have a bigger handicap...

Duff Man Jr.

Brian? wrote: »

I think you’re confusing the Pentagon with the CIA. The CIA do the deception and the soldiers the pentagon send end up dead.

My bad, pentagon\CIA or whoever. (The exact department doesn't matter) My point is I don't believe "them" when "they" say they need more time, and you have the opposite view. Would you agree?

Brian?

Duff Man Jr. wrote: »

My bad, pentagon\CIA or whoever. (The exact department doesn't matter) My point is I don't believe "them" when "they" say they need more time, and you have the opposite view. Would you agree?

It really does matter who “they” are in this context. The CIA are professional liars. The Pentagon are the military command who are really only responsible for execution. They implement the strategy of the Commander in Chief. When the Commander in Chief is an out of control egomaniac I believe them when they say they were caught by surprise.

If it was the CIA saying the US needed to stay longer I wouldn’t believe a word of it.

biko

everlast75 wrote: »

Trump supporters - SEE? BIDEN IS JUST THE SAME AS TRUMP!!!!

Aren't you supposed to wait for Trump supporters to say anything before you lay into them?

ohnonotgmail

biko wrote: »

Aren't you supposed to wait for Trump supporters to say anything before you lay into them?

well as it is obvious what nonsense they will come out with it it is generous of other posters to do it for them.

biko

That's convenient. Not even waiting for the opposition.

I doubt many in the opposition are worried about his golf game, the riots and the border are the focus.

For instance, Joe Biden said climate change has impacted the southern border crisis.
But Central American countries haven't been invited to the White House climate summit.

weisses

biko wrote: »

That's convenient. Not even waiting for the opposition.

I doubt many in the opposition are worried about his golf game, the riots and the border are the focus.

Are you sure ? .... Last time I checked they were hugely concerned with mister potato head ?

Professor Moriarty

biko wrote: »

That's convenient. Not even waiting for the opposition.

I doubt many in the opposition are worried about his golf game, the riots and the border are the focus.

For instance, Joe Biden said climate change has impacted the southern border crisis.
But Central American countries haven't been invited to the White House climate summit.

From the article:

"Ober said the absence might be a sign the Biden administration is looking to avoid derailing more direct conversations on immigration. Mr. Biden has put forth a $4 billion, four-year plan to address the root causes of Central American migration."

Fair play to Biden for doing this. Makes sense.

biko

Your whole comment is built on a guess by Ober.

Why would those governments not be able to discuss two separate issues. They aren't stupid are they?

Professor Moriarty

biko wrote: »

Your whole comment is built on a guess by Ober.

Why would those governments not be able to discuss two separate issues. They aren't stupid are they?

I would assume they're not stupid. It's obvious that the 4 billion and climate change are linked, so both interlinked matters would be best discussed with those who will be in receipt of the money. Makes perfect sense.

hotmail.com

Bizarre intervention from Biden on the murder trial of the police man.

He could have waited til the verdict was in to make remarks on the subject.

In Ireland, this would collapse a court case.

Overheal

The Floyd p wrote: »

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Being better than your predecessor in a narrow way doesn't make you a good president by any means. This thread feels incredibly apologetic of Joe Biden, despite not rowing back any of Trump's border policies in a meaningful way.
He's throwing the USA back into the Iran deal, despite expecting Iran to accept bad terms despite the USA being the ones who left!

How many times have we heard the We're leaving Afghanistan! shtick? Longest war in USA history. I heard Biden say similar before.

HUFFINGTON POST 12/19/2010 10:54 am ET Updated Dec 06, 2017
Joe Biden: We’ll Be Out Of Afghanistan By 2014, ‘Come Hell Or High Water’

He's desperate and the Dems will give up ground in the mid-terms if there is any will in the populace.

You’d swear the president colluded with Russians, fired public officials to defend coconspirators and used the first 10 days of his presidency to focus on the crowd size at his inauguration.

But yes, let’s pretend there’s no reason Biden enjoys the bar of low expectations. To be clear though, in spite of low bars he appears to be doing a quite capable job without being either the second coming of Christ or the harbinger of death.

Smee_Again

hotmail.com wrote: »

Bizarre intervention from Biden on the murder trial of the police man.

He could have waited til the verdict was in to make remarks on the subject.

In Ireland, this would collapse a court case.

Jury is sequestered so they won’t hear his comments but yeah, he should have waited until a verdict was announced.

And I take issue with the phrase the right verdict.

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

Bizarre intervention from Biden on the murder trial of the police man.

He could have waited til the verdict was in to make remarks on the subject.

In Ireland, this would collapse a court case.

The jury is sequestered. He waited until they were sequestered on purpose. There is no possibility of altering the court case.

hotmail.com

Smee_Again wrote: »

Jury is sequestered so they won’t hear his comments but yeah, he should have waited until a verdict was announced.

And I take issue with the phrase the right verdict.

Take the point about them being sequestered but surely he is adding unnecessary fuel to the fire here.

There is already a tense situation in that state and he was best to allow the courts to do their job.

Mind boggling.

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

Take the point about them being sequestered but surely he is adding unnecessary fuel to the fire here.

There is already a tense situation in that state and he was best to allow the courts to do their job.

Mind boggling.

Old enough to remember Obama being vilified for not “adding fuel to the fire,” as you put it, commenting on cases and litigation, instead allowing courts and prosecutors to do their job with regard to killings of cops.

Damned if you say something damned if you don’t.

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

Old enough to remember Obama being vilified for not “adding fuel to the fire,” as you put it, commenting on cases and litigation, instead allowing courts and prosecutors to do their job with regard to killings of cops.

Damned if you say something damned if you don’t.

I'm not sure which situation you are referring to but Obama was correct not to comment on pending court cases, as is the norm in pretty much every other Western country.

Biden sees it differently. Bizarre.

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm not sure which situation you are referring to but Obama was correct not to comment on pending court cases, as is the norm in pretty much every other Western country.

Biden sees it differently. Bizarre.

Well, you couldn’t convince a Republican of that at the time. They flat out demanded Obama address the nation about it and make the entire nation aware of the crimes, potentially limiting the pool of jurors https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/obama-under-fire-from-police-for-silence-on-officer-deaths

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

Well, you couldn’t convince a Republican of that at the time. They flat out demanded Obama address the nation about it and make the entire nation aware of the crimes, potentially limiting the pool of jurors https://wjla.com/news/nation-world/obama-under-fire-from-police-for-silence-on-officer-deaths

Right. That's bad.

Now back to Biden.

everlast75

hotmail.com wrote: »

Right. That's bad.

Now back to Biden.

Did you ever comment on Trump dangling pardons etc?

No?

Anyway, Psaki was asked about it and she said she wouldn't comment on it. She was right.

As for Biden, the Trial is over and the jury are sequestered presumably?

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

Right. That's bad.

Now back to Biden.

Well Biden shared empathy with the family and the nation (Obama did the same in the link above in those cases, to the families), he’s in as good a position to lead with a statement after the verdict should a not guilty come down and violent animus metastasize. Fact is a large set of politically active Americans are glued to the case so it makes sense for them to connect with all of them in a way that hasn’t impacted the jury or the deliberation and gets out ahead of a verdict in so much that you are actually heard and considered at this time. The spin machine will spin that how it wants but no incitement to violence and no attack on due process. As the Trump administration master-classed, “Mr Biden was opining in his personal capacity, etc etc”

mcmoustache

hotmail.com wrote: »

Bizarre intervention from Biden on the murder trial of the police man.

He could have waited til the verdict was in to make remarks on the subject.

In Ireland, this would collapse a court case.

I agree. He should have said nothing until the verdict was in.

EDIT: Even if the jury is sequestered, he should still have said nothing till it's over.

hotmail.com

everlast75 wrote: »

Did you ever comment on Trump dangling pardons etc?

No?

Anyway, Psaki was asked about it and she said she wouldn't comment on it. She was right.

As for Biden, the Trial is over and the jury are sequestered presumably?

It's really an insufferable thread whenever you write up something you get a question back about Trump.

Do you realise how silly it looks now at this stage?

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

Well Biden shared empathy with the family and the nation (Obama did the same in the link above in those cases, to the families), he’s in as good a position to lead with a statement after the verdict should a not guilty come down and violent animus metastasize. Fact is a large set of politically active Americans are glued to the case so it makes sense for them to connect with all of them in a way that hasn’t impacted the jury or the deliberation and gets out ahead of a verdict in so much that you are actually heard and considered at this time. The spin machine will spin that how it wants but no incitement to violence and no attack on due process. As the Trump administration master-classed, “Mr Biden was opining in his personal capacity, etc etc”

No one is disputing whether he has empathy or not.

The point is that he commented publicly on an ongoing trial, something that is unheard of in Europe.

I don't know to what extent the sequestration is policed as I would imagine they can contact family members.

Either way, his comments are either naive at best, or populist at worst.

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

No one is disputing whether he has empathy or not.

The point is that he commented publicly on an ongoing trial, something that is unheard of in Europe.

I don't know to what extent the sequestration is policed as I would imagine they can contact family members.

Either way, his comments are either naive at best, or populist at the worst.

Your imagination is incorrect. There is no harm to due process here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_sequestration

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

Your imagination is incorrect. There is no harm to due process here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jury_sequestration

Looks like Biden can do no wrong for some people.

Obviously American culture just different from Europe.

Overheal

hotmail.com wrote: »

Looks like Biden can do no wrong for some people.

Obviously American culture just different from Europe.

“Biden did no harm here”

“Ugh! He just can’t do anything wrong can he”

Calm down there lad.

hotmail.com

Overheal wrote: »

“Biden did no harm here”

“Ugh! He just can’t do anything wrong can he”

Calm down there lad.

There was a time when people criticised and hated all politicians.

But when it comes to America, people seem to be so one sided, it just looks irrational.