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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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    #5822
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    walshb wrote: »
    Fine.

    Answer is no...

    More confirmation bias. I have not answered your question and you have assumed the answer is the one you want to hear.


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    #5823
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Deleted User wrote: »
    More confirmation bias. I have not answered your question and you have assumed the answer is the one you want to hear.

    Silly games really.

    Why you won’t answer one single query from me is odd..

    I won’t discount the articles based off a yes/no to the question..

    It comes across to me that a no answer somehow has you feeling on the defensive...and that is not my intention ..

    Chat later..


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    #5824
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    Stopping black people in the course of doing your job is racism?

    And just because black people are stopped more as a percentage comparison...

    Does black cops stopping black people get factored in with all these systemic stats and figures..?

    If black people are more likely to die from homicide, be in jail and be "stopped more as a percentage comparison", who or what is responsible for this?


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    #5825
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    walshb wrote: »
    Oh, I see. And you have all this data and proof that the ONLY reason for a lot of these stops was the cops saying “black person, must stop/challenge.”

    No chance that the cops had any other reason other than color?

    So, how is all this clear racism being allowed?

    Are the cops breaking the law every time they stop a black persons only because he/she is black? You seem to know this is happening.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OmKetp_F9s&ab_channel=CBCNews%3ATheNational

    I suggest you educate yourself a bit more on the subject of systemic racism and racial profiling.


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    #5826
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    walshb wrote: »
    Silly games really.

    Why you won’t answer one single query from me is odd..

    I won’t discount the articles based off a yes/no to the question..

    It comes across to me that a no answer somehow has you feeling on the defensive...and that is not my intention ..

    Because you're not going to read the paper regardless of the answer.

    And, more importantly, the point you think you are making is not a point at all.


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    #5827
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    walshb wrote: »
    Oh, I see. And you have all this data and proof that the ONLY reason for a lot of these stops was the cops saying “black person, must stop/challenge.”

    No chance that the cops had any other reason other than color?

    So, how is all this clear racism being allowed?

    Are the cops breaking the law every time they stop a black persons only because he/she is black? You seem to know this is happening.

    A lot of strawmen there so I’m not going to reply to to questions on things I never claimed.


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    #5828
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    If black people are more likely to die from homicide, be in jail and be "stopped more as a percentage comparison", who or what is responsible for this?

    I’d say there are several factors to bring about what you describe here..


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    #5829
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    A lot of strawmen there so I’m not going to reply to to questions on things I never claimed.

    You said stopping people for nothing but their skin color is racism..

    I wondered how you knew that this was happening/verified: how you knew that these stops were only performed because of the skin color..

    You haven’t shown me why..

    Nothing at all to do with strawman..


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    #5830
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    I’d say there are several factors to bring about what you describe here..

    Sure. Care to suggest a few?


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    #5831
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Sure. Care to suggest a few?

    No.

    No idea why you are asking me this..

    You name a few..

    Am I right that you want to paint a narrative that it’s down to racist cops, systemic police racism?


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    #5832
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    walshb wrote: »
    You said stopping people for nothing but their skin color is racism..

    I wondered how you knew that this was happening/verified: how you knew that these stops were only performed because of the skin color..

    You haven’t shown me why..

    Nothing at all to do with strawman..

    Ah, OK fair enough I did.

    Then the answer to that question is yes. That is included in the study and people are stopped based on the colour of their skin.


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    #5833
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Ah, OK fair enough I did.

    Then the answer to that question is yes. That is included in the study and people are stopped based on the colour of their skin.

    Can you share this study, please?


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    #5834
    Smee_Again
    Registered Users Posts: 2,033 ✭✭✭Smee_Again


    walshb wrote: »
    Can you share this study, please?

    Already have.


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    #5835
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Smee_Again wrote: »
    Already have.

    To me?

    What post number is it?

    Ok, post 5813....


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    #5836
    weisses
    Registered Users Posts: 9,453 ✭✭✭weisses


    walshb wrote: »
    Am I right that you want to paint a narrative that it’s down to racist cops, systemic police racism?

    https://abc7news.com/oakland-police-opd-racial-profiling-traffic-stops/6414305/

    I can do this all day
    Black men were eight times more likely to be stopped by police than White men and three times more likely to be stopped than Hispanic men


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    #5837
    Cody montana
    Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    biko wrote: »
    Has Kamala the border czar even visited the border yet?

    The answer is of course no.

    Don’t know, think the border with Canada is closed?
    Maybe she doesn’t have time for a photo opportunity.


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    #5838
    BanditLuke
    Registered Users Posts: 2,600 ✭✭✭BanditLuke


    weisses wrote: »
    https://abc7news.com/oakland-police-opd-racial-profiling-traffic-stops/6414305/

    I can do this all day

    Black lives only seem to matter when it's white people killing blacks. Black on black crime which a massive problem in America is largely ignored.

    Black people need to have an honest conversation with themselves about the ridiculous amount of homicides within their own communities and stop acting like the world owes them a favour.

    If black lives matter they have to matter ALL the time.


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    #5839
    everlast75
    Registered Users Posts: 19,422 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Black lives only seem to matter when it's white people killing blacks. Black on black crime which a massive problem in America is largely ignored.

    Black people need to have an honest conversation with themselves about the ridiculous amount of homicides within their own communities and stop acting like the world owes them a favour.

    If black lives matter they have to matter ALL the time.

    So, why are you piping in, as a white man, if that's a conversation they need to have amongst themselves?

    Oh... that's right. It's because you feel uncomfortable when white people being racist are called out on it.

    Now, why on earth would *you* feel uncomfortable about that?


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    #5840
    WrenBoy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭WrenBoy


    everlast75 wrote: »
    So, why are you piping in, as a white man, if that's a conversation they need to have amongst themselves?

    Oh... that's right. It's because you feel uncomfortable when white people being racist are called out on it.

    Now, why on earth would *you* feel uncomfortable about that?

    All yts are racist everlast, All of them.


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    #5841
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    No.

    No idea why you are asking me this..

    You name a few..

    Am I right that you want to paint a narrative that it’s down to racist cops, systemic police racism?

    So you talk about racism but have no opinion as to why it exists. Okie dokie.


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    #5842
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    So you talk about racism but have no opinion as to why it exists. Okie dokie.

    I have no idea what you’re talking about..

    Your last few posts..


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    #5843
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    I have no idea what you’re talking about..

    Your last few posts..

    You don't understand? No problem.


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    #5844
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Black lives only seem to matter when it's white people killing blacks. Black on black crime which a massive problem in America is largely ignored.

    Black people need to have an honest conversation with themselves about the ridiculous amount of homicides within their own communities and stop acting like the world owes them a favour.

    If black lives matter they have to matter ALL the time.

    Why does this happen in your opinion?


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    #5845
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    BanditLuke wrote: »
    Black lives only seem to matter when it's white people killing blacks. Black on black crime which a massive problem in America is largely ignored.

    Black people need to have an honest conversation with themselves about the ridiculous amount of homicides within their own communities and stop acting like the world owes them a favour.

    If black lives matter they have to matter ALL the time.

    You are right. There is a massive problem of black on black violent crime. It needs to be looked at and fixed. And a lot of that has to come from within the black community.

    That does not mean that there is no issue with systemic racism and racial inequality. The fact that black people are over represented in numerous negative statistics around crime, health, education, wealth etc are all contributing factors to the rate at which black men are killing each other.


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    #5846
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    You don't understand? No problem.

    I understand this thread and its discussion:

    just not your out of the blue vague question..

    Anyway, we’ll move on..


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    #5847
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    I understand this thread and its discussion:

    just not your out of the blue vague question..

    Anyway, we’ll move on..

    Allow me to define. Thinking about the fact that more black people are jailed and murdered in the US than white people, is it because that's what black people do?


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    #5848
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Allow me to define. Thinking about the fact that more black people are jailed and murdered in the US than white people, is it because that's what black people do?

    Black people commit crime.
    White people commit crime
    All colors of people commit crime.

    People commit crime. Such is life.

    All people are jailed/dealt with if that is the judiciary’s position..


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    #5849
    Professor Moriarty
    Registered Users Posts: 14,371 ✭✭✭✭Professor Moriarty


    walshb wrote: »
    Black people commit crime.
    While people commit crime
    All colors of people commit crime.

    People commit crime. Such is life.

    All people are jailed/dealt with if that is the judiciary’s position..

    Oh right. I'd hate to disturb such an eloquently simple understanding of American society, so I'll leave it with you.


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    #5850
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Oh right. I'd hate to disturb such an eloquently simple understanding of American society, so I'll leave it with you.

    Hahaha..


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    #5851
    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,513 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Professor Moriarty wrote: »
    Oh right. I'd hate to disturb such an eloquently simple understanding of American society, so I'll leave it with you.

    Yes. It really is that simple..

    You are simply digging too deep. With no need to.


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