Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Water John

The GOP seem to be already regressing, getting worried about deficits. They are also developing amnesia as to what happened just two weeks ago and seems now very little chance of Trump being convicted, no matter what the evidence.
Correctly, a full inquiry needs to be conducted by a Congress committee as to how the whole mess on the 6th unfolded.

dark crystal

landofthetree wrote: »

Every democratic president has been a disaster post WW2. All war criminals for starters.

Biden will be up with the worst of them.

What war did Jimmy Carter engage in?

Trump has been responsible for more American deaths in 11 months than during the entirety of WWII.

Airstrikes in Afghanistan increased civillian deaths by 330% since 2016.

Oh and here's another fun fact! Of the 4 presidential impeachments in US history, Republicans are responsible for 3/4 of them.

What a legacy!

Water John

And they couldn't find any dirt on Bill Clinton so just went after a stain instead.

mcmoustache

Pa ElGrande wrote: »

President Biden now has the opportunity to stop it. The Democrats have control of the house and a narrow margin in the Senate. They can do it.

And they plan to so I'm not sure what you're getting at. You's complaining that they have no plans to do something that they plan to do. This is like a toddler crying when they see another kid with an ice cream and forget the ice cream in their hand.



https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/biden-stop-support-saudi-war-crimes-yemen.html

During his Senate confirmation hearing on Tuesday, Secretary of State-designate Anthony Blinken said President Joe Biden’s administration would end U.S. support for Saudi Arabia’s military intervention in Yemen, which in Blinken’s words had “contributed to … the worst humanitarian situation anywhere in the world.”

Melanchthon

https://reason.com/2021/01/22/the-washington-post-memory-holed-kamala-harris-bad-joke-about-inmates-begging-for-food-and-water/

It's funny, when the subject of rising distrust in the media is brought up nobody ever seems to highlight there might be a legitimate reason for that rise in distrust

Overheal

Bernie Sanders got in on a grift :mad:

https://twitter.com/biggado_/status/1352699582929580032?s=21

Das Reich

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

You live in an insane online world of fringe conspiracy theorists. Almost every single claim you've made in that post is verifiably false. But there's no point trying to convince you of anything, of course.


As the saying goes; you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into to begin with.

You are back on the thread? You disappeared few days ago.

dwayneshintzy

Das Reich wrote: »

You are back on the thread? You disappeared few days ago.

Eh, disappeared?

Necro

Mod:

CheerfulSpring2 - stop dragging conspiracy theory nonsense into this thread or your access to post will be removed

Everyone else please get back on topic. If it's a slow news day there's still no need to feed the rubbish being posted in the last page or so.

landofthetree

Big pharma is smiling big right now. The big three insulin producers are Eli Lilly and Company, Novo Nordisk A/S, and Sanofi S.A., in which they dominate more than 90% of the world insulin market by value. After swearing-in, U.S. President Joe Biden’s HHS froze the Trump administration’s December 2020 drug policy that mandates community health centers to pass on all their insulin and epinephrine discount savings to patients.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.swfinstitute.org/news/83900/pharma-biden-freezes-trumps-lower-cost-insulin-and-epinephrine-rule/amp

Biden doesnt care about people with long term illness.

Overheal

landofthetree wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.swfinstitute.org/news/83900/pharma-biden-freezes-trumps-lower-cost-insulin-and-epinephrine-rule/amp

Biden doesnt care about people with long term illness.

His EO suspended all recent rule changes not just this. Bad faith posting to imply he specifically targeted insulin discounts as something to take away from people.

dwayneshintzy

landofthetree wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.swfinstitute.org/news/83900/pharma-biden-freezes-trumps-lower-cost-insulin-and-epinephrine-rule/amp

Biden doesnt care about people with long term illness.

Biden has frozen all Trump executive orders. It's dishonest to claim that he's singled this order out in this way, or that he won't have action on it himself.

Regulatory Freeze Pending Review

Das Reich

rossie1977 wrote: »

Yes every Democratic president....

Truman, JFK, Clinton and Obama all rank high by historian scholars. Nixon, Bush Jr and Trump among lowest ranked of all time presidents. Reagan was smooth talker but make no mistake his 8 years greatly hurt America and led all the wealth moving to top.

Lets pick up JFK, he was not in power when US supported an invasion in Cuba? Then USA almost started a nuclear war during the crisis of the missiles. Far as now he also increased tension with Vietnam, who kicked the yankees from their country. And after the war we were forced to see hundreds of movies (made in USA) about the war that they lost. So ridiculous those people.

flatface

landofthetree wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.swfinstitute.org/news/83900/pharma-biden-freezes-trumps-lower-cost-insulin-and-epinephrine-rule/amp

Biden doesnt care about people with long term illness.

Or he is suspicious of any of Trump’s executive orders and how well thought out they are beyond the headline. Let’s see if it is indeed reviewed and there is any action.

[url] https://www.modernhealthcare.com/community-health-centers/hhs-freezes-rule-targeting-community-health-centers-drug-discounts[/url]

Das Reich

Tell me how wrote: »

How was Clinton a war criminal? He intervened in the former Yugoslavia where genocide was being carried out.
How was Obama a war criminal? He intervened in Libya where Gaddafi was bombing his own people.

Bear in mind Bush Snr launched the 1st Gulf war, Bush Jnr the 2nd (and afghanistan). Trump tried, but thankfully failed to start a war in the US. He also carried on in the same way Obama had done but stopped reporting these activities.

Looking forward to seeing your answer.

Very simple to answer this... By bombing civilian trains and buses full of ordinary people. About the so called genocide, very strange that all the countries they bomb there is an alleged genocide. Very strange they would save some people and leave other countries, lets say China, do thw genocides they want.

eagle eye

Overheal wrote:

His EO suspended all recent rule changes not just this. Bad faith posting to imply he specifically targeted insulin discounts as something to take away from people.

dwayneshintzy wrote:

Biden has frozen all Trump executive orders. It's dishonest to claim that he's singled this order out in this way, or that he won't have action on it himself.

I'm a Biden fan but this sort of reporting was done all the time with Trump.
You just got to accept it's going to happen.
And to be fair, imo these things should have been looked at and the good parts, if there were any, left in place. Freezing all orders without looking at them is going too far I think.

dwayneshintzy

eagle eye wrote: »

I'm a Biden fan but this sort of reporting was done all the time with Trump.
You just got to accept it's going to happen.
And to be fair, imo these things should have been looked at and the good parts, if there were any, left in place. Freezing all orders without looking at them is going too far I think.

Genuine question.......are you taking the piss?


They've frozen all orders to do precisely that; have a look at them. It's literally described in the link I provided in my post.

dwayneshintzy

Das Reich wrote: »

Now the question of the day for Dwayne and his friends Overhaul and Tell Me now. Who was the president of USA during the Islamic Revolution in Iran? Who took Saddam Hussein in Cairo and sent him to Iraq, and then filled him with guns and pushed him to invade Kuzesthan?

Why is that the question of the day you have, in a thread about Joe Biden's Presidency?

mcmoustache

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Why is that the question of the day you have, in a thread about Joe Biden's Presidency?

Look, he's trying his best and there isn't really a lot to work with. You have to admire that.

Das Reich

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Why is that the question of the day you have, in a thread about Joe Biden's Presidency?

Always running. The topic people are talking here are wars, can't you see it?

dwayneshintzy

Das Reich wrote: »

Always running. The topic people are talking here are wars, can't you see it?

Actually, my last post was in relation to Biden's freeze on Trump's executive orders.

You've said I "disappeared" and now that I'm "always running"......what are you getting at here? I don't live on boards.ie, Das Reich. I've got barely over 1,000 posts in 7 years.

Das Reich

dwayneshintzy wrote: »

Actually, my last post was in relation to Biden's freeze on Trump's executive orders.

You've said I "disappeared" and now that I'm "always running"......what are you getting at here? I don't like in boards.ie, Das Reich. I've got barely over 1,000 posts in 7 years.

Can you stay at the topic please (wars). Why after pointing out the wars Obama and other "democrats" (pro wars) started around the globe, always get a deflection or loads of links that you don't even click or read them.

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

Timberrrrrrrr

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

Yeah, imagine telling people the truth!

he should just call it a hoax, claim it will be gone soon, just like a miracle it will just go away :rolleyes:

dwayneshintzy

Das Reich wrote: »

Can you stay at the topic please (wars). Why after pointing out the wars Obama and other "democrats" (pro wars) started around the globe, always get a deflection, loads of link that you dom't even click or read them.

I did read the links I posted to you before. Why are you saying I haven't? They were to show that Trump was not an "anti-war" President. That was also in a thread about Donald Trump, by the way (Link).


This is a thread about Joe Biden, and I'm trying to stay on topic here. Not sure what it is you're doing, though.

Professor Moriarty

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

Yes. There's a big switch in the White House.
Pandemic: On.
Pandemic Off.

Why Oh Why won't Biden switch it to off?

ohnonotgmail

Das Reich wrote: »

Can you stay at the topic please (wars). Why after pointing out the wars Obama and other "democrats" (pro wars) started around the globe, always get a deflection or loads of links that you don't even click or read them.

I thought the topic was the presidency of Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump and received more votes than any other previous president.

Cody montana

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

No lying, blaming, deflecting or petty insults.
What a change.

Already outperforming the last guy.

Das Reich

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

I thought the topic was the presidency of Joe Biden, the man who beat Donald Trump and received more votes than any other previous president.

Read the last pages then if you want to join the discussion. You can take the chair of Dwayne as I think he not want to discuss when I am here.

ohnonotgmail

Das Reich wrote: »

Read the last pages then if you want to join the discussion. You can take the chair of Dwayne as I think he not want to discuss when I am here.

what is the relevancy of the actions of previous administrations to this one?

alchemist33

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

When did he say he was going to stop Covid?

Faugheen

Das Reich wrote: »

Read the last pages then if you want to join the discussion. You can take the chair of Dwayne as I think he not want to discuss when I am here.

Thread tite: Joe Biden Presidency Thread

Start a new one about Democrat vs Republic pro-war or anti-war Presidents if you want to discuss it.

mcmoustache

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

???


What exactly were you expecting? That he would say something and that it would just go away?


I understand that you feel compelled to repost the shíte you found on Stupid Twitter into this thread but you should give it some thought first.

Das Reich

Faugheen wrote: »

Thread tite: Joe Biden Presidency Thread

Start a new one about Democrat vs Republic pro-war or anti-war Presidents if you want to discuss it.

Page 70. The discussion had moved a bit, if you guys want to go back to the original point is fine.

dwayneshintzy

Das Reich wrote: »

Read the last pages then if you want to join the discussion. You can take the chair of Dwayne as I think he not want to discuss when I am here.

I've responded to you directly, if you'd like to have a read of that post.

On a Biden note that you may be interested in, however; the Biden administration is looking to end involvement in the Saudis war in Yemen (something which Trump refused to do). Link

alchemist33

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

My earlier post on this wasn't clear enough. Here's Biden in December saying things would get worse before they got better... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/dec/22/darkest-days-ahead-joe-biden-gives-sobering-message-on-covid-video

He didn't "promise to stop Covid." The author of that tweet lied.

mcmoustache

alchemist33 wrote: »

My earlier post on this wasn't clear enough. Here's Biden in December saying things would get worse before they got better... https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2020/dec/22/darkest-days-ahead-joe-biden-gives-sobering-message-on-covid-video

He didn't "promise to stop Covid." The author of that tweet lied.

Iain Miles Cheong telling lies?


I'm shocked, I tell you.

Corben Dallas

landofthetree wrote: »

Every democratic president has been a disaster post WW2. All war criminals for starters.

Biden will be up with the worst of them.

So you're a Republican supporter.....got it, but the amount of TOTAL bias in your post is STUNNING..:eek:

Obama and Clinton especially have been stand out good presidents imo. Obama turned around the US after the crash, then handed a growing economy to Trump.

So by your reasoning all Military actions by Democrats = war criminal
Military actions by Republican Presidents = right and necessary actions to defend the US!!!!!!

Please cop on and at least try to be objective.

Plus Biden is not even in the job a week and u think he will " be the worst of them"

Your prejudice is shocking.

Billy Mays

In what way is Jimmy Carter a war criminal?

landofthetree

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1352858876450844672

The poorest kids will suffer the most under Biden. Their parents will lose their jobs and their education will suffer badly with these cuts.

If they are going to stop the oil industry they need replacement jobs and upskilling.

Faugheen

Das Reich wrote: »

Page 70. The discussion had moved a bit, if you guys want to go back to the original point is fine.

Well the topic of which presidents were war criminals and which weren’t isnt related to the topic of Joe Biden’s presidency.

You’re the one telling people to get back on topic while at the same time pretending to be a big man calling people out on off-topic discussions.

Your issue is off-topic. Simple as.

landofthetree

Billy Mays wrote: »

In what way is Jimmy Carter a war criminal?

If the Nuremberg laws were applied.....

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Water John

You quoting Chomsky to make your case, is funny.

Igotadose

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/AP/status/1352858876450844672

The poorest kids will suffer the most under Biden. Their parents will lose their jobs and their education will suffer badly with these cuts.

If they are going to stop the oil industry they need replacement jobs and upskilling.

wait.... replacement jobs and upskilling...isn't that... the big bad scary "s" thing if the government provides them?

And a 60 day moratorium on *new* leases isn't that scary, if you read the AP article the concern is that oil leases on Federal lands, predominate in NM but is something that's been a political football since forever.

So, if I get you right, you're advocating for more government handouts to the poor?

Seems we have another member of the RIGOLO school of "economics."

Cody montana

landofthetree wrote: »

If the Nuremberg laws were applied.....

https://chomsky.info/1990____-2/

Including the last fellow?

mcmoustache

Igotadose wrote: »

Seems we have another member of the RIGOLO school of "economics."

That was less of a school and more of a MAGA Madrasa.

namloc1980

landofthetree wrote: »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1353056302272966656

Leadership.

And this is a prime example of why Donald Trump is popular and won in 2016. He offers seemingly easy solutions to complex problems. Like his "one day the virus will just disappear" or "build the wall" to solve all the immigration woes. A lot of people are attracted to that populism. It's easy to digest and solutions to complex problems appear easily found. You see it here with SF.

Unfortunately governing and solving complex issues is much more difficult. It takes time and often the decisions needed to solve those issues can appear unpopular i.e. Keystone XL pipeline. A lot of people prefer the easy solutions to reality.

Sweetemotion

Keystone oil is going to go somewhere, with a 10% vat for the big guy.

landofthetree

Biden the fraud. Found out straight away.

landofthetree

namloc1980 wrote: »

And this is a prime example of why Donald Trump is popular and won in 2016. He offers seemingly easy solutions to complex problems. Like his "one day the virus will just disappear" or "build the wall" to solve all the immigration woes. A lot of people are attracted to that populism. It's easy to digest and solutions to complex problems appear easily found. You see it here with SF.

Unfortunately governing and solving complex issues is much more difficult. It takes time and often the decisions needed to solve those issues can appear unpopular i.e. Keystone XL pipeline. A lot of people prefer the easy solutions to reality.

All Biden has ensured is the US will buy oil from elsewhere and not Canada.

The Keystone pipeline passed all the necessary environmental Environmental standards. The oil they get from elsewhere will come from projects with very little.