Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Quin_Dub

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's just you being selective and picking that day. If you pick any other day, you'll see that it's dominated by the librul mainstream media. See today for example, a completely different story.


https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1390303129543921671

Do only political hacks use Facebook in the US?

Where are the Popstars and Memes and other guff??

US Newsfeeds on Facebook must be awful poison..

Overheal

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's just you being selective and picking that day. If you pick any other day, you'll see that it's dominated by the librul mainstream media. See today for example, a completely different story.


https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1390303129543921671

This doesn't surprise me, but only because today for some reason I have been inundated with at least a handful of Sponsored posts from Ben Shapiro. The lad is burning a hole in his wallet. eg. https://fb.watch/5kf0y7ezi2/

Smee_Again

Overheal wrote: »

This doesn't surprise me, but only because today for some reason I have been inundated with at least a handful of Sponsored posts from Ben Shapiro. The lad is burning a hole in his wallet. eg. https://fb.watch/5kf0y7ezi2/

I doubt it’s his wallet.

biko

Brian? wrote: »

"Political voices" seems like a very broad term. Are you ok with Facebook censoring ISIS videos?

Videos depicting murder yes, but non violent videos should be allowed.
We'll just have to trust people are intelligent enough to make the right decision.

Censoring means that I have a "I know better than you" attitude, but also even worse - that I want to keep you from watching something that will change your mind.
Like someone said; “Socialists don’t like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.”

biko

biko wrote: »

Videos depicting murder yes, but non violent videos should be allowed.

Non-violent videos of any kind should be allowed on what? Facebook? So you don't think Facebook should be allowed to set their own rules as to what is allowed to be posted on their site?

You seem to flip flop as to what you think quite often.

salmocab

biko wrote: »

Like someone said; “Socialists don’t like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.”

You must be very worried about the voting laws passed in Florida.
Whilst your quote is a nice quip the reality is in America it’s the conservatives who are worried about voters not choosing conservatism.

Smee_Again

biko wrote: »

Videos depicting murder yes, but non violent videos should be allowed.
We'll just have to trust people are intelligent enough to make the right decision.

Censoring means that I have a "I know better than you" attitude, but also even worse - that I want to keep you from watching something that will change your mind.
Like someone said; “Socialists don’t like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.”

It’s not censoring when it contravenes the terms of service/use. It’s moderating.

You know this, we went through it with you yesterday.

pjohnson

salmocab wrote: »

You must be very worried about the voting laws passed in Florida.
Whilst your quote is a nice quip the reality is in America it’s the conservatives who are worried about voters not choosing conservatism.

America doesnt like democracy.

Thats why theres such a wonky system used in the first place.

eagle eye

Smee_Again wrote:

It’s not censoring when it contravenes the terms of service/use. It’s moderating.

Seriously like, we are supposed to be talking about Joe Biden and here you are with a pedantic take on the English language as regards what social media does.

salmocab

pjohnson wrote: »

America doesnt like democracy.

Thats why theres such a wonky system used in the first place.

I said during the last election if you were setting up a new democracy and were deciding on the system to use and you suggested the American model you’d be asked to leave the meeting.

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

Seriously like, we are supposed to be talking about Joe Biden and here you are with a pedantic take on the English language as regards what social media does.

I think we can add pedantic to the list of words and phrases that you don't understand.

Besides, take it up with biko. He's the one who keeps bumping the thread and steering it back to social media.

Each time he does I'll call out his hypocrisy and ridiculousness while correcting the factual errors he makes.

landofthetree

The idea that the USA is some sort of right wing pro business country is way off.

Its spends more per capita on welfare than the EU.

It doesn't steal from the poor to pay for the middle classes to go to third level like Germany. The poor homeless person in Germany has to pay VAT on his shoes so middle class kids can go to third level.

VAT keeps the poor down in Europe.

ohnonotgmail

mcmoustache wrote: »

That's just you being selective and picking that day. If you pick any other day, you'll see that it's dominated by the librul mainstream media. See today for example, a completely different story.


https://twitter.com/FacebooksTop10/status/1390303129543921671

I had no idea who Dan Bongino is. I wish I still didn't.

ohnonotgmail

biko wrote: »

Videos depicting murder yes, but non violent videos should be allowed.
We'll just have to trust people are intelligent enough to make the right decision.

Censoring means that I have a "I know better than you" attitude, but also even worse - that I want to keep you from watching something that will change your mind.
Like someone said; “Socialists don’t like ordinary people choosing, for they might not choose socialism.”

how about ISIS videos praising violence committed by others?

Smee_Again

landofthetree wrote: »

The idea that the USA is some sort of right wing pro business country is way off.

Its spends more per capita on welfare than the EU.

It doesn't steal from the poor to pay for the middle classes to go to third level like Germany. The poor homeless person in Germany has to pay VAT on his shoes so middle class kids can go to third level.

VAT keeps the poor down in Europe.

But less than Luxembourg, Norway (not in EU), Denmark, Austria, Belgium, France, Sweden, Finland, Germany, Switzerland (not in EU) and Ireland.

Source

eagle eye

Smee_Again wrote:

I think we can add pedantic to the list of words and phrases that you don't understand.

More pedantry. You haven't a clue about the English language but if you want to discuss it further bring it to pm or start another thread
And just so you know pedantry is being picky about minor details.
It was easy to understand what he meant by censorship, strong moderation of a website is similar to censorship.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

More pedantry. You haven't a clue about the English language but if you want to discuss it further bring it to pm or start another thread
And just so you know pedantry is being picky about minor details.
It was easy to understand what he meant by censorship, strong moderation of a website is similar to censorship.

no, no it isn't.

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

no, no it isn't.

It is, it's being very picky about unimportant minor details of a post.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

It is, it's being very picky about unimportant minor details of a post.

what constitutes censorship is not a minor detail. It is a lazy term that is thrown around far too often by those who don't understand what it means.

salmocab

eagle eye wrote: »

It is, it's being very picky about unimportant minor details of a post.

Did you not have whinge about not talking about Biden earlier and now your involved in this?

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

More pedantry. You haven't a clue about the English language but if you want to discuss it further bring it to pm or start another thread
And just so you know pedantry is being picky about minor details.
It was easy to understand what he meant by censorship, strong moderation of a website is similar to censorship.

There's no need to take it PM, it's not pedantry or pedantic to point out the difference between censorship and moderation.

I could explain it to you if you like, but it may come across as condescending so I'll wait for you to ask first.

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

what constitutes censorship is not a minor detail. It is a lazy term that is thrown around far too often by those who don't understand what it means.

Yeah but we are not in English school. We are on an internet forum discussing issues and they are being dragged way off topic by people deciding to give English lessons instead of understanding what a person actually is intending to say and discussing the issue at hand.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

Yeah but we are not in English school. We are on an internet forum discussing issues and they are being dragged way off topic by people deciding to give English lessons instead of understanding what a person actually is intending to say and discussing the issue at hand.

words have meanings. meanings are important. disregarding the real meanings of words has partially lead the world to the state it is in today. And with that I'm done with you. It isn't worth the effort.

eagle eye

Smee_Again wrote:

There's no need to take it PM, it's not pedantry or pedantic to point out the difference between censorship and moderation.

It's picky and unimportant in the context of this thread ergo pedantic.

Smee_Again wrote:

I could explain it to you if you like, but it may come across as condescending so I'll wait for you to ask first.

I'll challenge you to a meeting in person with a sheet of paper each, when things get back to normal, and we have to explain words given to us by an independent third party. I'm willing to wager up to 1000 euro with you on who gets the most correct.

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

words have meanings. meanings are important. disregarding the real meanings of words has partially lead the world to the state it is in today. And with that I'm done with you. It isn't worth the effort.

I'm sure there's an English forum on here somewhere if you wish to have those discussions. I meet people every day who don't speak proper English but I never pull them up on it. Reason being they wouldn't like it and it's not important enough.

landofthetree

landofthetree wrote: »

The idea that the USA is some sort of right wing pro business country is way off.

c.$50 trillion has moved from the working and middles classes to the top 1% since the 1970s in America.

50,000 people die every year because they cannot access healthcare. Pharmaceutical companies can charge whatever price they wish so even those that can access medicine pay exorbitant prices. The tax-payer helps fund these companies and get **** all protections in return.

Over 60% of declared bankruptcies are due to medical bills.

Money is free speech in America and big business takes advantage of it. America is utopia for big business.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

It's picky and unimportant in the context of this thread ergo pedantic.


I'll challenge you to a meeting in person with a sheet of paper each, when things get back to normal, and we have to explain words given to us by an independent third party. I'm willing to wager up to 1000 euro with you on who gets the most correct.

make sure they don't include the words censorship or moderation.

eagle eye

ohnonotgmail wrote:

make sure they don't include the words censorship or moderation.

Why? I understand the difference between them. I'm not the one that was being picked at about those words.

ohnonotgmail

eagle eye wrote: »

Why? I understand the difference between them. I'm not the one that was being picked at about those words.

you really don't

It was easy to understand what he meant by censorship, strong moderation of a website is similar to censorship.

Smee_Again

eagle eye wrote: »

It's picky and unimportant in the context of this thread ergo pedantic.


I'll challenge you to a meeting in person with a sheet of paper each, when things get back to normal, and we have to explain words given to us by an independent third party. I'm willing to wager up to 1000 euro with you on who gets the most correct.

This is bizarre, you've picked a strange hill to die on here.

As ohno said words have meanings, particularly on online platforms where its harder to convey tone etc.

Anyway, this is way OT so I'll leave it there.