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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,991 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Is it the fact they are retired Generals or the number being 120 that you opt to give this credibility?

    Have you checked up on who these 120 actually are? What their history is and what their qualifications are to give them any ability to deem an election as fraudulent or not? Not sure how being a General qualifies one for making a judgment on election security.

    I vaguely remember 200 plus retired generals and admirals endorsing Biden before the election. Some had served under Trump. I wonder, do they have more or less credibility than the 120?


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,417 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    A major arterial bridge near Memphis on the Mississippi River has suffered a critical failure. I guess Trump should have made good on that infrastructure bill.

    https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1392915091184627715?s=20

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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    https://twitter.com/Mediaite/status/1392203363379552259

    I don't think any of us truly believe the GOP will split in a meaningful way, but its pure conjecture to hypothesize about the Democrats while all this is going on.

    If what you want is a right leaning centrist party to emerge, then that is more likely to come from a GOP split with the likes of Cheney and Romney being involved than it is to be left over from the socialist wing of the Democratic party falling away. At least that is where all the evidence is at this point.

    Leading left wing members of the Democratic party, Sanders and AOC seem very much to be moving in the direction of trying to work with the more conservative members of their own party to find a way to make progress then they are to split off to the side.

    The Democrats are a right leaning centrist party!

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 21,566 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Brian? wrote: »
    The Democrats are a right leaning centrist party!

    I'm talking about a new edition for the purpose of this discussion.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,197 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I'm talking about a new edition for the purpose of this discussion.

    I know. Why would another party that was ideologically aligned with the Democrats be born from the GOP? The Democrats already fill that space.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Overheal wrote: »
    A major arterial bridge near Memphis on the Mississippi River has suffered a critical failure. I guess Trump should have made good on that infrastructure bill.

    https://twitter.com/jsrailton/status/1392915091184627715?s=20

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    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1SeyMwWEAA4B0g?format=jpg&name=large

    Goddamit.

    And he was two weeks away from fixing it all.


  • Registered Users Posts: 82,417 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    It would be something if it was one or two that were coming out stating the current president is mentally unfit for office but this is 124 high ranking military men.

    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    I don't think it has a finger on the Trump Baby float.


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    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    It would be something if it was one or two that were coming out stating the current president is mentally unfit for office but this is 124 high ranking military men.

    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    The only thing that is making the USA a laughing stock is cry babies who can't accept their dear incompetent, racist leader lost.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,625 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    Nope.

    "Other countries’ opinions of the U.S. have improved by nine points on average since President Joe Biden took office—and in many cases by double digits—a new Morning Consult poll finds, as the Democratic president appears to have noticeably improved the U.S.’s global standing in his first 100 days after it eroded under President Donald Trump."

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/04/27/world-opinion-of-us-shoots-up-after-biden-takes-office-poll-finds/amp

    On the contrary, most intelligent people around the world would laugh at a bunch of conspiracy theorists who refuse to accept reality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,595 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    It would be something if it was one or two that were coming out stating the current president is mentally unfit for office but this is 124 high ranking military men.

    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    Right, so its the fact that it is the number of them.

    Have you checked out how many retired generals there are? What % this covers? What qualifications they have to opine on voting systems?
    "The only positive sign," added Golby, "is that most of the retired officers who signed this letter have been out of the military for almost two decades, and that no recent retirees joined this shameful effort to use their rank and the military's reputation for such a gross and blatant partisan attack."

    Mullen also pointed out that no retired four-stars signed it and only a handful of three-stars. "It's not very senior," he said. "In our world it's not very significant in terms of people."
    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/11/retired-brass-biden-election-487374


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  • Registered Users Posts: 38,240 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    WhomadeGod wrote:
    It would be something if it was one or two that were coming out stating the current president is mentally unfit for office but this is 124 high ranking military men.
    Do you not think he's done a great job so far? I certainly do.
    WhomadeGod wrote:
    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.
    I don't think it matters to people at all. What matters is what's been done and there's a hell if a lot of good being done.


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    WhomadeGod wrote: »

    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    Anyone wanna go find that clip of trump before, was it the U.N., when the other countries literally were laughing at him?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    WhomadeGod wrote: »
    It would be something if it was one or two that were coming out stating the current president is mentally unfit for office but this is 124 high ranking military men.

    Wether you agree with thier views or not it makes the USA a laughing stock on the international level.

    Look, if someone still really believes that the election was stolen and starts off their argument with that despite all the real world evidence, court cases, audits (most conducted by the GOP themselves) all saying that it was one of the safest elections ever, then that person has mental health issues and they are unlikely to hold a rational opinion on a number of subjects.

    This is unfortunate but shows how easily some people can be led by a conman and a grifter. The hope is that the overwhelming evidence will snap them out of it, but instead there seems to be a digging in because they don't want to admit they were wrong, mainly out of embarrassment it seems.

    That is what makes the USA a laughing stock, not a competent president doing their work and getting on with their agenda, if you think that any other country thinks that the USA is more of a laughing stock without trump at the helm then you clearly are not holding a rational viewpoint of the situation.

    The worst thing was how easily manipulated he was, Jong Un had him spinning on his little figure, Putin might as well have dropped the pretence and introduced him as his puppet, cheeky trump. Those countries won't like Biden being in charge, that's a good thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Right, so its the fact that it is the number of them.

    Have you checked out how many retired generals there are? What % this covers? What qualifications they have to opine on voting systems?

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/11/retired-brass-biden-election-487374

    More than 200 generals endorsed Biden, including a number of 4*s and recently retired generals so by my maths that means Biden wins.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/more-200-retired-generals-admirals-endorse-biden-including-some-who-n1240842


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,236 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    More than 200 generals endorsed Biden, including a number of 4*s and recently retired generals so by my maths that means Biden wins.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/more-200-retired-generals-admirals-endorse-biden-including-some-who-n1240842

    Can't argue with that. It's science.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Goddamit.

    And he was two weeks away from fixing it all.
    That crack has been there since Obama ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,343 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    biko wrote: »
    That crack has been there since Obama ;)

    The sad reality is multiple governments local and national from both sides have ignored infrastructure because Americans see taxes as such a bad thing and don’t want to pay for things that they don’t physically own


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,413 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    biko wrote: »
    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.

    it appears you haven't read any of the responses. try again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    salmocab wrote: »
    The sad reality is multiple governments local and national from both sides have ignored infrastructure because Americans see taxes as such a bad thing and don’t want to pay for things that they don’t physically own

    Fixing roads is obviously socialism. Only poor people need to drive to different places. If you're rich enough you just fly everywhere. If you can't afford to that, it's your own fault.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,343 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    biko wrote: »
    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.

    Anyone that thinks the election was stolen is indeed a conspiracy nut.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Hopefully Biden's infrastructure bill will sort some stuff like that crack out.
    It looks good on paper, so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    salmocab wrote: »
    Anyone that thinks the election was stolen is indeed a conspiracy nut.
    Trump won, Hillary lost.
    Get over it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭The Raging Bile Duct


    biko wrote: »
    Trump won, Hillary lost.
    Get over it.

    So witty.


  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.

    In short trump supporters still crying and cling to anything


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    biko wrote: »
    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.

    If they're claiming Biden didn't win the election and pushing a nonsense senility claim, that's a bunch of conspiracy nuts. Neither claim is proven to even the smallest degree. Do you agree with both statements?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    biko wrote: »
    In short
    Generals that endorse Biden = good boys.
    Generals that don't endorse Biden = conspiracy nuts.

    From the letter.

    “Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the ‘will of the people’ our Constitutional Republic is lost. Election integrity demands insuring there is one legal vote cast and counted per citizen,” the letter reads before going on to blast critics of voter ID laws as engaging in a “tyrannical intimidation tactic.”

    Yup, they’re conspiracy nuts.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,268 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    If they're claiming Biden didn't win the election and pushing a nonsense senility claim, that's a bunch of conspiracy nuts. Neither claim is proven to even the smallest degree. Do you agree with both statements?

    Imagine giving validation to people who won’t accept democracy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,284 ✭✭✭✭duploelabs


    From the letter.

    “Without fair and honest elections that accurately reflect the ‘will of the people’ our Constitutional Republic is lost. Election integrity demands insuring there is one legal vote cast and counted per citizen,” the letter reads before going on to blast critics of voter ID laws as engaging in a “tyrannical intimidation tactic.”

    Yup, they’re conspiracy nuts.

    You're missing the point. Biko goes looking for headlines to fulfill a preconceived theory and ignores the actual facts contained within their 'proof', that's how critical thinking works!!!










    /s


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  • Registered Users Posts: 19,415 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    biko wrote: »
    That crack has been there since Obama ;)

    Yes, he really did squander the cooperation and goodwill the Republicans extended to him from day one.

    Oh wait...


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