Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Carfacemandog

12gauge dave wrote: »

Hopefully we get similar numbers in the impeachment trial and put an end to the second ridiculous impeachment allegations by The Democrats and President Trump can ride off into the sunset with his full pension after changing US politics forever.

It would be fun watching them do further harm to themselves in order to prove their loyalty (and they will, they already voted to acquit him despite admitting his guilt re Ukraine straight after) onky for the likes of SDNY to go ahead and lock him up anyway for his other crimes. :pac:

ollkiller

12gauge dave wrote: »

Hopefully we get similar numbers in the impeachment trial and put an end to the second ridiculous impeachment allegations by The Democrats and President Trump can ride off into the sunset with his full pension after changing US politics forever.

Had control of the Senate and did sweet f*** all with it. As inept a leader as there will ever be.

extra gravy

12gauge dave wrote: »

after changing US politics forever.

Yeah, for the worst.

Water John

Greene today says it's the Trump Party.
'By Friday morning, however, Greene seemed unrepentant, as she used a press conference to sum up the intertwining of the Republican party and Trump. “The party is his – it doesn’t belong to anyone else,” Greene told reporters. On Twitter, too, Greene seemed upbeat.' Guardian

12gauge dave

everlast75 wrote: »

Okay, cool.

Do you need me to Google anything for you?

No your good chief take the night off.

briany

Water John wrote: »

Greene today says it's the Trump Party.
'By Friday morning, however, Greene seemed unrepentant, as she used a press conference to sum up the intertwining of the Republican party and Trump. “The party is his – it doesn’t belong to anyone else,” Greene told reporters. On Twitter, too, Greene seemed upbeat.' Guardian

In among that woman's nonsensical ramblings and appeals to gullibility and fear, here is something I can agree with her on. The Republican party of the United States began feeding a monster back in 2008 - the Tea Party - nursing it in the hopes it would mature into a great political weapon. This monster is something the Republican party thought it could control, but they were wrong on that count. That monster's master is Trump, not the party's old neocon establishment, and Trump can command it to eat the Republican party alive at his behest. Consequently, the old guard has kneeled in submission, and accepted the mantra - whatever Trump says is truth. Those not following this line of thinking will be branded heretics and expelled from the congregation.

I don't think the Trumpist bloc even really cares about the party being electable. That is to say, I don't think they'll compromise with traditional Republicans in order to keep the party from full schism into two parties. In that event, their preferred course of action would be to try and take over the country by force in a more concerted, focused version of what went down on January 6th, bypassing the Democratic process altogether.

12gauge dave

12gauge dave wrote: »

No your good chief take the night off.

Would you recommend he relaxes with a round of golf perhaps?



No doubt when Biden eventually does take a break, you and other Trumpists will be demanding to know why he isn't working.

Water John

Shockingly he's flying to Delaware for the weekend.

everlast75

See what happens when you don't call them sons of bitches or organise staged protests?


https://twitter.com/AnaCabrera/status/1357783583696556035?s=19

Faugheen

And just like that American politics is mostly boring again.

Exactly as it should be.

everlast75

Another day, another day where Joe unf**ks America....


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1357834986406244353?s=19

everlast75

everlast75 wrote: »

Another day, another day where Joe unf**ks America....


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1357834986406244353?s=19

Giving Trump access to intelligence is risky in the sense he might happily give it to news outlets like OANN etc.

everlast75

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Giving Trump access to intelligence is risky in the sense he might happily give it to news outlets like OANN etc.

Or sell it to the highest bidder...

AMKC

everlast75 wrote: »

Another day, another day where Joe unf**ks America....


https://twitter.com/kaitlancollins/status/1357834986406244353?s=19

Do former presidents get intell briefings and if so Why?
Is it so they can help the current administration if they want and think they might have good advice?

everlast75

AMKC wrote: »

Do former presidents get intell briefings and if so Why?
Is it so they can help the current administration if they want and think they might have good advice?

In theory, yes.

But Trump was such a simpleton, on balance it is more likely that he didn't understand his briefings, or wasn't interested in their import...

Being the grifter he is, he may look to monetise what he is told...

Dyr

Kumejima wrote: »

https://twitter.com/TIME/status/1357645896343834624


Any of you guys want to comment on this?

Dystopia is good, all hail our tech masters

Overheal

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/breaking-fox-reportedly-cancels-lou-dobbs-show/

Dobbs is finally out at FNC.

Ted_YNWA

Mod

Multiple posts regarding conspiracy over validity of election has been moved to CT forum.

Keep in on topic.

alchemist33

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Giving Trump access to intelligence is risky in the sense he might happily give it to news outlets like OANN etc.

Remember when he tweeted information about the Manchester bombing that was meant to be confidential? Biden is so right here

Celticfire

alchemist33 wrote: »

Remember when he tweeted information about the Manchester bombing that was meant to be confidential? Biden is so right here

What did he tweet?

ohnonotgmail

Celticfire wrote: »

What did he tweet?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/may/28/donald-trump-theresa-may-very-angry-about-manchester-bomb-leaks

duploelabs

alchemist33 wrote: »

Remember when he tweeted information about the Manchester bombing that was meant to be confidential? Biden is so right here

And tweeted out aerial shots and within hours redditors/space community had identified the confidential spy satellite they came from

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/05/758038714/can-president-trump-really-tweet-a-highly-classified-satellite-photo-yep-he-can?t=1612619190130

robinph

duploelabs wrote: »

And tweeted out aerial shots and within hours redditors/space community had identified the confidential spy satellite they came from

https://www.npr.org/2019/09/05/758038714/can-president-trump-really-tweet-a-highly-classified-satellite-photo-yep-he-can?t=1612619190130

Could be a simple way to get rid of him now though. Re-enable his Twitter account, send him the daily briefing containing something confidential like the turkey farm that the thanksgiving turkey Biden pardons comes from, wait for Trump to tweet something about the turkey farmers politics, lock Trump up for breaching confidentiality.

duploelabs

robinph wrote: »

Could be a simple way to get rid of him now though. Re-enable his Twitter account, send him the daily briefing containing something confidential like the turkey farm that the thanksgiving turkey Biden pardons comes from, wait for Trump to tweet something about the turkey farmers politics, lock Trump up for breaching confidentiality.

Do you think Trump has watched game of thrones and recognises the move?

pjohnson

duploelabs wrote: »

Do you think Trump has watched game of thrones and recognises the move?

Trump probably thinks it was a real life documentary. Got distracted by the parts with Dany and Jon. Got him thinking of Ivanka and if they should move to Westeros.

duploelabs

pjohnson wrote: »

Trump probably thinks it was a real life documentary. Got distracted by the parts with Dany and Jon. Got him thinking of Ivanka and if they should move to Westeros.

He probably thinks he's a descendent of the lannisters

Ted_YNWA

12gauge dave wrote: »

Some talk of trump in this thread considering its a Joe Biden thread?

Try and stay on topic please.

Give me my modhat back!!

Mod

While well intentioned, leave the modding to the mods.

Comparisons to Trump are guaranteed here. Bring the review of Trumps tweet history to his thread.

newhouse87

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1358204082427674625

Dems will have to stop being so tight with the purse strings.

12gauge dave

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) Tweeted:
It would be outrageous if we ran on giving more relief and ended up doing the opposite.

It’s sad that this is even an argument in the Dem party. COVID relief is disaster relief, & it’s urgent.

Our first act out of the gate should be big, bold, and strong. Not weaker & smaller. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1358213869844500481?s=20

newhouse87

newhouse87 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/1358204082427674625

Dems will have to stop being so tight with the purse strings.

12gauge dave wrote: »

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) Tweeted:
It would be outrageous if we ran on giving more relief and ended up doing the opposite.

It’s sad that this is even an argument in the Dem party. COVID relief is disaster relief, & it’s urgent.

Our first act out of the gate should be big, bold, and strong. Not weaker & smaller. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1358213869844500481?s=20

So, both of you were not upset that the GOP blocked raising the stimulus cheques from $600 to $2,000, but what's really grinding your gears is that some democrats want to target giving such $2,000 cheques to those who are very low income earners rather than also those who many would classify as middle income earners is that right?

So, are either of you actually concerned about low income earners in the US or maybe, just maybe, is this another example of faux outrage from the both of you?

If you are upset by this, then you must actually instead primarily be upset with the GOP and not with the democrats as this proposal has been raised by Republicans in general and only by centrist Democrats. Are you therefore also upset with these Republicans who also have suggested this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/02/02/biden-stimulus-checks/

If you are so concerned about low income earners, what is it about Biden's plan that the majority of Democrats approved and that the majority of Republicans rejected that you dislike?





In what way does the above demonstrate that Democrats are being tight with the purse strings as you say rather than the GOP?

ExMachina1000

I'd say it was a hard pill to swallow seeing Bernies tweet.

"Yeah but Trump" wont cover it this time.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'd say it was a hard pill to swallow seeing Bernies tweet.

To who?

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

"Yeah but Trump" wont cover it this time.

So if it doesn't cover it, you have a reply ready for my response above?

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

To who?

Americans on Twitter

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Americans on Twitter

What?

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So, BOTH OF YOU were not upset that the GOP blocked raising the stimulus cheques from $600 to $2,000, but what's really grinding your gears is that some democrats want to target giving such $2,000 cheques to those who are very low income earners rather than also those who many would classify as middle income earners is that right?

So, ARE EITHER OF YOU
actually concerned about low income earners in the US or maybe, just maybe, is this another example of faux outrage from the both of you?

IF YOU ARE upset by this, then you must actually instead primarily be upset with the GOP and not with the democrats as this proposal has been raised by Republicans in general and only by centrist Democrats. Are you therefore also upset with these Republicans who also have suggested this?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2021/02/02/biden-stimulus-checks/

IF YOU ARE SO CONCERNED about low income earners, what is it about Biden's plan that the majority of Democrats approved and that the majority of Republicans rejected that you dislike?





In what way does the above demonstrate that Democrats are being tight with the purse strings as you say rather than the GOP?

Why are you making it about the poster? AOC wrote the tweet and copied a tweet written by Bernie.


Why not comment on their words?
Look how you started each sentence. You are not posting in good faith.

everlast75

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'd say it was a hard pill to swallow seeing Bernies tweet.

"Yeah but Trump" wont cover it this time.

Maybe Biden should use twitter to childishly put down anyone who voices independent thought, perhaps threaten to primary them, or have goons threaten their offices?

This might come as a shock to you, but the Democrats aren't a block of identically minded people. They are a spectrum of folk, some central, some more "left".

They don't worship/live in fear of their leader.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Why are you making it about the poster? AOC wrote the tweet and copied a tweet written by Bernie.

Why not comment on their words?
Look how you started each sentence

You don't even understand the tweets do you?

As explained in my link, there are many Republicans who want to lower the threshold as well as a smaller number of Democrats who want to do likewise (as it should be as deciding the threshold for stimulus relief should not be a partisan issue).

Sanders and AOC are upset that there are these smaller number of Democrats that want to lower this threshold.

They are also, of course, as equally upset with the larger number of Republicans who want to do likewise.

And, they are of course also upset that the GOP tried to stop raising the amount in these cheques in the first place.

So, why have two Trumpists posted these tweets and articles? Only because they believe that there should not be disagreements with a party and that everyone should simply agree with whatever the president said and not have a backbone to voice their own opinion unlike the GOP under Trump.

Not because they are concerned about low income earners. Otherwise, where are their posts citing concern about the GOP blocking the increase in the cheques?

It's very clear that both of those posters thought that it was only Democrats rather than a larger number of Republicans who wanted to reduce the threshold and wanted to make another "gotcha!" post. Unfortunately, they did not do their research and have instead embarrassed themselves again.

Timberrrrrrrr

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You don't even understand the tweets do you?

As explained in my link, there are many Republicans who want to lower the threshold as well as a smaller number of Democrats who want to do likewise (as it should be as deciding the threshold for stimulus relief should not be a partisan issue).

Sanders and AOC are upset that there are these smaller number of Democrats that want to lower this threshold.

They are also, of course, as equally upset with the larger number of Republicans who want to do likewise.

And, they are of course also upset that the GOP tried to stop raising the amount in these cheques in the first place.

So, why have two Trumpists posted these tweets and articles? Only because they believe that there should not be disagreements with a party and that everyone should simply agree with whatever the president said and not have a backbone to voice their own opinion unlike the GOP under Trump.

Not because they are concerned about low income earners. Otherwise, where are their posts citing concern about the GOP blocking the increase in the cheques?

It's very clear that both of those posters thought that it was only Democrats rather than a larger number of Republicans who wanted to reduce the threshold and wanted to make another "gotcha!" post. Unfortunately, they did not do their research and have instead embarrassed themselves again.

An almost hourly occurence with them since Biden took over

It's amazing how they see a headline or article and automatically smash the post button on here without actually reading and undertstanding exactly what it is they are posting.

Tell me how

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I'd say it was a hard pill to swallow seeing Bernies tweet.

"Yeah but Trump" wont cover it this time.

Nah, most Democrats will understand the politics is more complex than a series of 3 word phrases chanted at a rally.

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You don't even understand the tweets do you?

As explained in my link, there are many Republicans who want to lower the threshold as well as a smaller number of Democrats who want to do likewise (as it should be as deciding the threshold for stimulus relief should not be a partisan issue).

Sanders and AOC are upset that there are these smaller number of Democrats that want to lower this threshold.

They are also, of course, as equally upset with the larger number of Republicans who want to do likewise.

And, they are of course also upset that the GOP tried to stop raising the amount in these cheques in the first place.

But do you not care about the low income earners in America?

Do you agree with Sanders?

So you think that Aoc and other far leftist voices will cause in fighting in the party?
Will it be a constant thorn in Joe Biden's side?

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

But do you not care about the low income earners in America?

Do you agree with Sanders?

So you think that Aoc and other far leftist voices will cause in fighting in the party?
Will it be a constant thorn in Joe Biden's side?

No, I agree with Sanders on this as do the majority of the Democratic party.

As I stated, there are more people in the Republican party who do not agree with this compared to the Democratic party.

So why did the Trumpist above state that "Dems will have to stop being so tight with the purse strings" in relation to these tweets? When it's in fact that case that there are more Republicans who want to lower the threshold than Democrats? When it's in fact the case the GOP blocked the increase in the cheques?

If you are agreeing with what Sanders said, then you are agreeing with the Democratic party and not with the Republican party, you do realise that right? That based on your statement of "do you not care about the low income earners in America?", that you disagree with those large number of Republicans who want to lower the threshold, and that you also disagree with the GOP as a whole who tried to stop a raise in the cheques?

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

No, I agree with Sanders on this as do the majority of the Democratic party.

As I stated, there are more people in the Republican party who do not agree with this compared to the Democratic party.

So why did the Trumpist above state that "Dems will have to stop being so tight with the purse strings" in relation to these tweets? When it's in fact that case that there are more Republicans who want to lower the threshold than Democrats? When it's in fact the case the GOP blocked the increase in the cheques?

I cant speak for someone else.

Do you want to answer any of my other questions or just leave it at that that. It's up to you.

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

But do you not care about the low income earners in America?

Do you agree with Sanders?

So you think that Aoc and other far leftist voices will cause in fighting in the party?
Will it be a constant thorn in Joe Biden's side?

No matter how hard you try to spin this, the fact is the Democrats obviously do care about low income families a hell of a lot more than the previous regime did. Thats the last regime that you so vigorously defended in here on a daily basis.

The fact AOC, Sanders and others are openly questioning the actions and decisions of the Dems is actually a good thing, it shows that there is nonfear of questioning the leader unlike the Republicans who were living in constant fear of Trump and his rage tweets.

Put it this way, if AOC or Sanders were in the Republican Party and said what they have said 2 years ago they would now be unemployed and out of favour with the whole Rep party.

ExMachina1000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I was asking the poster personally

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I cant speak for someone else.

Do you want to answer any of my other questions or just leave it at that that. It's up to you.

I answered your question about Sanders. Do you agree with Sanders, i.e. do you agree with the Democratic party and disagree with the Republican party, or would prefer to continue not answering questions as you usually do?

ExMachina1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I answered your question about Sanders. Do you agree with Sanders, i.e. do you agree with the Democratic party and disagree with the Republican party, or would prefer to continue not answering questions as you usually do?

One out of 4 you answered. Hence why I said do you want to answer the rest.
If not just say so. No point in going back and forward here otherwise.


Do you care about the low paid workers of America?

Do you think that Aoc and other far leftist voices will cause in fighting in the party?

Will it be a constant thorn in Joe Biden's side?

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I was asking the poster personally

Its a discussion site, you dont get to decide who replies to you.

extra gravy

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

One out of 4 you answered. Hence why I said do you want to answer the rest.
If not just say so. No point in going back and forward here otherwise

When are you going to answer questions? You're keen on everyone else doing so while you just dodge as usual.

ExMachina1000

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Its a discussion site, you dont get to decide who replies to you.

You can answer the questions if you want. You are correct it is a discussion site. My bad.

They are open to anyone to answer

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

But do you not care about the low income earners in America?

As I said I agree with Sanders, I have already answered this question.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Do you agree with Sanders?

I also answered this question.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

So you think that Aoc and other far leftist voices will cause in fighting in the party?
Will it be a constant thorn in Joe Biden's side?

I did not answer this question because it is in one of the dumbest I have ever been asked in this thread.

No, disagreements within a party is healthy. Everyone grovelling at the knees and agreeing with their dear president and not voicing their own opinions is not healthy.

Your turn to answer my questions.