Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

Smee_Again

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

Was the 2 month old separated from his or her parents?

Mitch Connor

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

It is utterly valid to criticise Biden on this, as it was Trump.

However, I would like to understand the content of your comment here.

You say Biden has picked up where Obama left off.

The tweet itself says it is no different to what Trump was doing. So why is it you point back to Obama rather than say Biden hasn't improved the situation following Trump?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

"On taking office, Joe Biden ordered a 100-day moratorium on deportation while the system and procedures for removal of migrants and asylum seekers were subject to review. But on 26 January, a Trump-appointed Texas judge issued a stay on the moratorium being implemented, and Ice resumed – and in some cases stepped up – deportations to Africa, Haiti and Central America."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/05/us-haiti-deportation-flights-suspended-ice-immigration

In what way is that Biden's fault exactly?

Mitch Connor

Mitch Connor wrote: »

It is utterly valid to criticise Biden on this, as it was Trump.

However, I would like to understand the content of your comment here.

You say Biden has picked up where Obama left off.

The tweet itself says it is no different to what Trump was doing. So why is it you point back to Obama rather than say Biden hasn't improved the situation following Trump?

Because Biden wasn't part of the Trump administration.

extra gravy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

Deliberately sensational tweet - check

Poster doesn't know what they're talking about - check

Well done for following the brief.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

"On taking office, Joe Biden ordered a 100-day moratorium on deportation while the system and procedures for removal of migrants and asylum seekers were subject to review. But on 26 January, a Trump-appointed Texas judge issued a stay on the moratorium being implemented, and Ice resumed – and in some cases stepped up – deportations to Africa, Haiti and Central America."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/feb/05/us-haiti-deportation-flights-suspended-ice-immigration

In what way is that Biden's fault exactly?

There was zero requirement (literally none) in the ruling for the government to schedule the deportations.

extra gravy

extra gravy wrote: »

Deliberately sensational tweet - check

Poster doesn't know what they're talking about - check

Well done for following the brief.

Extra Gravy cannot refute what is being said so resorts to inane bollocks - check.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Extra Gravy cannot refute what is being said so resorts to inane bollocks - check.

It was refuted before they posted. Biden imposed a moratorium on repatriations. A judge stopped it.

mcmoustache

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.


https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

If Biden ordered these deportations, then that's a shítty thing to do. If he ordered them stopped and you're misrepresenting things, that's a shítty thing to do.

extra gravy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Extra Gravy cannot refute what is being said so resorts to inane bollocks - check.

Already refuted by Aristotle. You accusing someone else of talking inane bollocks is funny though!

Tell me how

Deleted User wrote: »

Extra Gravy cannot refute what is being said so resorts to inane bollocks - check.

How many times do you want it refuted?

For Forks Sake

Leroy42 wrote: »

y0ssar1an22 , can you explain why, if the wall was such a remarkable and workable idea, that Trump failed so spectacularly to build it?

y0ssar1an22 wrote: »

money

I thought Mexico was going to pay for it?
Fairly certain I heard a varnished looking man make that statement repeatedly....

extra gravy

https://twitter.com/weijia/status/1359190558724534274?s=19

More good news.

extra gravy

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/weijia/status/1359190558724534274?s=19

More good news.

Not good enough he should have ended the pandemic by now and since he's not playing golf you'd think he would have cured cancer too eh eh eh?

namloc1980

Deleted User wrote: »

I see Buddy Biden is carrying on from where himself and Obama left off.

Haiti is in greater chaos than usual to boot.

https://twitter.com/democracynow/status/1359140342277279746

Eh, you missed the part where Biden put an embargo on deportations for 100 day but a federal judge over ruled the order. Or you're just being disingenuous. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but Trump supporters usually post in bad faith so likely the same here again.

Carfacemandog

Mitch Connor wrote: »

It is utterly valid to criticise Biden on this, as it was Trump.

However, I would like to understand the content of your comment here.

You say Biden has picked up where Obama left off.

The tweet itself says it is no different to what Trump was doing. So why is it you point back to Obama rather than say Biden hasn't improved the situation following Trump?

Well they wouldn't want to appear disloyal now would they? After all, if there's one thing the Cult of Trump absolutely will not tolerate under any circumstances it is disloyalty.

Timberrrrrrrr

Well this is interesting if true!

https://twitter.com/BlackCatUnloads/status/1358961433007042565?s=19

ohnonotgmail

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well this is interesting if true!

https://twitter.com/BlackCatUnloads/status/1358961433007042565?s=19

I'm surprised they haven't been fired already.

Water John

Doesn't seem to an unusual practice. Two notable ones are being retained, one of whom is investigating Hunter Biden's taxes.
'John Durham will remain in place to investigate the origins of the Russia probe, but not as US attorney for the district of Connecticut, the official said. He was appointed as a special counsel and given extra protections for the inquiry by Attorney General William Barr last fall.

David Weiss, US attorney for Delaware, will also remain in place. Hunter Biden, the president’s son, said in December that federal officials in Delaware were investigating his taxes.' Guardian

robinph

extra gravy wrote: »

https://twitter.com/weijia/status/1359190558724534274?s=19

More good news.

The word "underserved" had me confused for a moment due to reading it as "undeserved" and that it was a bit of cruel wording for the tweet.

They really should have used a different word in that context, and they are lucky that spell checking didn't catch them out.

extra gravy

robinph wrote: »

The word "underserved" had me confused for a moment due to reading it as "undeserved" and that it was a bit of cruel wording for the tweet.

They really should have used a different word in that context, and they are lucky that spell checking didn't catch them out.

Agree, I misread it as "undeserved" too. Don't think it's a word one would come across too often.

Buddy Biden carrying on Trump's attempts to extradite Julian Assange.


Earlier today, a coalition of press freedom, civil liberties, and human rights groups—including Amnesty International USA, the Committee to Protect Journalists, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, Human Rights Watch, the American Civil Liberties Union—formally asked the Justice Department to abandon the appeal and dismiss the underlying indictment. (The Knight Institute is also one of the signatories.) The letter states:

"While our organizations have different perspectives on Mr. Assange and his organization, we share the view that the government’s indictment of him poses a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad. . . .

The Trump administration positioned itself as an antagonist to the institution of a free and unfettered press in numerous ways. Its abuse of its prosecutorial powers was among the most disturbing. We are deeply concerned about the way that a precedent created by prosecuting Assange could be leveraged—perhaps by a future administration—against publishers and journalists of all stripes. Major news organizations share this concern, which is why the announcement of charges against Assange in May 2019 was met with vociferous and nearly universal condemnation from virtually every major American news outlet, even though many of those news outlets have criticized Mr. Assange in the past."

https://www.justsecurity.org/74614/the-biden-administration-should-drop-the-assange-case/


Two things I assumed Biden would sort out when he became president;

- End the ludicrous campaign against Assange
- Get back into the Iran Deal.

Two layups and Biden hasn't even hit the backboard.

He won't lift sanctions on Iran until they halt their uranium enrichment. The United States pulled out of a deal that Iran was following impeccably, and now they want Iran to follow a deal that no longer exists, all while the sanctions continue to cripple the average Iranian.

Enough of the willy waving. Get back to the negotiation table and hammer out a deal, for everyone's sake.

ohnonotgmail

Deleted User wrote: »

Buddy Biden carrying on Trump's attempts to extradite Julian Assange.


Earlier today, a coalition of press freedom, civil liberties, and human rights groups—including Amnesty International USA, the Committee to Protect Journalists, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, Human Rights Watch, the American Civil Liberties Union—formally asked the Justice Department to abandon the appeal and dismiss the underlying indictment. (The Knight Institute is also one of the signatories.) The letter states:

"While our organizations have different perspectives on Mr. Assange and his organization, we share the view that the government’s indictment of him poses a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad. . . .

The Trump administration positioned itself as an antagonist to the institution of a free and unfettered press in numerous ways. Its abuse of its prosecutorial powers was among the most disturbing. We are deeply concerned about the way that a precedent created by prosecuting Assange could be leveraged—perhaps by a future administration—against publishers and journalists of all stripes. Major news organizations share this concern, which is why the announcement of charges against Assange in May 2019 was met with vociferous and nearly universal condemnation from virtually every major American news outlet, even though many of those news outlets have criticized Mr. Assange in the past."

https://www.justsecurity.org/74614/the-biden-administration-should-drop-the-assange-case/


Two things I assumed Biden would sort out when he became president;

- End the ludicrous campaign against Assange
- Get back into the Iran Deal.

Two layups and Biden hasn't even hit the backboard.

He won't lift sanctions on Iran until they halt their uranium enrichment. The United States pulled out of a deal that Iran was following impeccably, and now they want Iran to follow a deal that no longer exists, all while the sanctions continue to cripple the average Iranian.

Enough of the willy waving. Get back to the negotiation table and hammer out a deal, for everyone's sake.

so your problem is that biden hasn't yet managed to un**** everything that trump ****ed up in his four years? He has not even been in the job 3 weeks.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Enough of the willy waving. Get back to the negotiation table and hammer out a deal, for everyone's sake.

The man has signed a ridiculous number of EOs in his first few weeks, and you're focusing on the fact that he hasn't signed two more? Give the man some time, Jesus!

extra gravy

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The man has signed a ridiculous number of EOs in his first few weeks, and you're focusing on the fact that he hasn't signed two more? Give the man some time, Jesus!

Same posters who never had an issue with Donald playing golf and watching tv all the time are now demanding Biden should be working 24/7. And you have the other fella saying he was signing so many EOs he was a dictator. They can't make up their mind what kind of faux outrage to go for.

The Phantom Jipper

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Buddy Biden carrying on Trump's attempts to extradite Julian Assange.


Earlier today, a coalition of press freedom, civil liberties, and human rights groups—including Amnesty International USA, the Committee to Protect Journalists, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, Human Rights Watch, the American Civil Liberties Union—formally asked the Justice Department to abandon the appeal and dismiss the underlying indictment. (The Knight Institute is also one of the signatories.) The letter states:

"While our organizations have different perspectives on Mr. Assange and his organization, we share the view that the government’s indictment of him poses a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad. . . .

The Trump administration positioned itself as an antagonist to the institution of a free and unfettered press in numerous ways. Its abuse of its prosecutorial powers was among the most disturbing. We are deeply concerned about the way that a precedent created by prosecuting Assange could be leveraged—perhaps by a future administration—against publishers and journalists of all stripes. Major news organizations share this concern, which is why the announcement of charges against Assange in May 2019 was met with vociferous and nearly universal condemnation from virtually every major American news outlet, even though many of those news outlets have criticized Mr. Assange in the past."

https://www.justsecurity.org/74614/the-biden-administration-should-drop-the-assange-case/


Two things I assumed Biden would sort out when he became president;

- End the ludicrous campaign against Assange
- Get back into the Iran Deal.

Two layups and Biden hasn't even hit the backboard.

He won't lift sanctions on Iran until they halt their uranium enrichment. The United States pulled out of a deal that Iran was following impeccably, and now they want Iran to follow a deal that no longer exists, all while the sanctions continue to cripple the average Iranian.

Enough of the willy waving. Get back to the negotiation table and hammer out a deal, for everyone's sake.

Is sorting the Julian Assange situation top of your list of what he should be doing? I suspect he has bigger fish to fry at the moment.

MeMen2_MoRi_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Buddy Biden carrying on Trump's attempts to extradite Julian Assange.


Earlier today, a coalition of press freedom, civil liberties, and human rights groups—including Amnesty International USA, the Committee to Protect Journalists, the Freedom of the Press Foundation, Human Rights Watch, the American Civil Liberties Union—formally asked the Justice Department to abandon the appeal and dismiss the underlying indictment. (The Knight Institute is also one of the signatories.) The letter states:

"While our organizations have different perspectives on Mr. Assange and his organization, we share the view that the government’s indictment of him poses a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad. . . .

The Trump administration positioned itself as an antagonist to the institution of a free and unfettered press in numerous ways. Its abuse of its prosecutorial powers was among the most disturbing. We are deeply concerned about the way that a precedent created by prosecuting Assange could be leveraged—perhaps by a future administration—against publishers and journalists of all stripes. Major news organizations share this concern, which is why the announcement of charges against Assange in May 2019 was met with vociferous and nearly universal condemnation from virtually every major American news outlet, even though many of those news outlets have criticized Mr. Assange in the past."

https://www.justsecurity.org/74614/the-biden-administration-should-drop-the-assange-case/


Two things I assumed Biden would sort out when he became president;

- End the ludicrous campaign against Assange
- Get back into the Iran Deal.

Two layups and Biden hasn't even hit the backboard.

He won't lift sanctions on Iran until they halt their uranium enrichment. The United States pulled out of a deal that Iran was following impeccably, and now they want Iran to follow a deal that no longer exists, all while the sanctions continue to cripple the average Iranian.

Enough of the willy waving. Get back to the negotiation table and hammer out a deal, for everyone's sake.

The campaign against WikiLeaks/assange from the US started under the Obama/Biden administration, why would you now assume, Joe now just a few weeks in office would have an about turn on this?

You should of had more hope when Donnie was POTUS that the case against assange would fall away or a nice pardon considering the benefit he got from the DNC leaks.. also didn't he pass comment early in his presidency or before it that he would look at the pardon for assange.

On the Iran thing, I'm pretty sure what we are hearing is them "being around the table" negotiating.. each side wanting the other to move first, it's all negotiating!!

Tell me how

extra gravy wrote: »

Same posters who never had an issue with Donald playing golf and watching tv all the time are now demanding Biden should be working 24/7. And you have the other fella saying he was signing so many EOs he was a dictator. They can't make up their mind what kind of faux outrage to go for.

Remember the 'He has done nothing for 47 years' argument?

I'm starting to believe that some might be objective in how they are looking at Biden.

MeMen2_MoRi_

MeMen2_MoRi_ wrote: »

The campaign against WikiLeaks/assange from the US started under the Obama/Biden administration, why would you now assume, Joe now just a few weeks in office would have an about turn on this?

You should of had more hope when Donnie was POTUS that the case against assange would fall away or a nice pardon considering the benefit he got from the DNC leaks.. also didn't he pass comment early in his presidency or before it that he would look at the pardon for assange.

On the Iran thing, I'm pretty sure what we are hearing is them "being around the table" negotiating.. each side wanting the other to move first, it's all negotiating!!

Obama/Biden tried to get at Assange based on the sexual assault allegations.

It was the Trump administration that indicted Assange in relation to the Espionage Act, something Obama wouldn't do because he knew it was a load of bollocks and would be detrimental to journalism.

The New York Times and other outlets were privy to the same information that got Assange indicted.

Assange was charged (by the Trump admin) with 'conspiracy to commit computer intrusion' and shortly thereafter was indicted (by the Trump admin.) under the Espionage Act.

The whole shabang was exacerbated exponentially under Trump.

eagle eye

extra gravy wrote: »

Same posters who never had an issue with Donald playing golf and watching tv all the time are now demanding Biden should be working 24/7. And you have the other fella saying he was signing so many EOs he was a dictator. They can't make up their mind what kind of faux outrage to go for.

It looks like he has been working 24/7 to this point in fairness.

eagle eye

The Phantom Jipper wrote: »

Is sorting the Julian Assange situation top of your list of what he should be doing? I suspect he has bigger fish to fry at the moment.

It's something that can be done very quickly and send a good message around the globe. I think he should do it quickly.

MeMen2_MoRi_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Obama/Biden tried to get at Assange based on the sexual assault allegations.

It was the Trump administration that indicted Assange in relation to the Espionage Act, something Obama wouldn't do because he knew it was a load of bollocks and would be detrimental to journalism.

The New York Times and other outlets were privy to the same information that got Assange indicted.

Assange was charged (by the Trump admin) with 'conspiracy to commit computer intrusion' and shortly thereafter was indicted (by the Trump admin.) under the Espionage Act.

The whole shabang was exacerbated exponentially under Trump.

The sexual assault that took place in Sweden? Or are you meaning they were open to catching him and extraditing him to face charges in Sweden..

That's a strange take on why Obama/Joe didn't take the steps we seen under Trump against Assange.. The Obama administration has the reputation of being against journalism that is based off of leaks..

https://www.cjr.org/criticism/barack_obamas_press_freedom_legacy.php

I'll ask again, what had you pinning your hopes on Biden doing any favours with regards anything WikiLeaks/Assange?

Also Assange showed up in the Mueller probe in relation to Roger Stone iirc. He rarely behaved as a simple leaker of important news. Eg he refused to engage with Russia leaks in 2016 so I tend to lack much sympathy for him. My sympathy does go to people like Manning though.

duploelabs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Also Assange showed up in the Mueller probe in relation to Roger Stone iirc. He rarely behaved as a simple leaker of important news. Eg he refused to engage with Russia leaks in 2016 so I tend to lack much sympathy for him. My sympathy does go to people like Manning though.

I'd be of the same opinion, whatever good that he did initially, he completely tarnished his reputation in laundering the dnc hack by Russian agents

MeMen2_MoRi_

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Also Assange showed up in the Mueller probe in relation to Roger Stone iirc. He rarely behaved as a simple leaker of important news. Eg he refused to engage with Russia leaks in 2016 so I tend to lack much sympathy for him. My sympathy does go to people like Manning though.

Yeah, I'd agree with these thoughts, I think the DNC leaks were more salacious stuff then actual public interest info like the Chelsea Manning stuff or Snowden.

I'm pretty sure the starting point of his downfall was the iraq war files leaked by Chelsea Manning? After that, the force of the US fell upon WikiLeaks and himself to shut up and stop speaking about leaks.. Visa/MasterCard/PayPal etc were all stopped doing business with WikiLeaks..

Given the above, thinking Joe biden is gonna help assange is a strange thought process.

Water John

Mentioned it yesterday but more details on the child benefit to lift many children out of poverty in the US. The Relief Bill will contain of $250/300 per month, higher payment for under 6s. That is a really radical move and much more important than the size of the once off Covid payment.

Timberrrrrrrr

Water John wrote: »

Mentioned it yesterday but more details on the child benefit to lift many children out of poverty in the US. The Relief Bill will contain of $250/300 per month, higher payment for under 6s. That is a really radical move and much more important than the size of the once off Covid payment.

I see they are also going to give people money to help pay for funerals, this will be retrospective as well

namloc1980

namloc1980 wrote: »

Eh, you missed the part where Biden put an embargo on deportations for 100 day but a federal judge over ruled the order. Or you're just being disingenuous. I'd like to give you the benefit of the doubt but Trump supporters usually post in bad faith so likely the same here again.

There's not many people on Boards that are further to the left than me.

So, ironically, you're closer ideologically to Trump than I am.

duploelabs

[Deleted User] wrote: »

There's not many people on Boards that are further to the left than me.
.

Believe me

ExMachina1000

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

ohnonotgmail

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

I'm sure that is at the top of his agenda every morning.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

Yes he included it in his non-existent Covid plan.

Timberrrrrrrr

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

Why would he? Have past presidents made announcements?

everlast75

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

I'm sure if he invites Martin, you will reply - "I can't believe he is allowing someone into the country when there's a global pandemic. Lol - typical hypocrisy from Biden"

And if he doesn't

"So now oul "Irish Joe" couldn't even bother to ask Martin over? See how disingenuous he is?"

Igotadose

More good news. "President Biden gets 62% approval in CNBC economic survey, topping first ratings of the last four presidents"

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/11/biden-gets-62percent-approval-in-cnbc-economic-survey-topping-first-ratings-of-the-last-four-presidents.html

everlast75

Igotadose wrote: »

More good news. "President Biden gets 62% approval in CNBC economic survey, topping first ratings of the last four presidents"

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/02/11/biden-gets-62percent-approval-in-cnbc-economic-survey-topping-first-ratings-of-the-last-four-presidents.html

His predecessor could never break 50%.

Another achievement by Joe in a month that Trump couldn't achieve in 4 years.

Water John

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

Has Joe Biden made any indication about the annual st Patrick's day visit from the Irish taoiseach

Here's a whole Thread where you can indulge your interest
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058154707

Called Mr. Martin and the Shamrock Fiasco. On what basis, I haven't a clue?

hotmail.com

Water John wrote: »

Here's a whole Thread where you can indulge your interest
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058154707

Called Mr. Martin and the Shamrock Fiasco. On what basis, I haven't a clue?

Relations must be quite sour between the two countries as so many want him to go and can't envisage him skipping it for a year.

Water John

Relations between the US and ourselves have dramatically improved in the last month.