Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743567#Comment_121743567

Hearsay about cognitive abilities is about par for course in contemporary discussion. That and references to evoking the 25th amendment.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743649#Comment_121743649

And trump was assessed as we know with flying colours.

"person woman man camera tv"

The reality is it would be better for both parties to have younger candidates, but that's not gonna happen, so the choice is between these two.

And everyone knows there is only one choice there.

After all, Biden never confused the woman he raped with his ex wife.

duploelabs

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743649#Comment_121743649

Except in a binary choice of who will become president it is pertinent to compare the two, especially when it comes to who would have genuine concerns and who just project childish mindless tribalism, the former demonstrated by posts about both Biden's and trump's apparent mental decline. Speaking of which I'm trying to find your posts about trump's gaffs, yet I can't find them. Would that mean you're part of the latter group?

mikefromcork

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743649#Comment_121743649

Ah the election is a choice between a rapist and an old man being accused of having memory issues. You seem to have done your assessments and chosen the rapist.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743749#Comment_121743749

And the rapist is also an old man accused of having memory issues.

You couldn't make up the hoops some people will go through to 'justify' their stance against Biden.

ancapailldorcha

I've found it illuminating that nobody critical of Biden can actually put forward cogent criticisms of his actions and policies. It's always the tired old tropes of dementia, Sleepy Joe, dubious poll numbers and video dumps of his gaffes.

If you're going to base your opinion based solely on gaffes, Biden is objectively the superior candidate. I'll take the guy who went out of his way to know who al-Sisi and Mitterand are and were than the rapist who lost count of how many world wars there have been any day of the week.

briany

The point about having possible dementia is getting tossed back and forth. If we just assume that they *both* have dementia, and that they are the only two choices, then would people choose the one with dementia who's trying to be a statesman or the one with dementia who is using his scowling mugshot photo as an emblem of his campaign?

Answers below. 👇

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744017#Comment_121744017

It's quite telling in that nationalists don't give a crap about their own people. The Biden presidency has objectively made things at least a tiny bit better for many ordinary Americans. The Trumpsters can't refute that so we get video dump after video dump sprinkled with unsourced poll numbers.

I don't really care about his age. I care deeply about what he actually does and the fact that he's clearly proud of his Irish heritage is no bad thing either.

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744125#Comment_121744125

It's amazing how many of the Irish people trashing Biden for something said in a clip from a speech couldn't bring themselves to watch any of Biden's speeches here...

cj maxx

The world is screwed . Biden is doting , forgetting people’s names and confused . Trump is doting suggesting people inject themselves with cleaning products to protect against covid . Dear oh dear .

aidanodr

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743740#Comment_121743740

@hupdadup

Biden - Born: November 20, 1942 (age 81 years)

Trump - Born: June 14, 1946 (age 77 years)

Surely one could argue similar re age where Trump is concerned? Is it we have arbitrarily picked an age cut off of 80 I wonder?

In this debate about age it does come across that Trump is a young buck vs biden. We dont seem to hear the age issue where Trump is concerned, there is only 4 years in the difference

In my view to be an ACTIVE President ( rather than titular ) of any country a max age of 70 or even 65 should be considered OR if over 70 then ONE term only?

rossie1977

SOTU is March 7th. I expect Biden to once again tear down the house just like last year...

odyssey06

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744289#Comment_121744289

If you've been paying any attention to Trump lately, he has been more than confused mixing up a name here and there, streams of gibberish coming out of him. But the dump feeds of pro Trump propaganda you've getting this from won't show you that.

Self discrediting nonsense.

rossie1977

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744289#Comment_121744289

Show me video on Trump riding a bike..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdkGCDvpOp0&pp=ygUVSm9lIGJpZGVuIHJpZGluZyBiaWtl

aidanodr

@hupdadup "Trump is energetic and sharp, where as joe is often times slow and confused."

We will agree to disagree there TBH.

As many people who say Biden is not mentally fit for office will say similar of Trump. A simple google search using either name with MENTAL added in search shows articles on this debate for a long time.

What I am essentially saying is where there is a PRESIDENT position that has actual huge powers like USA that has profound effect on the whole world vs a titular head .. then age should come into it where mental and physical facualties are taken into account. The pool of people at 70+ let alone late 70s and then 80s who are PHYSICALLY and mentally at there peak to be able to handle such an office is quiet small I imagine?

So in this case, I THINK, Just my opinion .. for such a high powered position an age cut off should be in place - 65 to 70 and if it has to be, a president whos age is 70 to 75, then a max of one term.

And I am not a young buck being ageist - Pushing toward retirement in a few years myself.

Hande hoche!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSm7bjGjEwM

Here's another one of Biden on a bike.

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743749#Comment_121743749

Mmmm, and lest we all forget, Trump couldn't even remember who his wife was in the E. Jean Carroll sexual assault case.

Overheal

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744470#Comment_121744470

“That’s Marla!”

Tony EH

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121743959#Comment_121743959

Well, they can't put forth any policy arguments, because that would require them to elaborate on Trump's policies and there aren't any. So, it all just comes down to a childish slagging effort where the people who are trying to make out that Biden is in "cognitive decline" end up looking like fools, because "their" guy doesn't come out of that line of fire smelling like roses either. Not to mention the fact that he's a sex offender, a fraud, and has a litany of court cases stacked against him.

What a guy.

ancapailldorcha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744502#Comment_121744502

But he has the fires of youth burning inside him at.... <checks notes>... 77.

Once again, everything conservatives say is disposable.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121744463#Comment_121744463

Comparing the two, like you referred to, in the past week and on camera, Trump referred to Haley as Pelosi and admitted there was in fact an insurrection while his lawyers were in court arguing the contrary.

Yet you do not mention these at all.

The report itself is from a Trump appointee who opines that Biden's not remembering may be part of a legal strategy and mentions it in the context of how he would appear to a jury. Biden, as I've already pointed out, gave a 5 hour interview while Israel were attacking Gaza.

He also clears Biden and thereby destroys the both-sidesism put forward by Trump supporters.

Now, if your argument is to be taken as genuine, in that there should be a cut off point for statesmen, then okay. That is a debate that should occur. But until the, then there are three options for the American public;

1) Do not vote for Joe Biden, thus increasing the chances of Trump being elected

2) Vote for Trump, with the same result as number 1) above

3) Vote for Joe Biden

That's it.

They are the choices, failing something cataclysmic between now and November.

So on the one hand you can vote for the 81 year old man who can be forgetful, but who has zero criminal indictments, was not found liable for sexual assault and rape, was not found guilty of defamation to the tune of $83 million plus, has had 12 years of service as Vice-President and President and was never impeached, nor did he cause riots at the Capitol Building.

Or, you know, you could go for options 1) or 2) above.

McFly85

There is definitely a conversation to have about an upper age limit for the presidency, but it’s just not possible to legitimately think that Trump wouldn’t be a part of that. Either they’re both too old or neither of them are.

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745018#Comment_121745018

Considering their is a minimum age limit for the POTUS position, would be sensible to have a maximum age. Might also be worth introducing terms limits in congress but that's another story.

Igotadose

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745573#Comment_121745573

The minimum age thing is in the Constitution from the beginning (1789?). There was no upper limit then, as people didn't live very long then.

Hande hoche!

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745778#Comment_121745778

Any discussion on presidential longevity should reference Jimmy Carter. Still hanging in there at ninety nine. If Kissinger can make it to one hundred, I hope he can too.

MangleBadger

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745748#Comment_121745748

Do they want their president raping people instead?

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745810#Comment_121745810

@hupdadup just doesn't have the same level of hate for rapists as us.

everlast75

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745748#Comment_121745748

"So you would re-elect Biden out of hating Trump alone?"

I think you need to read my post again.

Otagepingi

Media-managed mask beginning to slip?

He's not being prosecuted because they think a jury of Americans would see him as a frail old man with bad memory.

It seems increasingly like elder abuse to see him shuffling and mumbling/shouting. One feels kind of sorry for the fella.

eightieschewbaccy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745937#Comment_121745937

It's a possible scenario, I wouldn't be viewing it as likely atm. Worth noting that him facing an actual conviction could rapidly change the mindset of the voting public. Secondly polling this far out from an election doesn't say a whole lot. Incumbents polling badly this far out is not unusual. Here's the polling on Romney just weeks before the election.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121745978#Comment_121745978

You've gone off on a tangent about posters hatred of Trump as if it's unjustified or delusional. There's plenty to hate trump for. Egging on an insurrection, rape, his criminality and the fact that he laps up the support of white supremacists.

Fyi, that other quoted post seems to imply you don't even believe he's a rapist?