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Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,290 ✭✭✭Silentcorner


    Post edited by Sephiroth_dude at


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,361 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Hmmm.....



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    How is the border crisis "imaginary" exactly? Even Biden and the Democrats now admit something has to be done to stem the flow of people entering the country illegally. The mayor of New York said it's going to destroy the city, and several other mayors have said their cities are at breaking point because of it. It's not imaginary.

    As for inflation, ask the average American if they think it's coming down or is better now than under trump, and they'll say no. The cost of groceries, fuel, eating out and utilities are all at record highs. Telling them that actually they're wrong and the economy is great, which seems to be joe Bidens tactic, isn't really going to change that



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    is asking “the average American” a substitute for imperial evidence and a well supported argument.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    well, we’ve all seen him naked so he can’t be smeared.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Fuel is absolutely, unequivocally not at record highs.

    Groceries and eating out are essentially always at record highs unless there is a recession. Real wages in the US are higher than they were 4 years ago. Discretionary spending is higher. People across the board think the economy is bad while they personally think they are doing ok. The people are in fact wrong - how exactly you approach that I don't know because it's an exceptionally bizarre scenario.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    The average Americans are the ones who are voting so, yes. **** is ridiculously expensive and like it or not people blame the president for that. No amount of lecturing about how they're wrong actually is going to change anything. I think you meant "empirical" evidence but do you actually know what that means? There is plenty of empirical evidence that inflation and the cost of living is out of control. Yes, it's starting to come down a bit, but when the starting point is many multiples of what it was 5 years ago, it's still stupidly high.

    (Empirical: based on, concerned with, or verifiable by observation or experience rather than theory or pure logic.)



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,275 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Well it must be imaginary in the minds of Republican lawmakers, so concerned were they about the issue they didn't go along with Biden's bipartisan bill after getting their orders from the rapist in chief.

    The Republicans don't give a damn about the border, or the country, it's just an excuse for them to racist dog whistle.

    So on the one side you have Democrats trying to work to responsibly deal with an issue, on the other hand you have a bunch of wreckers. Anybody who bases it as a reason to vote Republican - for any position, Congress or President is just showing themselves to be duped by Republican lies, or just a racist.

    So yes, the border 'crisis' is imaginary. That doesn't mean measures about immigration aren't needed.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Sorry, I shouldn't have said "record highs" about the fuel. It's still expensive at around $4 but it has been approaching $6 a gallon at times over the past few years so that's something. 2 takeout sandwiches came to almost $40 yesterday, just sandwiches, no drinks or sides. I found that shocking. It's stuff like that which makes people think more and more "basic" stuff is becoming unaffordable. If everyone's wrong, then Biden better start on doing something about this misconception rather than just saying they're stupid to think that, which isn't really working.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    I'd have to challenge you on that Podge. The economy is undoubtedly doing better, for wall st. For regular people, it's a difficult time. Everything is significantly more expensive, and like seemingly everywhere else, housing costs are through the roof. Having high employment numbers is less impressive when those jobs don't cover the basic cost of living. The government has done **** all to combat the gross profiteering that's been occurring for the last few years, not have they addressed the housing crisis.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    More and more people are having to work two jobs just to cover the basics. It's tough times for a lot of Americans



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Real wages, adjusted for inflation, are up on 2020 in the US.

    I don't doubt that some people are suffering however the bottom quartile of wage earners have seen wage growth higher than anyone else. The exact opposite of what you're claiming has happened. Instead, middle income Americans are finding that their vast discretionary spending doesn't go quite as far cause service workers are being paid more. They are, however, continuing that discretionary spending at record levels.

    Now, I'm also aware of the disconnect between this being true and people believing it. I genuinely have no idea how to approach that issue because it is not something that traditionally has happened. But if the question is "are people wrong when they say the economy is bad", the answer is still "absolutely, yes".



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,238 ✭✭✭monseiur


    It's disappointing that you regard the truth as weird. Inconvenient perhaps but not weird.

    We are in the 21st century and are supposed to be enlightened, modern and broadminded etc. US claims to be the leader/protector of the free world. A world where might is not always supposed to be right, where minorities are encouraged to seek equal rights, freedom and self-determination.

    Yet Biden is providing unlimited financial, military & logistics aid to a brutal regime to ensure the genocide of a minority Palestine people who are oppressed / living in the world's biggest open air prison since they were driven off their land and lost everything over 75 years ago .

    Biden and his cronies (especially the jew Antony Blinken) nor his predecessors did nothing over the years to solve the festering crisis. The all powerful jewish lobby in the US calls the shots and Biden hasn't the guts to stand up to them.

    US have the power to help, with others, to create a two state set up where all could live in harmony with an element of freedom. The current slaughter of the totally innocent presided over by Biden & co. is just prolonging the suffering & pain and driving more and more desperate young men without hope, without a future, many now without family, into the hands of groups like Hamas. As they see it they have nothing left to lose.

    Some future US president will eventually have to stand up to the jews, Biden has shown he lacks the back bone, the fortitude, statesmanship, vision or compassion to do it ……………..and as for Trump whose daughter is married to a jew God help us all.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    A smaller percentage of people work 2 jobs than in 2019.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    News flash, Joe Biden isn’t dropping bombs on Palestinians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You topped your previous post with that one. Nice work.



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I’m no fan of Biden’s support of Israel.

    But he’s actually limiting arms exports to Israel more than any president in living memory. Is it enough? Definitely not. But in a binary choice between Biden and Trump he’s clearly the better candidate for Palestine.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    You might also be letting the veil slip a bit with the ol Jew bashing there.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,193 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Bearly, and those were 2023 numbers. Id imagine it's even higher now. Also, more Americans than ever before are working two full time jobs



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