Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

amber69

NSAman wrote: »

Lovely to see thousands of flags representing those that died in the pandemic fluttering in the wind for the inauguration.

Our could it represent those that voted for Biden who had died?

Na. You're mixing that up with Trump.

jill_valentine

They did not attempt a coup, It was not an insurrection no matter how much a partisan media are trying to argue that it is. It was a one day protest that unfortunately led to some rioting. It was not a white supremist movement as I have seen some people try to say that it was.

- They brought white supremacist flags, so they seem to think it was
- Your opinion it wasn't an attempted coup or insurrection is not shared by the police officers involved, security analysts in the US or elsewhere, federal law enforcement agencies, GOP leaders, or the people being charged with conspiracy.

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Deleted User wrote: »

He's not trying to reduce the separation of church and state. He's not using his religion to reduce the rights of others. Attending mass simply isn't a biggy.

Of course not.

But I'm making the observation that America has an ongoing issue with religion. Their new president will attend mass before the inauguration and will undoubtedly mention God in his speech later and over the next 4 years.

America has to come to terms with its unhealthy attitude to religion at some point. It won't be happening in this term.

RonaVirus

NSAman wrote: »

Lovely to see thousands of flags representing those that died in the pandemic fluttering in the wind for the inauguration.

Our could it represent those that voted for Biden who had died?

Probably people long dead who voted for Biden

Bring on the new patriot act..

Unleash the dogs of war..



Group hugs..

ohnonotgmail

hotmail.com wrote: »

Of course not.

But I'm making the observation that America has an ongoing issue with religion. Their new president will attend mass before the inauguration and will undoubtedly mention God in his speech later and over the next 4 years.

America has to come to terms with its unhealthy attitude to religion at some point. It won't be happening in this term.

given this thread is about biden what is unhealthy about his attitude to religion? what is his attitude to religion?

nolivesmatter

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

This is ridiculous.

Americans get two choices in the most diverse country in the world for their head of state. If Biden was an atheist, he wouldn't have lost any votes while the vocal Christian right would rather have the wolf in very poor quality sheep's clothing.

If he was an atheist would he have gotten through the primaries?

francois

RonaVirus wrote: »

Probably people long dead who voted for Biden

Lame

Overheal

nolivesmatter wrote: »

If he was an atheist would he have gotten through the primaries?

Don’t know if you noticed we just had an atheist fly out of the White House lawn

jill_valentine

hotmail.com wrote: »

Of course not.

But I'm making the observation that America has an ongoing issue with religion. Their new president will attend mass before the inauguration and will undoubtedly mention God in his speech later and over the next 4 years.

America has to come to terms with its unhealthy attitude to religion at some point. It won't be happening in this term.

Not wild about the conflation of Church and State, but for Biden it's a sincerely held personal thing he relied on during significant personal loss. It's not a big perfomative overture to crazy Evangelicals (who aren't wild about Catholics).

America is what it is, so long as he's not doing any weird state imposition stuff with it I'm good.

robinph

hotmail.com wrote: »

Of course not.

But I'm making the observation that America has an ongoing issue with religion. Their new president will attend mass before the inauguration and will undoubtedly mention God in his speech later and over the next 4 years.

America has to come to terms with its unhealthy attitude to religion at some point. It won't be happening in this term.

Whilst I've no time for religion, I'd rather someone who actually follows a religion and adheres to it's beliefs without ramming it down everyone else's throat ... than someone who clearly doesn't believe, but continually lies about it and doesn't follow any of the beliefs and claims to be a deity themselves and whose followers portray them as the second coming.

Carfacemandog

Chris_Heilong wrote: »

They did not attempt a coup, It was not an insurrection no matter how much a partisan media are trying to argue that it is. It was a one day protest that unfortunately led to some rioting. It was not a white supremist movement as I have seen some people try to say that it was. It was simply people who feel the election was not handled correctly and feel that they have not been listened to (weather you believe this or not does not matter as this is what they believe).

Biden is totally over reacting with the military inauguration and it calls forth images of third world dictatorships, At the moment there is a movement to not see the other side as being a political opponent but as an enemy which is not how the republicans view things, I have heard leftists actually say all MAGA supporters should be threated as domestic terrorists...like wtf is wrong with them, what ever happened to live and let live.

Sorry to break it to you, but with your posting history you are far, far less credible than almost any media source out there. There is no point even pretending that you are remotely interested in arguing in good faith, given your consistency towards the opposite.

I'll take the word of experts like republican appointed national intelligence officer Fiona Hill over both yours and the media's, though. You won't like what she has to say, so feel free to pretend to have never seen it. https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2021/01/11/capitol-riot-self-coup-trump-fiona-hill-457549

moneyman

moneyman wrote: »

Why are you assuming that legitimate criticism of Biden and the Democratic party isn't, or won't be, allowed here?

I haven't seen or read that here anywhere.

Trump supporters having issues with reading comprehension, that's a turn up for the books.

Boggles

hotmail.com wrote: »

Looks like Biden will attend mass before the inauguration, reflecting America's strange relationship with religion.

Also, it seems religious services still permitted despite the pandemic in the States.

I agree.

He should have tear gassed some folks and awkwardly fingered a bible upside down.

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robinph wrote: »

Whilst I've no time for religion, I'd rather someone who actually follows a religion and adheres to it's beliefs without ramming it down everyone else's throat ... than someone who clearly doesn't believe, but continually lies about it and doesn't follow any of the beliefs and claims to be a deity themselves and whose followers portray them as the second coming.

If Biden accepts gay marriage, abortion, then he doesn't adhere to Catholic beliefs.

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hotmail.com wrote: »

If Biden accepts gay marriage, abortion, then he doesn't adhere to Catholic beliefs.

You can say that about most Irish people who consider themselves to be Catholic. The reality is plenty adhere to a non exact version of Catholicism. So he's in line with most Irish Catholics..

Christy42

hotmail.com wrote: »

If Biden accepts gay marriage, abortion, then he doesn't adhere to Catholic beliefs.

Near as I can tell the man has never been married to another man nor has he had an abortion. Nothing in the religion states that you have to force others as you believe. You can try convince them but it is like saying no president has ever been a Christian since adultery isn't outlawed and at least few or none have fought for it to be outlawed.

As to his own beliefs, there tends to be a pretty Liberal amount of interpretation amongst believers. If that is you standard the actual numbers of Catholics in the world is likely pretty low.

ancapailldorcha

hotmail.com wrote: »

If Biden accepts gay marriage, abortion, then he doesn't adhere to Catholic beliefs.

So Biden's victory is an indication that America is getting closer to religion but since he's not going to overturn any of these advances then it isn't? Is this your point?

Christy42

ancapailldorcha wrote: »

So Biden's victory is an indication that America is getting closer to religion but since he's not going to overturn any of these advances then it isn't? Is this your point?

Indeed. He is too religious to be a leader but also not religious enough to be a member of the religion he believes in.

ThewhiteJesus

He's too old and fragile imo but a safe pair of hands for four years i guess,
i would imagine the enemies of America will see him as a soft touch though and could test him early

listermint

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

He's too old and fragile imo but a safe pair of hands for four years i guess,
i would imagine the enemies of America will see him as a soft touch though and could test him early

What like say putting bounties on your soldiers abroad and testing your response

Christy42

Christy42 wrote: »

Indeed. He is too religious to be a leader but also not religious enough to be a member of the religion he believes in.

Schrödinger's Catholic :-)

seamus

Trump departing to a massive gay anthem is especially amusing given how much of his fanbase is purely driven by fragile masculinity and hatred of minorities.

Overheal

ThewhiteJesus wrote: »

He's too old and fragile imo but a safe pair of hands for four years i guess,
i would imagine the enemies of America will see him as a soft touch though and could test him early

Yeah, soft touch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kj1GaX_-E-E

FreudianSlippers

Ok... that's it for me, T***p is en route to Florida and I'm cancelling the rest of my day to go drink champagne and watch CNN.

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ancapailldorcha wrote: »

So Biden's victory is an indication that America is getting closer to religion but since he's not going to overturn any of these advances then it isn't? Is this your point?

I'm pointing out the weirdness of religion in American politics. Biden going to mass on the morning of his inauguration during a pandemic underlines this weirdness. It's a tradition for American presidents to do this, it's almost part of the inauguration process, even though America is supposed to have a separated church and state.

All speeches include god and prayer.

Politicians there are afraid to say they aren't religious for fear of losing votes. It's a mad country.

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seamus wrote: »

Trump departing to a massive gay anthem is especially amusing given how much of his fanbase is purely driven by fragile masculinity and hatred of minorities.

I laughed when I heard Gloria!

briany

seamus wrote: »

Trump departing to a massive gay anthem is especially amusing given how much of his fanbase is purely driven by fragile masculinity and hatred of minorities.

I guess Trump likes the song, but it wouldn't surprise me if he knew little else of it like the song meaning or cultural significance beyond its use in his campaign.

But it's a bizarre little coda. Such a frivolous song to bookend a highly controversial presidency.

Boggles

hotmail.com wrote: »

I'm pointing out the weirdness of religion in American politics. Biden going to mass on the morning of his inauguration during a pandemic underlines this weirdness. It's a tradition for American presidents to do this, it's almost part of the inauguration process, even though America is supposed to have a separated church and state.

All speeches include god and prayer.

Politicians there are afraid to say they aren't religious for fear of losing votes. It's a mad country.

You formed that conclusion based on the fact that Biden went to mass?

Were you in a coma for the past 5 years?

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Boggles wrote: »

You formed that conclusion based on the fact that Biden went to mass?

Were you in a coma for the past 5 years?

I've always thought America was a mad country.