Upgrade toilet flush, DIY job?

Cordell

Bailey Orange Desk wrote: »

Opinions?

Buy a new syphon (~10E) and use the caps. Save the new syphon for when you really need a new one.

The Continental Op

Cordell wrote: »

Buy a new syphon (~10E) and use the caps. Save the new syphon for when you really need a new one.

Where and which one? I don't think the OP's is the same as the one in the first video ?

Alun

The Continental Op wrote: »

Just a thought, is that syphon one that can be dismantled to replace the syphon diaphram?

If so it would make a whole lot of sence to remove the wide body of the syphon and do the repair in the dry on the bench.

I was wondering that too.

The Continental Op

Alun wrote: »

I was wondering that too.

I don't think it is but still a question worth answering.

OP any chance of a better picture of as much of the side of the syphon you can get? - Don't drop your mobile phone in there

Plus what does it say on the top of the syphon? Looks like Elite Maximum Flush? However google doesn't give any useful results.

CoBo55

Cordell wrote: »

Buy a new syphon (~10E) and use the caps. Save the new syphon for when you really need a new one.

I came back on to suggest that. Op, just take the pics you have to your plumbers merchant, that's what I did when I had an old timey toilet like that, they had one on the shelf. Definitely better than glueing something to the side of it.

bo0li5eumx12kp

The Continental Op wrote: »

I don't think it is but still a question worth answering.

OP any chance of a better picture of as much of the side of the syphon you can get? - Don't drop your mobile phone in there

Plus what does it say on the top of the syphon? Looks like Elite Maximum Flush? However google doesn't give any useful results.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Yeah I tried to pull the top off but it's stuck on there pretty good.

I think DIY shops are closed at present?

Just in the 1st and 3rd pics, the top inlet needs to be sealed.
The bottom inlet is sealed but from the inside, as in it's not a conventional plug as demo'd in the vids posted.

It's actually located inside the siphon so to remove it, I don't know how that's done, probably need to remove the entire siphon?

Whatever is the handiest methods to seal the top inlet = solves my problem.

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Like mention, tried duct tape but the air pressure just blew it out.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Hell maybe this "Sugru" putty is my best bet...?

Edit: ordered epoxy putty as suggested, seems well reviewed, 3.50 off aliexpress.

The Continental Op

Thanks for posting the pictures. Sorry they don't help. I can see now that you don't have a syphon that can be dismantled without removing it completely and I can't find one identical anywhere online.

I would use Epoxy putty after drying it all out and sanding the area a little to get a key. You can preshape it before you apply it. I'd then have two small bits of wood cut ready (but could be plastic) that can be used on the hole side to hold the epoxy against the part with the hole and on the other side to stop the fitting twisting around (thats a just in case the fitting isn't screwed in tight).

Whatever I'd use to hold the epoxy in place would be just to keep it there not jammed in too tight so it pushed the epoxy into the hole. Once set you could jam it a bit tighter.

Ten Pin

Whatever is the handiest methods to seal the top inlet = solves my problem.

Look around the house for bottle/container caps that might fit in eg a toothpaste tube cap or the pull up nozzle off a wash up liquid bottle cap or the spout off a hand wash dispenser etc.

Whatever fits closest with a plastic sweet wrapper or similar around it (if necessary) to make a better seal.

bo0li5eumx12kp

Ten Pin wrote: »

Look around the house for bottle/container caps that might fit in eg a toothpaste tube cap or the pull up nozzle off a wash up liquid bottle cap or the spout off a hand wash dispenser etc.

Whatever fits closest with a plastic sweet wrapper or similar around it (if necessary) to make a better seal.

Do you mean, instead of putting the epoxy putty on by itself, use it to seal a bottlecap over the inlet?

This would be more effective?

My only concern is the air pressure might blow the epoxy off, if it bonds sufficiently well to plastic it should be okay.

listermint

Bailey Orange Desk wrote: »

Do you mean, instead of putting the epoxy putty on by itself, use it to seal a bottlecap over the inlet?

This would be more effective?

My only concern is the air pressure might blow the epoxy off, if it bonds sufficiently well to plastic it should be okay.

Stick with the plan, the above options will not work and or might block the syphons movement.

The Continental Op

afaik the air pressure will be pushing the epoxy into the syphon when the toilet is flushed - can anyone change my mind on that I might not be thinking it out correctly?

If thats the case once any epoxy has gone off it can't be pushed into the syphon. The only issue might be getting it to stick.

But if you can find say an old style toothpaste tube top that doesn't go in to far then that or similar item might do it. If necessary use epoxy putty to hold it in place.