Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

FixdePitchmark

There you go.. minister speaking right now on virgin. About families mourning today . In context of the 101.

Complete and utter fake news. Disgraceful.

Malcomex

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

There you go.. minister speaking right now on virgin. About families mourning today . In context of the 101.

Complete and utter fake news. Disgraceful.

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Spanish Eyes

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Well not really. Because deaths will drop to a tolerable level quickly.

We all have to realise death will be part of this for a while . But the numbers will not justify any lockdown.

Well I suppose those who are concerned about transmission will be cautious for a while to come, no matter what is opened up. Many-wont, but some will be. The shock of post Christmas was something else.

FixdePitchmark

Malcomex wrote: »

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Swear 100 % ..watch . Unreal ****..

Spanish Eyes

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

There you go.. minister speaking right now on virgin. About families mourning today . In context of the 101.

Complete and utter fake news. Disgraceful.

Disgusting comment

FixdePitchmark

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Disgusting comment

What you mean.

The media outlets and even the minister. Have implied 100 people died of covid today.

This is not true

SCOOP 64

polesheep wrote: »

I suppose we never had any risings and we're still under British rule?

Not the Irish of today.

Jim_Hodge

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

There you go.. minister speaking right now on virgin. About families mourning today . In context of the 101.

Complete and utter fake news. Disgraceful.

You need to get a grip. Of course those families are grieving today. Do you think grief on losing a loved one lasts a day, a week....?

Give it a rest! We all know what he said and meant. You're trying to twist it for some obscure reason.

Goldengirl

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Yes ..when death number drop. Covid lockdowns are over. Public will not tolerate lockdowns and will take the deaths.

That is the reality.

What reality !
This virus has mutated to be more transmissible,and the SA variant has made many young people very seriously sick wherever it becomes prevalent .
Older vulnerable population vaccinated leaves younger hosts for the virus .
This is why the Spanish Flu is thought to have gone through so many young people and killed them .
The older population had been exposed to an earlier variant called the Russian Flu so had some immunity when the Spanish variant hit .
This is not over until the vast majority of people , young and old , have some immunity , either by vaccination or surviving infection , and the former is preferable because the latter will take a lot longer and has too much risk for individuals involved .
Wishing for something does not make it a reality .

Malcomex

Goldengirl wrote: »

What reality !
This virus has mutated to be more transmissible,and the SA variant has made many young people very seriously sick wherever it becomes prevalent .
Older vulnerable population vaccinated leaves younger hosts for the virus .
This is why the Spanish Flu is thought to have gone through so many young people and killed them .
The older population had been exposed to an earlier variant called the Russian Flu so had some immunity when the Spanish variant hit .
This is not over until the vast majority of people , young and old , have some immunity , either by vaccination or surviving infection , and the former is preferable because the latter will take a lot longer and has too much risk for individuals involved .
Wishing for something does not make it a reality .

Jansen is 100% effective at preventing hospitalization for the SA variant

Bears repeating..

Goldengirl

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

What you mean.

The media outlets and even the minister. Have implied 100 people died of covid today.

This is not true

Do you really not understand about reporting and announcement of deaths at this stage?

Are you sure of what you are saying before you post or are you just trying to wind people up with insensitive and tasteless comments?

Goldengirl

Malcomex wrote: »

Jansen is 100% effective at preventing hospitalization for the SA variant

Bears repeating..

Yes. They have tested it for that , but the efficacy is 57% or thereabouts for this variant , which yes, will work but not as well as others
And the poster I was replying to, if you read back , was insinuating that once vulnerable vaccinated , people will want to lift the restrictions as deaths would be lower even with 5000 cases.
My point is... they won't ,ya need a vaccine !

niallo27

Goldengirl wrote: »

Do you really not understand about reporting and announcement of deaths at this stage?

Are you sure of what you are saying before you post or are you just trying to wind people up with insensitive and tasteless comments?

Hang on, do you actually think 101 people died in the last 24 hours.

Jim_Hodge

niallo27 wrote: »

Hang on, do you actually think 101 people died in the last 24 hours.

I think you quoted the wrong person there.

Goldengirl

niallo27 wrote: »

Hang on, do you actually think 101 people died in the last 24 hours.

Of course not! Do you ? Poster I was replying to implying that that is what is being said ..read the thread before posting will you, Niallo ?

Doctors room ghost

Never ending

niallo27

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

What you mean.

The media outlets and even the minister. Have implied 100 people died of covid today.

This is not true

Goldengirl wrote: »

Do you really not understand about reporting and announcement of deaths at this stage?

Are you sure of what you are saying before you post or are you just trying to wind people up with insensitive and tasteless comments?

Goldengirl wrote: »

Of course not! Do you ? Poster I was replying to implying that that is what is being said ..read the thread before posting will you, Niallo ?

No that is not what the poster said.

niallo27

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Never ending

For some people it won't, just reading tonight, they are terrified of every different variant. I do worry for these people as I think they will find it hard to adapt when this is over.

CIARAN_BOYLE

niallo27 wrote: »

Hang on, do you actually think 101 people died in the last 24 hours.

101 people died because of this ****ing virus.

It doesn't matter if it was in the last 24 hours or not. The reporting system is stupid. That doesn't mean the 101 deaths reported in 24 hours isn't a tragedy.

Sephiroth_dude

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

This is going to happen in about 3 weeks - and it will be a real crisis for government - because deaths and cases will be low - and we will be all locked down for no reason.

The deaths announcement today was a disgrace. As it was to try make things look worse.

Enough with the conspiracy theories, anymore and you'll be thread banned.

Cluedo Monopoly

The key metric is deaths by date-of-death. There is a lag on that data but the graph is shown near the bottom of this link (thanks to seamus for sharing)

https://www.hpsc.ie/a-z/respiratory/coronavirus/novelcoronavirus/surveillance/epidemiologyofcovid-19inirelandweeklyreports/

It is currently showing a peak on 18-Jan but we wont really know until Week 4 data comes out tomorrow or Thursday.

Van.Bosch

niallo27 wrote: »

Hang on, do you actually think 101 people died in the last 24 hours.

The thing with the reporting is that there probably was a day with 101deaths though, we just don’t know when.

Happydays2020

Van.Bosch wrote: »

The thing with the reporting is that there probably was a day with 101deaths though, we just don’t know when.

It does demonstrate why we need to use 7 day averages etc. Better than saying that the ratio of deaths to cases today was 1:8 which is pretty scary. At the same time every life is valuable and they need to be announced.

bb1234567

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

There you go.. minister speaking right now on virgin. About families mourning today . In context of the 101.

Complete and utter fake news. Disgraceful.

I don't get you. We all know by now in the pandemic a death notification doesn't mean the person died literally on that day. If anyone doesn't know that by now it's on them , it's been made very clear. I don't understand what your deal is anyway, all these people died in the recent large wave the country experienced. What iota of a difference does it make that a slighly higher number of families happened to notify the deaths on this day.

amandstu

When I look at the global figures for the daily 7 day moving average for infections it is showing a fairly steep decline over the past 3 weeks.

Can we read anything into that?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Ficheall

amandstu wrote: »

When I look at the global figures for the daily 7 day moving average for infections it is showing a fairly steep decline over the past 3 weeks.

Can we read anything into that?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Could be vaccines kicking in, could be some countries' calming down after Christmas stupidity.
It's surprising that despite the apparent effectiveness of their vaccine, Israel cases at 55% vaccinated do not seem to be displaying the same decline as other countries. A little more time will give a better indicator, I suppose.


Also I think there was something about the WHO reclassifying how to define a case, but it was a little unclear what the story was there.

Turtwig

Ficheall wrote: »

Also I think there was something about the WHO reclassifying how to define a case, but it was a little unclear what the story was there.

Never happened. A bunch of people in January saw an updated WHO labatory guidance document in January and completely misunderstood it. Or worse, deliberately distorted it to push their own agenda. Sadly, I think many instances of it in social media were the latter.

Ficheall

Ficheall wrote: »

Could be vaccines kicking in, could be some countries' calming down after Christmas stupidity.
It's surprising that despite the apparent effectiveness of their vaccine, Israel cases at 55% vaccinated do not seem to be displaying the same decline as other countries. A little more time will give a better indicator, I suppose.


Also I think there was something about the WHO reclassifying how to define a case, but it was a little unclear what the story was there.

Orthodox jews are both resistant to adhering to restrictions and to receiving vaccines, so the virus is rampant in that community.

Also, Israel Arabs who make up a significant minority in the country are also suspicious of anything government mandated and have fairly low vaccine uptake

Jim_Hodge

niallo27 wrote: »

No that is not what the poster said.

It's precisely what the poster said.

Start at the beginning of the exchange. :rolleyes:

bennyl10

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

This is going to happen in about 3 weeks - and it will be a real crisis for government - because deaths and cases will be low - and we will be all locked down for no reason.

The deaths announcement today was a disgrace. As it was to try make things look worse.

so about a week before level 5 is due to end? so exactly what we wanted to achieve with the level 5 process a nd ending it at the right time?

The deaths are when they are reported. They've been announced like this at every single portion of the pandemic and they clarify when people have died, month wise.