Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Atlantic Dawn

Why don't they announce each day with the death and new case figures how many people have been vaccinated that day? Mix some good news with the bad.

harr

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why don't they announce each day with the death and new case figures how many people have been vaccinated that day? Mix some good news with the bad.

Because that would probably show them them up in regards to the trickle of vaccines they are giving.

Ficheall

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why don't they announce each day with the death and new case figures how many people have been vaccinated that day? Mix some good news with the bad.

There's no guarantee the vaccinated number would be perceived as good news.

frozen3

bb1234567 wrote: »

These blanket statements are always a bit oversimplied. It's a spectrum. It's not like there's no risk for a 64 year old just because they're not that in 'that' age group. The IFR in early 60's is about 1%. Would you not be careful to try and avoid contracting COVID if you were 60?Because I would certainly be taking precautions not to get it if I was late 50's or early 60's. And that's just mortality, not to mention hospitalisation rate.

In the UK , about 100,000 people under 55 have been hospitalised so far, so it's not no risk for the late middle aged groups, even though they are not 'old'. The only age group in Europe that has not seen major increase in mortality rates since March, is under 45, death rate in children and young adults is actually below average since then. All other age groups have seen significant increase however.

In 1918

20's was middle age, 40 was old

Life expectancy was around 50

is_that_so

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why don't they announce each day with the death and new case figures how many people have been vaccinated that day? Mix some good news with the bad.

This is HPSC data via DoH. Vaccinations are HSE data and, of course Stephen Donnelly on Twitter! HSE briefing on Thursdays at 2.

KrustyUCC

Galwayhurl wrote: »

Breaking

94 additional deaths confirmed.

1,013 new cases.


47 of these deaths occurred in February, 44 occurred in January, 2 in December and 1 in November.

The median age of those who died is 82 years and the age range is 36-100 years.


Cases: 337 in Dublin, 96 in Galway, 65 in Cork, 60 in Kildare, 48 in Louth.

RIP to those who passed away

Decent case number

03/02/2021 1013
02/02/2021 879
01/02/2021 1062

Total 2,954

27/01/2021 1335
26/01/2021 928
25/01/2021 1372

Total 3,635

Cases reduction so far 681 for the same three days
*There is a backlog building though so might affect the rest of the week

CIARAN_BOYLE

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Why don't they announce each day with the death and new case figures how many people have been vaccinated that day? Mix some good news with the bad.

They didn't set up a system to do it.

Lollipop95 wrote: »

The cases are very slow in going down

Personally I'm delighted by how fast the cases are going down. I'm thrilled. All the experts were saying it was going to be slower.

They were rediculously high. The hight of the peak was hidden by the suspension of testing of close contacts. The decline in case numbers is being slowed by the resumption of testing.

hynesie08

harr wrote: »

Because that would probably show them them up in regards to the trickle of vaccines they are giving.

200000 out of 207000 received is a trickle?

Happydays2020

RIP to those who passed away. It really brings things home how quick we can lose control of this and the effects.

However, positive that the case numbers are keeping their downward trajectory. We cannot control what already happened but we can control new cases.

frozen3

Lollipop95 wrote: »

The cases are very slow in going down

30% less than last week and they are testing close contacts again

Probably gonna be a slow drop alright

Be suprised if less than 200-300 in a months time

Drumpot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldFRt-i3QzY

Interesting information:

- mouthwash potentially helpful at reducing viral load spread - apparently Vietnam saw growth use of over 75% of mouthwash which might of significantly helped their fight agaisnt COVID. Apparently the doctors also bring patients to roof for air and sun (vit d) and leave windows open in hospitals. They have a really low death rate- so why hasn’t any western countries tried any of these to reduce our deaths?

- existing medication that people can take at home and is readily available may reduce deaths by up to 50% and severity of illness by over 20%

- Vit D - small study suggesting VIT d helps reduce severity of illness in elder population. Ah but sure hasn’t western counties decided they aren’t sure aboit it so don’t bother their ass investigating one of the simplest , cheapest, handiest ways of reducing COVID severity. It’s criminal at this stage that we keep ignoring the potential benefits of this. No money to be made by big pharmaceutical and governments prob just scared that people will interpret “take VIT D to help possibly reduce severity” as “VIT D is a cure, go wild”.

Western countries appear to suffer badly from Hubris (refusal to adopt what successful countries are doing) and conflict of interest (big pharma and vested interest groups influencing policies). Maybe we wouldn’t need lockdowns if we had less severe symptoms, but no let’s open and close instead and not bother exploring any other mitigation strategies or even monitor VIT D connection with severe cases.

Jim_Hodge

frozen3 wrote: »

In 1918

20's was middle age, 40 was old

Life expectancy was around 50

You keep citing those meaningless life expectancy at birth figures.

Arduach

frozen3 wrote: »

In 1918

20's was middle age, 40 was old

Life expectancy was around 50

Not at all! Life expectancy was lower due to deaths at childbirth and infancy but 40 wasn't old!!

My great great grandfather lived to 89. 1799-1888. He married at 50 and had 7 children. His wife died at 84. This was common post Famine. If you look at any genealogical records you'll find scores of people in every district in their 80s and 90s and even 100s.

is_that_so

Drumpot wrote: »

- existing medication that people can take at home and is readily available may reduce deaths by up to 50% and severity of illness by over 20%

Colchicine data is disapppointing

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/christopher-labos-data-dont-justify-high-hopes-for-colchicine

Drumpot

is_that_so wrote: »

Colchicine data is disapppointing

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/columnists/christopher-labos-data-dont-justify-high-hopes-for-colchicine

That’s a shame but there is still a lot of other strategies being ignored. :(as

DraftDodger

Soul destroying numbers yet again.

Gael23

frozen3 wrote: »

30% less than last week and they are testing close contacts again

Probably gonna be a slow drop alright

Be suprised if less than 200-300 in a months time

Level 5 until Easter then?

is_that_so

Gael23 wrote: »

Level 5 until Easter then?

Maybe not. The government do have half an eye on a Level 4 variant in March.

DOCARCH

is_that_so wrote: »

Level 4 variant....

Hope the vaccines work on that!

Akabusi

DraftDodger wrote: »

Soul destroying numbers yet again.

Sad that it is, expect high numbers of deaths to continue for another 7 - 10 days. Hopefully then they will greatly reduce and we won't have another big spike of cases and the inevitable deaths that come with that. RIP to all.

cannotlogin

DraftDodger wrote: »

Soul destroying numbers yet again.

Yes but way down on the last 3 Wednesday's. Weekly positive cases are down to 20% of peak numbers.

Deaths will always lag behind.

It's nowhere as quickly as we would like but still continuing the right direction, albeit slowly.

KrustyUCC

is_that_so wrote: »

Maybe not. The government do have half an eye on a Level 4 variant in March.

Maybe construction back but Martins heavily hinted at no non essential retail being back so SFA goina change until after Easter unfortunately

DraftDodger

DraftDodger wrote: »

Soul destroying numbers yet again.

Can we have some degree of accuracy and perspective here.

Individual daily case numbers do not matter, per se.

What does matter is the 7-day rolling average - and that is declining precipitously over the past weeks.

There is no need for all this doom and gloom; the figures are what you would expect them to be.

When cases rise exponentially, they also fall exponentially - and the rate you see may seem slow, but from a long-term vantage point, the figures are very favorable indeed.

is_that_so

DOCARCH wrote: »

Hope the vaccines work on that!

Well, "Living with COVID" has been described as a living document so mutations are bound to happen!

NeuralNetwork

Drumpot wrote: »

- Apparently the doctors also bring patients to roof for air and sun (vit d) and leave windows open in hospitals.

Useful except that Vietnam is a tropical country where the average annual temperature is 21 to 23 °C

Ireland is temperate oceanic, with an average annual temperature of 9.7ºC

Parts of Europe & North America have temperatures that this time of year could cause hypothermia and even frostbite.

So, yeah just put the patients here on the roof they'll be grand and open absolutely all the windows and let that Irish or upstate New York tropical air blow through.

If you just threw open all the windows, you'd have people getting hypothermia here and if you tried that in somewhere colder you'd have equipment freezing.

Some of these things just are not practical in different parts of the world.

We could definitely do with more focus on HVAC and air circulation, but comparisons to hot, tropical climates is a bit pointless.

Stateofyou

Deleted User wrote: »

Can we have some degree of accuracy and perspective here.

Individual daily case numbers do not matter, per se.

What does matter is the 7-day rolling average - and that is declining precipitously over the past weeks.

There is no need for all this doom and gloom; the figures are what you would expect them to be.

When cases rise exponentially, they also fall exponentially - and the rate you see may seem slow, but from a long-term vantage point, the figures are very favorable indeed.

They also seem to be plateauing. I'm not sure I'm right on that; but I think I have read articles to that effect and saying that Holohan and MM have referred to that as well. Am I wrong? Absolutely open to correction here.

is_that_so

20,000 is a lot, I wonder what our numbers might be?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/20-000-people-per-day-failing-to-self-isolate-after-being-contacted-by-nhs-test/

SCOOP 64

Deleted User wrote: »

Can we have some degree of accuracy and perspective here.

Individual daily case numbers do not matter, per se.

What does matter is the 7-day rolling average - and that is declining precipitously over the past weeks.

There is no need for all this doom and gloom; the figures are what you would expect them to be.

When cases rise exponentially, they also fall exponentially - and the rate you see may seem slow, but from a long-term vantage point, the figures are very favorable indeed.

Op could be also be referring to high number of deaths today.

NeuralNetwork

is_that_so wrote: »

20,000 is a lot, I wonder what our numbers might be?

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/20-000-people-per-day-failing-to-self-isolate-after-being-contacted-by-nhs-test/

Population here is roughly 13.5 times smaller. So perhaps 1481? Sounds about right to me.

SCOOP 64

SCOOP 64 wrote: »

Op could be also be referring to high number of deaths today.

That would be inaccurate, too - because the deaths did not happen over the past 24-hours.

Some were in February, others in January, and even some from November.