Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Goldengirl

is_that_so wrote: »

Oh they've been appalling in the questions they ask, so much so that the extremely rare good question make you sit up.

Thinka gang of us should lobby for press passes..."
hi , is- that- so ,Boards.ie , can you tell me why you consistently have a discrepancy in positive tests vs case numbers ?":D

stephenjmcd

Arghus wrote: »

To be honest I am a little bit worried, at some level, that this potential plateau that was flagged the last day is being attributed to the "weekend effect" which every long term reader of the thread has known about for months.

Is it actually a possibility that they're only noticing this now? I kinda like to think they're a bit more clued in than the likes of us!

Yeah I did find his later comment a little odd that the weekend effect only returned in the last few weeks. Its been quite prominent throughout.

As you say many of us who've been looking at numbers for months have seen it throughout

Arghus

pjohnson wrote: »

There does need to be some sort of screening to keep the likes of her out. Wasting everyones time.

She asked a question at one of the pressers last week about schools, and Holohan broke everything down into a granular level of detail in his response - and then she just asked the exact same question again, as if he'd not answered it, straight away afterwards. You could tell he just didn't get what was her deal at that point: it was quite clear that she actually listening. It was the same today.

And she consistently misprounces his name. I think she's been sent in there with a brief to low-key rise him.

Paul Cullen consistently asks pointed questions of them, even passive aggressive questions at times, but they are relevant and he's not just fishing for a juicy quote.

polesheep

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

It's nothing to do with outliers, it's to do with people automatically throwing in the old underlying conditions line to minimise the relevance of any death.

That's fine, but what of my question.

And somebody should tell those who rush to post about what they know are statistical outliers such as healthy 33 year old dying from Covid just to give a false impression. That is equally disingenuous, is it not?

Goldengirl

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah I did find his later comment a little odd that the weekend effect only returned in the last few weeks. Its been quite prominent throughout.

As you say many of us who've been looking at numbers for months have seen it throughout

Just looking for something positive to say , because he said in answer to George Lee that they had noticed it before but it had returned in the last 3 weeks ?

Russman

Whatever about the rights or wrongs of it, the NPHET briefing on covid was absolutely not the time or place to be asking about the cervical check issue. That journo is a disgrace.

Arghus

Zara got her wedding question in as well.

First of the year I think.

spookwoman

CIARAN_BOYLE

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yeah I did find his later comment a little odd that the weekend effect only returned in the last few weeks. Its been quite prominent throughout.

As you say many of us who've been looking at numbers for months have seen it throughout

I believe that the weekend effect was much smaller than it is at the moment since October.

This is because the there is a bigger gap between swabs at weekend now.

Deeper Blue

Whoever screens the journalists for those briefings should be sacked, remember that absolute headbanger that managed to get in last year?

pjohnson

El Sueño wrote: »

Whoever screens the journalists for those briefings should be sacked, remember that absolute headbanger that managed to get in last year?

The Burke woman. Wasn't even a journalist.

Happydays2020

Are there any positives today?

Happydays2020

Given where we were 2 and 4 weeks back this is relatively positive

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

namloc1980

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Are there any positives today?

Around 1,300 positives.

Goldengirl

pjohnson wrote: »

The Burke woman. Wasn't even a journalist.

Don't remember that , what was she on about?

Goldengirl

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Are there any positives today?

Yes . Millions are adhering to the guidelines,according to Ronan Glynn , and Phillip Nolan said that we aren't plateauing we are declining 7 to 8% every day ..

sonofenoch

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Are there any positives today?

I don't have covid, I'm positive :rolleyes:

embraer170

I am probably not fully up to pace with the COVID travel developments in Ireland.

If arriving from a European yellow/green zone (Northern Norway, Greece), does one still face mandatory home quarantine. Does having a test alleviate that?

Thanks!

Jim_Hodge

polesheep wrote: »

That's fine, but what of my question.

And somebody should tell those who rush to post about what they know are statistical outliers such as healthy 33 year old dying from Covid just to give a false impression. That is equally disingenuous, is it not?

You can keep this up all night if you wish. I posted about a 59 year old.

Face facts, people with otherwise long lives ahead have died. Prattle about statistical outliers all you like, as I don't care. A death of a lived one is still death . A tragedy for a family is still a tragedy no matter how some people disingenuously try to downplay it.

I'm ignoring any further attempts to sweep deaths under the carpet because they don't fit your agenda.

Out. #Ignore.

Normal One

Arghus wrote: »

Zara got her wedding question in as well.

First of the year I think.

She must be desperate to get that ring on her, bless her.

Arghus

Goldengirl wrote: »

Don't remember that , what was she on about?

She was on about a story that had been in the papers at the time of a teenager in Mayo that had supposedly died of Covid and was allegedly moved into a Covid ward in a hospital, despite having previously tested negative - and then she had picked up Covid in there and died, well that was the story that was repeated in the media.

A lot of it was based on an interview with a relative of the deceased girl that contained a lot of claims that turned out to not be true and I think, someone can correct me, that the girl's death was eventually denotified in the end.

So there was a lot of misinformation going around at the time and at the next presser this "journalist" Jemina Burke appeared, from the "Western Press" - which doesn't exist

She wanted to know what could Tony say about this, what a disgrace etc, why are these accusations - which have since proved to be false - out in the media etc, etc.

Tony did his best: said he couldn't comment on individual cases except from expressing sympathy, wasn’t aware of the individual facts of the case, the "facts" that she outlined didn't reflect ideas of best practice generally.

She got more emotional, demanding answers. Tony explained again, she got even more emotional. Eventually she started talking over his explanations and wouldn't let him talk - this went on for ages. The more he tried to explain, the worse she got, eventually she was ranting and raving with no input from anyone else for a good five minutes or so at the end. You could even hear her going after they took the mic away. I think she was escorted from the room in the end. It was mental.

She's a member of a family who are fans of literal interpretations of the Bible and litigation. The poor fckers are always on the receiving end of discrimination that requires urgent media attention.

Goldengirl

Arghus wrote: »

She was on about a story that had been in the papers at the time of a teenager in Mayo that had supposedly died of Covid and was allegedly moved into a Covid ward in a hospital, despite having previously tested negative - and then she had picked up Covid in there and died, well that was the story that was repeated in the media.

A lot of it was based on an interview with a relative of the deceased girl that contained a lot of claims that turned out to not be true and I think, someone can correct me, that the girl's death was eventually denotified in the end.

So there was a lot of misinformation going around at the time and at the next presser this "journalist" Jemina Burke appeared, from the "Western Press" - which doesn't exist

She wanted to know what could Tony say about this, what a disgrace etc, why are these accusations - which have since proved to be false - out in the media etc, etc.

Tony did his best: said he couldn't comment on individual cases except from expressing sympathy, wasn’t aware of the individual facts of the case, the "facts" that she outlined didn't reflect ideas of best practice generally.

She got more emotional, demanding answers. Tony explained again, she got even more emotional. Eventually she started talking over his explanations and wouldn't let him talk - this went on for ages. The more he tried to explain, the worse she got, eventually she was ranting and raving with no input from anyone else for a good five minutes or so at the end. You could even hear her going after they took the mic away. I think she was escorted from the room in the end. It was mental.

She's a member of a family who are fans of literal interpretations of the Bible and litigation. The poor fckers are always on the receiving end of discrimination that requires urgent media attention.

Thanks Arghus. Must have been out of the country for that one.... but no ,wait....

polesheep

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You can keep this up all night if you wish. I posted about a 58 year old.

Face facts, people with otherwise long lives ahead have died. Prattle about statistical outliers all you like, as I don't care. A death of a lived one is still death . A tragedy for a family is still a tragedy no matter how some people disingenuously try to downplay it.

I'm ignoring any further attempts to sweep deaths under the carpet because they don't fit your agenda.

Out. #Ignore.

You responded to harr's post regarding the 33 year old. I can repost it if you like. You don't want to answer my question, that's ok, that's your prerogative.

As for your jibe about sweeping deaths under the carpet, I have never attempted to do so nor would I. But nice deflection.

blowitupref

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Are there any positives today?

Nolan and Holohan have made a u-turn on the idea of telling the media that case numbers was plateauing. Journalists probably won't give that news as much air time..

Polar101

blowitupref wrote: »

Nolan and Holohan have made a u-turn on the idea of telling the media that case numbers was plateauing. Journalists probably won't give that news as much air time..

Or will they?

On RTE
"Strong decline in Covid rates across all ages - Nolan"

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0204/1195121-coronavirus-ireland/

Happydays2020

Polar101 wrote: »

Or will they?

On RTE
"Strong decline in Covid rates across all ages - Nolan"

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/0204/1195121-coronavirus-ireland/

An intern was running the website this evening (I am not saying there was a retirement do). Let’s see if said intern will be back tomorrow with that kind of behaviour.

political analyst

Why don't governments distribute Vitamin D supplements instead of ordering lockdowns?

political analyst

political analyst wrote: »

Why don't governments distribute Vitamin D supplements instead of ordering lockdowns?

This sounds like a tinder opener

UrbanFret

political analyst wrote: »

Why don't governments distribute Vitamin D supplements instead of ordering lockdowns?

Because the whingers would be looking for a payment to take them.

deise08

https://mobile.twitter.com/charliebird49/status/1357347199332405253

Charlie Bird giving out about the journalists questions.