Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Plumbthedepths

latency89 wrote: »

Yeah the Aussie's are in real poverty over there and dieing in the streets :rolleyes:

Roll your eyes all you wish, you are clearly clueless to what a closed economy means to an island such as ourselves with few natural resources.
This thread has been infected with some serious nonsense today.
Degree in Biology but can't spell 'dying'. Hmmm.....

JoChervil

Richard Hillman wrote: »

This is the hurdle that most countries are going to face. You'll get to a certain percentage of the population and then you'll get to the people who are resistant. WTF do you do then?

No free country is going to inoculate 100%. I reckon 70-80% if you are lucky.


This is from a month ago

https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/britons-most-likely-take-covid-vaccine-143029751.html

Look at the numbers. Poland 28% will take the vaccine, France 39%, Germany 51%. Then look at even the most pro vaccine, Italy 64%, Spain 66%.

You do wonder what the great masterplan is from Governments if they think they won't open up societies again until 60-70-80% of the population will get vaccinated because it ain't going to happen.

Not true. In Poland 27,3% will not take the vaccine. And it is an old research. Now there are much more people willing to take it. Also it differ in accordance with age. Older people are more willing to take it.

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-1124-9

political analyst

Our government can't continue borrowing indefinitely to fund support of businesses that are closed because of the lockdown.

The state of Victoria has just gone into a snap 5-day lockdown (The tide turned in favour of Daniel Andrews after the 6-week lockdown brought about by the security failure at a quarantine hotel) but Ireland is in a much worse situation because of the amount of money it has to pay back to the Troika. So why is the European Central Bank letting our government borrow so much, even during a pandemic?!

latency89

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Roll your eyes all you wish, you are clearly clueless to what a closed economy means to an island such as ourselves with few natural resources.
This thread has been infected with some serious nonsense today.
Degree in Biology but can't spell 'dying'. Hmmm.....

Germany are starting to bring it in

Joining up with Czech & Austria, whether you like it or not it's coming and if EU countries lead we will follow as we always do.

caveat emptor

political analyst wrote: »

Our government can't continue borrowing indefinitely to fund support of businesses that are closed because of the lockdown.

The state of Victoria has just gone into a snap 5-day lockdown (The tide turned in favour of Daniel Andrews after the 6-week lockdown brought about by the security failure at a quarantine hotel) but Ireland is in a much worse situation because of the amount of money it has to pay back to the Troika. So why is the European Central Bank letting our government borrow so much, even during a pandemic?!

Really? People should tell the ECB to stop printing money and buying our bonds at Zero percent so, it might be a bad investment ......🤔


https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1359156606039171073?s=20

Plumbthedepths

latency89 wrote: »

Germany are starting to bring it in

Joining up with Czech & Austria, whether you like it or not it's coming and if EU countries lead we will follow as we always do.

So the strongest European economy is going to enter into a closed economy arrangement with just two other countries. One of which that doesn't use the Euro as it's currency lol
Funny Friday.
Bye bye.

jhegarty

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

We don't have hotel quarantine set up yet so what is the point of the list.

Multiple people getting stopped with dental appointments in Lanzarote avoiding fines..

It's all so badly thought out and pointless. How is a foreign dentist essential when kids can't go to school.

That's too much effort. Just pick a grave to visit in Lanzarote.

stephenjmcd

latency89 wrote: »

I think closed economy is better, take away those risks.

We're going miles off topic but you realise the definition of a closed economy is one that doesn't trade & is self sufficient ??

Yet your suggesting that there's EU countries such as Germany that are going to be practicing as closed economies.

For someone who claims to work in supply chain you haven't a clue what a closed economy is

fits

stephenjmcd wrote: »

986 positive swabs from 18,841 - 5.23%

125 more than yesterday from 1634 additional tests

That’s a little disappointing. Was hoping to see lower numbers than that this week

CalamariFritti

caveat emptor wrote: »

Really? People should tell the ECB to stop printing money and buying our bonds at Zero percent so, it might be a bad investment ......🤔


https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1359156606039171073?s=20

What could possibly go wrong.

latency89

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We're going miles off topic but you realise the definition of a closed economy is one that doesn't trade & is self sufficient ??

Yet your suggesting that there's EU countries such as Germany practicing as closed economies.

For someone who claims to work in supply chain you haven't a clue what a closed economy is

I believe they will partner up and go that route yes.

Like some pacific countries are doing, closed economy is better than no economy

hotmail.com

Is it true we'll be the longest country in Europe living in this type of lockdown?

Plumbthedepths

stephenjmcd wrote: »

We're going miles off topic but you realise the definition of a closed economy is one that doesn't trade & is self sufficient ??

Yet your suggesting that there's EU countries such as Germany that are going to be practicing as closed economies.

For someone who claims to work in supply chain you haven't a clue what a closed economy is

A Supermarket shelf stacker works in the supply chain tbh. Important work too and don't get any recognition.

accensi0n

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is it true we'll be the longest country in Europe living in this type of lockdown?

There's a bunch of countries longer than Ireland in Europe.

caveat emptor

latency89 wrote: »

I believe they will partner up and go that route yes.

Like some pacific countries are doing, closed economy is better than no economy

You've been led down a merry path. Using LoLo instead of RoRo is not a closed economy.

Strawman argument. Irelands economy would be 100% open and trade would flow with some adjustments as it always has.
This is the equivalent of when you say "hotel mandatory quarantine" they say "detention centre".

econostrum.info What are the key advantages of the LoLo system in comparison to Ro-Ro?

Julio Martínez Alarcón: According to the comparative study of operating systems that I coordinated (1), the advantages of the LoLo method are both economic and ecological. Overall, it is generally a less expensive system, but only if it is included in a logistics chain that integrates rail transport and concerns high-volume cargo. It is a more sustainable transport method than Ro-Ro, especially as it is combined with rail transport. Limited CO2 emissions are therefore guaranteed. The LoLo system also offers a higher load capacity and promotes rail freight development policies.

For high value perishables use this......rolo? after all yolo. ��

brickster69

caveat emptor wrote: »

Really? People should tell the ECB to stop printing money and buying our bonds at Zero percent so, it might be a bad investment ......🤔


https://twitter.com/Schuldensuehner/status/1359156606039171073?s=20

They can't do that because it would collapse. Carry on nothing to see here. :eek:

Jinglejangle69

fits wrote: »

That’s a little disappointing. Was hoping to see lower numbers than that this week

Why are the numbers hovering around 1000 for weeks?

Seems like some have had enough of it all.

hotmail.com

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is it true we'll be the longest country in Europe living in this type of lockdown?

There's no doubt about that. :mad:

CIARAN_BOYLE

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Why are the numbers hovering around 1000 for weeks?

Seems like some have had enough of it all.

Variations and the resumption of testing of mass testing of close contacts and at risk people's.

The vaerage is still falling though week on week despite these increases in testing.

BlondeBomb

Any reason why the gov hub page has constantly been showing total positive rate 6.5% the past week?

BTownB

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is it true we'll be the longest country in Europe living in this type of lockdown?

By far and away. No other EU country comes close.

IrishStuff09

BlondeBomb wrote: »

Any reason why the gov hub page has constantly been showing total positive rate 6.5% the past week?

I believe that is the positive rate on all tests conducted since March 2020, so naturally it moves quite slow

TonyMaloney

BTownB wrote: »

By far and away. No other EU country comes close.

There are several euro countries that have been in lockdown for quite a bit longer than us. Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands to name some of them.

All of these countries locked down prior to Christmas.

So you're dead wrong.

Turtwig

BTownB wrote: »

By far and away. No other EU country comes close.

Not really an apt comparison. Comparing Ireland as a country to other countries is a bit like comparing a parish to a county and then pointing out how things were different between the parish and each county.

Ficheall

hotmail.com wrote: »

Is it true we'll be the longest country in Europe living in this type of lockdown?

I can barely work out which restrictions are being enforced here, never mind what ones might or might not be enforced anywhere else..

lawred2

Turtwig wrote: »

Not really an apt comparison. Comparing Ireland as a country to other countries is a bit like comparing a parish to a county and then pointing out how things were different between the parish and each county.

that's nonsense

Plumbthedepths

Ficheall wrote: »

I can barely work out which restrictions are being enforced here, never mind what ones might or might not be enforced anywhere else..

Non essential retail closed, majority of hospitality closed. People have been fined for being 5km from their residence without reasonable excuse.
These are just off the top of my head.

ZX7R

TonyMaloney wrote: »

There are several euro countries that have been in lockdown for quite a bit longer than us. Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Netherlands to name some of them.

All of these countries locked down prior to Christmas.

So you're dead wrong.

Depends on how you view what a lockdown is these countries.
Even at there peak of infection over Christmas they still had more of there economy open than Ireland have now .
To be honest I don't think you realise how much is actually open in other eu countries compared to Ireland.

shamco

Loads of teenagers playing football in the AUl all weather pitches in Lucan just now

is_that_so

shamco wrote: »

Loads of teenagers playing football in the AUl all weather pitches in Lucan just now

Good for their immune systems!