Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

RugbyLad11

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

The current lockdown started in October, and September for Dublin. The week or two break we had for Christmas is meaningless.

If you're dating girl for a few months and then you have a short break for 1 week, do you reset the counter back to zero?

You better be prepared for the consequences if you catch the clap during that week of freedom though

TonyMaloney

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

The current lockdown started in October, and September for Dublin. The week or two break we had for Christmas is meaningless.

If you're dating girl for a few months and then you have a short break for 1 week, do you reset the counter back to zero?

No, but if we come out of lockdown due to having the lowest incidence rate in Europe - make a complete balls of it - and end up going into another harsher lockdown... Well I consider them two distinct lockdowns.

If you're released from prison, commit another crime, and get sent to prison again would you consider it only one stint?

Nope

RugbyLad11

TonyMaloney wrote: »

No, but if we come out of lockdown due to having the lowest incidence rate in Europe - make a complete balls of it - and end up going into another harsher lockdown... Well I consider them two distinct lockdowns.

If you're released from prison, commit another crime, and get sent to prison again would you consider it only one stint?

Nope

Look at it whatever you want. But at the end of the day we've been locked down since September/October, minus the short break at Christmas.

Kunta Kinte

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Each and everyone of those are patriots idiots

FYP

caveat emptor

Deleted User wrote: »

You better be prepared for the consequences if you catch the clap during that week of freedom though

Don't be such a doom monger raind. Due to the strictest Lockdown in the world ever there were only 2066 cases of Gonorrhoea (the clap) in 2020. That's down 27% vs 2019 (2812)

It's not all bad news. You've less chance of the clap this year which is great news. :pac:

TonyMaloney

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Look at it whatever you want. But at the end of the day we've been locked down since September/October, minus the short break at Christmas.

I'll look at it as it actually was.

You can look at it any way you want to. Knock yourself out

TonyMaloney

caveat emptor wrote: »

Don't be such a doom monger raind. Due to the strictest Lockdown in the world ever there were only 2066 cases of Gonorrhoea (the clap) in 2020. That's down 27% vs 2019 (2812)

It's not all bad news. You've less chance of the clap this year which is great news. :pac:

That's an outrageous number. Yuck. We should have gone into lockdown years ago.

Compared to mainland Europe, Ireland has practically been in lockdown since last March.

Even during summer, Ireland had much more restrictions compared to the UK and the continent.

branie2

May the 23 people who died rest in peace

TonyMaloney

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Compared to mainland Europe, Ireland has practically been in lockdown since last March.

Even during summer, Ireland had much more restrictions compared to the UK and the continent.

Yeah, the harshest restrictions in Europe amounted to "wet pubs" not being open.

It all seems so quaint from where we are now

caveat emptor

TonyMaloney wrote: »

That's an outrageous number. Yuck. We should have gone into lockdown years ago.

This can only be a good news story and an unintended upside of the public health measures.

It looks as though STDs are really in retreat due to covid. The only winner unfortunately is the covid really. STDs could be on the way out if lockdown continues on too long.

TonyMaloney

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Yeah, the harshest restrictions in Europe amounted to "wet pubs" not being open.

It all seems so quaint from where we are now

Personally, I think Holohan and Co. are engaged in antiviral extremism.

By all means, be vigilant and sensible, but there comes a point when this tips over into the realm of antiviral extremism. Where every action is pointed toward one single goal - namely, reduction of viral transmission.

European countries demonstrated last summer that you can ease restrictions, be reasonably responsible, and get on with things. Ireland proved that even with summer restrictions, you can still end up with a winter wave - often far worse.

Antiviral extremism must be countered head on.

We cannot let ourselves enter Summer 2021 under Level 5 or Level-5-light restrictions.

Enough is enough.

TonyMaloney

caveat emptor wrote: »

This can only be a good news story and an unintended upside of the public health measures.

It looks as though STDs are really in retreat due to covid. The only winner unfortunately is the covid really. STDs could be on the way out if lockdown continues on too long.

I thought we were shot of dengue fever a long time ago.

I've never been more fervently in favour of harsh lockdowns.
We can do it lads!

Clap for the clap!

niallo27

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Yeah, the harshest restrictions in Europe amounted to "wet pubs" not being open.

It all seems so quaint from where we are now

Do you really think that, do you not remember last summer when Europe was socialising and we were still hoping woodies would open so we could get a Tin of paint.

TonyMaloney

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Personally, I think Holohan and Co. are engaged in antiviral extremism.

By all means, be vigilant and sensible, but there comes a point when this tips over into the realm of antiviral extremism. Where every action is pointed toward one single goal - namely, reduction of viral transmission.

European countries demonstrated last summer that you can ease restrictions, be reasonably responsible, and get on with things. Ireland proved that even with summer restrictions, you can still end up with a winter wave - often far worse.

Antiviral extremism must be countered head on.

We cannot let ourselves enter Summer 2021 under Level 5 or Level-5-light restrictions.

Enough is enough.

Look, I'll give you another chance. Rewrite this again, but instead of using the phrase "Antiviral extremism", use literally anything else instead because that would be better.

I promise I'll give it another go, but at the moment I keep snorting every time I read Antiviral extremism

TonyMaloney

niallo27 wrote: »

Do you really think that, do you not remember last summer when Europe was socialising and we were still hoping woodies would open so we could get a Tin of paint.

I'm pretty sure woodies opened in June, Niall.

I hope you weren't sitting there all summer, idle, without any paint and completely misinformed.

iamwhoiam

They way I see it is the longer and harsher the restrictions the more people will burst forth and go mad once liftedl. If this goes on until April people will be so eager to meet it will lead to disaster

They need to to this in a measured fashion so that people are not wound up in tension
Drop the 5 km nonsense and all own county travel or at least 20 kms

First click and collect , then retail that are not in shopping centres and have an on street door . Then cafes with outdoor seating .
Allow people meet outdoors in parks etc
Then allow meet in gardens . Allow two families or friends to form a bubble and meet up .
Then restaurants with on street doors and not in shopping centres .
Slowely , steadily giving people a little at a time so we can look forward and stay careful

suicide_circus

I think we certainly need to readjust our relationship with risk

Plumbthedepths

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They way I see it is the longer and harsher the restrictions the more people will burst forth and go mad once liftedl. If this goes on until April people will be so eager to meet it will lead to disaster

They need to to this in a measured fashion so that people are not wound up in tension
Drop the 5 km nonsense and all own county travel or at least 20 kms

First click and collect , then retail that are not in shopping centres and have an on street door . Then cafes with outdoor seating .
Allow people meet outdoors in parks etc
Then allow meet in gardens . Allow two families or friends to form a bubble and meet up .
Then restaurants with on street doors and not in shopping centres .
Slowely , steadily giving people a little at a time so we can look forward and stay careful

All sensible suggestions, however the people in charge seem to have a deficit when it comes to sense. The six week lockdown before Christmas confirmed that to me at least .

jackboy

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They way I see it is the longer and harsher the restrictions the more people will burst forth and go mad once liftedl. If this goes on until April people will be so eager to meet it will lead to disaster

They need to to this in a measured fashion so that people are not wound up in tension
Drop the 5 km nonsense and all own county travel or at least 20 kms

First click and collect , then retail that are not in shopping centres and have an on street door . Then cafes with outdoor seating .
Allow people meet outdoors in parks etc
Then allow meet in gardens . Allow two families or friends to form a bubble and meet up .
Then restaurants with on street doors and not in shopping centres .
Slowely , steadily giving people a little at a time so we can look forward and stay careful

The things you mention here do not significantly cause the virus to spread. The spike at Christmas was mainly down to house parties and other organised piss ups. We could reduce the numbers just as quick and sustain it with far less restrictions if we just enforce a small few key ones.

niallo27

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm pretty sure woodies opened in June, Niall.

I hope you weren't sitting there all summer, idle, without any paint and completely misinformed.

Summer starts in May though Tony. I'm not sure do you know this or not. Woodies was not open the start of summer.

TonyMaloney

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They way I see it is the longer and harsher the restrictions the more people will burst forth and go mad once liftedl. If this goes on until April people will be so eager to meet it will lead to disaster

They need to to this in a measured fashion so that people are not wound up in tension
Drop the 5 km nonsense and all own county travel or at least 20 kms

First click and collect , then retail that are not in shopping centres and have an on street door . Then cafes with outdoor seating .
Allow people meet outdoors in parks etc
Then allow meet in gardens . Allow two families or friends to form a bubble and meet up .
Then restaurants with on street doors and not in shopping centres .
Slowely , steadily giving people a little at a time so we can look forward and stay careful

I'm pretty sure that's close enough to the plan.

The problem is that they're struggling to give timelines because we haven't dealt with this new variant before. I think they're right too, within this "living with the virus" framework.

We have to drive it down to a really manageable level or we risk our summer and the effectiveness of the vaccination program.

It's dreadful

iamwhoiam

jackboy wrote: »

The things you mention here do not significantly cause the virus to spread. The spike at Christmas was mainly down to house parties and other organised piss ups. We could reduce the numbers just as quick and sustain it with far less restrictions if we just enforce a small few key ones.

Yes and they happened because we went from lockdown to opening retail and restaurants and meeting family all in one fell swoop . It needs to be done in a measured slow way so to release tension and not make people go wild

TonyMaloney

niallo27 wrote: »

Summer starts in May though Tony. I'm not sure do you know this or not. Woodies was not open the start of summer.

That's a very pedantic point, Niall.

Irish summer typically starts in mid June and ends by early July.
Don't say it doesn't. It does.

mcburns07

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's close enough to the plan.

The problem is that they're struggling to give timelines because we haven't dealt with this new variant before. I think they're right too, within this "living with the virus" framework.

We have to drive it down to a really manageable level or we risk our summer and the effectiveness of the vaccination program.

It's dreadful

Is this new variant actually proven to be more transmissible? I've heard all these claims in the media numerous times but what study did the figure of up to 70% come from?

iamwhoiam

TonyMaloney wrote: »

I'm pretty sure that's close enough to the plan.

The problem is that they're struggling to give timelines because we haven't dealt with this new variant before. I think they're right too, within this "living with the virus" framework.

We have to drive it down to a really manageable level or we risk our summer and the effectiveness of the vaccination program.

It's dreadful

But how do we know its pretty close to the plan ? They tell us nothing except it will last till April or May and wind people up no end with the lack of some sort of of plan

niallo27

TonyMaloney wrote: »

That's a very pedantic point, Niall.

Irish summer typically starts in mid June and ends by early July.
Don't say it doesn't. It does.

May was a belter last year, it was roasting.

Arduach

niallo27 wrote: »

Summer starts in May though Tony. I'm not sure do you know this or not. Woodies was not open the start of summer.

Not arguing with any of your points but May is Spring all over the Northern hemisphere. Bar an old pagan calendar in Ireland. Summer is June, July, August meteorologicaly.

iamwhoiam

niallo27 wrote: »

May was a belter last year, it was roasting.

May was glorious last year . If only May behaved like that every year we could look forward to it

Arduach

niallo27 wrote: »

May was a belter last year, it was roasting.

It was but look at the May temps for 33 years and they're comparable with October generally.