Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Ficheall

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

How did you fix a post by using the exact same words in the same order as the OP? Is it the slight angle on the 'if'.
Btw the OP already acknowledged the 'If' caveat.

It's in giant bold font - may not show up on a phone?
And I know the OP acknowledged the "if", but a lot of people seem to be leaping on the possibility with an (as of yet undeserved) amount of gusto.

Ficheall

quokula wrote: »

They're ahead of the curve on vaccine rollout thanks to AZ reneging on their commitments to the EU, so maybe it will be different for them this time. But to suggest that Ireland has always just followed their lead through the pandemic is just utterly wrong when we've consistently handled the situation so much better than them.

Yup - their vaccination seems better, but they've had twice as many deaths per capita as us.. Wouldn't be blindly following them just yet.

Plumbthedepths

Ficheall wrote: »

It's in giant bold font - may not show up on a phone?
And I know the OP acknowledged the "if", but a lot of people seem to be leaping on the possibility with an (as of yet undeserved) amount of gusto.

Thanks for clarifying, so the same word but put in 'giant bold font' gives the correct meaning in your opinion to what the OP was saying.
I can see the urgent necessity of what you did now. Thanks.

Ficheall

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying, so the same word but put in 'giant bold font' gives the correct meaning in your opinion to what the OP was saying.
I can the urgent necessity of what you did now. Thanks.

Ah now - if we restricted ourselves to urgent or necessary posts, these threads would be very sparse indeed

wadacrack

quokula wrote: »

The revisionism here is astounding - the UK government has consistently been a disaster throughout the pandemic and has regularly been well behind Ireland in locking down in time and reacting to the reality of the data and the science. That's the reason why hundreds of thousands of people in the UK are grieving for lost family members and a proportionally much more tiny percentage of people here have been left in that same situation.

They've tried to open up too quickly and put money ahead of health repeatedly, brought in disastrous schemes like eat out to help out, killed many thousands of people in the process, and people are still falling for it? How?

They're ahead of the curve on vaccine rollout thanks to AZ reneging on their commitments to the EU, so maybe it will be different for them this time. But to suggest that Ireland has always just followed their lead through the pandemic is just utterly wrong when we've consistently handled the situation so much better than them.

I didnt suggest we have followed their lead. With the data on the vaccine in Israel and other countries I think we will follow something similar in this instance. UK approach has been overall very poor but I think their current plan is a good one (foreign travel aside)

Happydays2020

Tyrone212 wrote: »

Gript is full of loons, more like an American conspiracy entity than anything else. They'd make the daily mail look reputable. The government message is confusing and the over riding emotion they are producing is anger due to the mixed messaging so I doubt that's true.

Thanks. Never heard about it before - saw the tweet via an IT journalist.

Maxface

igCorcaigh wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1364218149776863239?s=19

Had to travel from Donegal to Dublin yesterday for an essential reason. Met two checkpoints at first, one in town and one before the border. Traffic was very light before the border. In the North it was a free for all, as busy on the roads as I can remember. Then another checkpoint when I left the border again. Traffic in Dublin is way down. I don't be up too often but it was enjoyable driving up there. I think the North is gonna be an issue if we ever do open up, hopefully their vaccination drive will help this but it is a concern.

CoronaBlocker

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Thanks for clarifying, so the same word but put in 'giant bold font' gives the correct meaning in your opinion to what the OP was saying.
I can see the urgent necessity of what you did now. Thanks.

It's like when people use a string of exclamation points after their joke. It makes it funnier. :rolleyes:

Dubit11

Maxface wrote: »

Had to travel from Donegal to Dublin yesterday for an essential reason. Met two checkpoints at first, one in town and one before the border. Traffic was very light before the border. In the North it was a free for all, as busy on the roads as I can remember. Then another checkpoint when I left the border again. Traffic in Dublin is way down. I don't be up too often but it was enjoyable driving up there. I think the North is gonna be an issue if we ever do open up, hopefully their vaccination drive will help this but it is a concern.

At the rate the UK is vaccinating they are likely to be more concerned (rightfully) about people from here travelling up to the North.

Plumbthedepths

quokula wrote: »

The revisionism here is astounding - the UK government has consistently been a disaster throughout the pandemic and has regularly been well behind Ireland in locking down in time and reacting to the reality of the data and the science. That's the reason why hundreds of thousands of people in the UK are grieving for lost family members and a proportionally much more tiny percentage of people here have been left in that same situation.

They've tried to open up too quickly and put money ahead of health repeatedly, brought in disastrous schemes like eat out to help out, killed many thousands of people in the process, and people are still falling for it? How?

They're ahead of the curve on vaccine rollout thanks to AZ reneging on their commitments to the EU, so maybe it will be different for them this time. But to suggest that Ireland has always just followed their lead through the pandemic is just utterly wrong when we've consistently handled the situation so much better than them.

I don't see any revisionism here at all, I doubt anyone disputes the UK's manner of handling the crisis prior to the presence of the vaccine was anything other than appalling.
Your claim about AZ in the British context is strange tbh. The UK government took a gamble and signed a deal with AZ and approved the vaccine before the EMA I believe by a month .
The UK authorities are responsible for an outrageous excess death toll, but they are at present whether you agree or not , leading the way out of this crisis.

copeyhagen

Dubit11 wrote: »

At the rate the UK is vaccinating they are likely to be more concerned (rightfully) about people from here travelling up to the North.

so true, im due a fresh booze run up to newry, ill probably be ran out of tesco when they hear me.

KrustyUCC

stephenjmcd wrote: »

645 swabs from 13,841 tests. 4.66%

Drops the 7 day rate to 5.1 from 5.3

126 less swabs than this day last week

good to see

retro:electro

seamus wrote: »

Nobody at any stage has said that lockdown will continue to the end of June.

Again, Micheál has already stated that we will likely still be in level 4 in June. And whether it is level 4 or level 5, they are both lockdowns in my book, and six months down the line, not much to get your hopes up over.
And my main point was you accusing people of getting into a “tiz” over this information. It’s not for you to scoff at whatever people’s limit and breaking point may be.

Beasty

Another thread over,
and a New One just begun