Covid 19 Part XXXII-215,743 ROI (4,137 deaths)111,166 NI (2,036 deaths)(22/02)Read OP

Goldengirl

TheDoctor wrote: »

Hence the word...... shocked

Yes I know :pac:
Just emphasising it !

runawaybishop

marno21 wrote: »

Glynn said 6 months of restrictions.

Which is correct. There won't be a full 3Arena or unconstrained flights to holiday destinations in the next 6 months.

However, we can be optimistic that it won't be a criminal offence to go more than 5.1km from your home.

Absolutely. We are now vaccinating the 80-85 group, that should be done pretty soon, then on to the 70-80s which should have their first dose (and therefore increased resistance) by the end of march. That will have a huge impact on firstly deaths, and secondly on cases. I've said it before but until vaccines schedules are firmed up you won't see people making concrete claims. I fully expect as the 3 major suppliers kick their production up, which is starting now, we will see the messaging change.

Tork

People should be careful what they post online. Saying something that they think Ronan Glynn said isn't going to do anything but fuel people's emotions. We all know that there are a lot of angry/upset/distressed/depressed/fed up/frustrated people out there. Conjecture isn't helpful for anybody and it's ironic that RTE and the other media outlets are being blamed for misery porn. You wouldn't want to be feeling fragile when you're looking at these threads on boards.

1hnr79jr65

retro:electro wrote: »

Jesus. I can’t believe this is what humanity has come to. The vaccines are one cure but a cure for the rot that has effected our ability to be compassionate and show empathy is another thing. This virus has destroyed some people in more ways than one.

Very (not) clever attempt at selective quoting of my post. I didnt get to see my dad who died on christmas day 2020, so why should supposed "celebrities" get an exception.

manofwisdom

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Did Glynn really say another 6 months of level 5 restrictions ?

It's doing the rounds on twitter

No. He said he wouldn't be surprised if we were still wearing masks and social distancing in six months time. We could well be level 2 restrictions in that time.

rooney30

rooney30 wrote: »

Can some one please explain to me, why when the likes of Staines , Ryan and other zero covid zealots speak , that they make almost no reference to the fact that 3 very effective vaccines exist and soon to be 4 or 5 .
It’s almost as if vaccination is as effective as taking vitamin d in preventing covid !!’

When you talk about these doctors, you have to realize he who shouts loudest gets most airtime. If this all ended in the morning they'd be like a boyband who broke up or a boxer who's dethroned. They'd be irrelevant and have no indulgences to sell. This class of "expert" would be from the same mould that called for Galileo to be locked up, that wanted origin of species banned and laughed at William Harvey when he said the heart circulated blood round the body!! it's just sad these guys get all the screen time whilst counter points are left discussed on boards, YouTube and reddit. when you want to sell a new way of life, get your own experts in to endorse and market it for you...of course it's good for us...the doctor said so..

Remember at one time, Doctors and experts said radium was the new supper food..it was in chocolate, baby formula and everything you could think of....
people went to swim in radium springs.. Doctors are not god and certainly not the flock of seagulls we have over here anyway. you'd be shocked at what doctors have said was good and bad for you through the ages..this time is no different, the landscape has just changed in my opinion.

Sierra Oscar

Sweet.Science wrote: »

Did Glynn really say another 6 months of level 5 restrictions ?

It's doing the rounds on twitter

Leo Varadkar telling hospitality sector representatives that we won't have 50 at an indoor event until September at the earliest according to reports. Bleak.

TheDoctor

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Leo Varadkar telling hospitality sector representatives that we won't have 50 at an indoor event until September at the earliest according to reports. Bleak.

Can only hope they are going down the under promise to over deliver route

stephenjmcd

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Leo Varadkar telling hospitality sector representatives that we won't have 50 at an indoor event until September at the earliest according to reports. Bleak.

Not sure how that comes as a surprise really.

Did anyone expect big indoor gatherings over the summer with hundreds of people and others with thousands? It's not realistic.

Big indoor gatherings will be the last to come back

Sierra Oscar

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Leo Varadkar telling hospitality sector representatives that we won't have 50 at an indoor event until September at the earliest according to reports. Bleak.

September seems to be the target date to keep us at the level we are currently at as we work through vaccinating the population and taking nó chances.

That's the expectation I have in my mind. The main focus is to get the schools back functioning properly and education system on track.

As you say, it will be bleak until then.

Sanjuro

Sierra Oscar wrote: »

Leo Varadkar telling hospitality sector representatives that we won't have 50 at an indoor event until September at the earliest according to reports. Bleak.

The same Leo Varadkar who shat all over NPHET before Christmas? The same Leo Varadkar that says things that later expose him as not knowing what's happening tomorrow let alone six months from now?

stephenjmcd

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure how that comes as a surprise really.

Did anyone expect big indoor gatherings over the summer with hundreds of people and others with thousands? It's not realistic.

Big indoor gatherings will be the last to come back

You better believe people do. I have a mate reckons we'll be all at Malahide Castle for the concerts in the summer. Honestly don't get the delusion.

Sierra Oscar

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Not sure how that comes as a surprise really.

Did anyone expect big indoor gatherings over the summer with hundreds of people and others with thousands? It's not realistic.

Big indoor gatherings will be the last to come back

I don't think anyone clued in to what is going on was expecting large events with hundreds of people, but considering we had events such as weddings with 50 people last summer then yes I do think many in the hospitality sector will be surprised that we won't even reach that this summer.

political analyst

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

False widow spider bites? You're going to have to spell it out for me, I'm afraid.

That story has chilled my spine!

stephenjmcd

Amia Old Scratch wrote: »

You better believe people do. I have a mate reckons we'll be all at Malahide Castle for the concerts in the summer. Honestly don't get the delusion.

Outdoor events have a chance and by that I mean probably what we had last year where a few hundred were allowed to go to a match but that sort of event I dont know how people can think it'll happen & I'm fairly desperate at this stage to get back to a gig and a football match

TheDoctor

Since covid is going to be around now going forward like the flu.... and when we have the vaccination program complete... and there’s still cases and deaths....

What’s the plan? Level 5?

runawaybishop

TheDoctor wrote: »

Can only hope they are going down the under promise to over deliver route

I think it's mainly that, after all the have been burned previously. But there is also a chunk of worry about variants that are immune to the current vaccines. Though we have been told that significantly more generalised vaccines are less than 6 months away.

Tbh all this doom and gloom confuses me. This time last year we had no cases of covid in the country (ok yes, maybe we did but you know what I mean) now less a year after our first confirmed case we have 3 very effective vaccines all ramping up. That is absolutely phenomenal progress. While we may be suffering the effects of lockdown now I am absolutely convinced we can manage this. There is absolutely no way covid can overcome the entire world's medical advancements.

D.Q

Donnelly catching some heat on twitter for not letting certain journalists in to the press conference. Senior journo had to stand up for the rest before they were allowed in.

Has there ever been a more disastrous minister. Everything he touches seems to be covered in a thick, slimy combination of incompetence and arrogance. Really dangerous mix.

https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1361428312564899846?s=20

Turtwig

TheDoctor wrote: »

Since covid is going to be around now going forward like the flu.... and when we have the vaccination program complete... and there’s still cases and deaths....

What’s the plan? Level 5?

A normal life with hopefully greater vigilance to ensure a nasty variant or something worse doesn't start freely circulating.

TheDoctor

Turtwig wrote: »

A normal life with hopefully greater vigilance to ensure a nasty variant or something worse doesn't start freely circulating.

I don’t see the point when things are going to be anyway significantly different to now. Few less in hospital, fewer deaths..... nothing else

manofwisdom

Hospital operations update

In hospital 849 (79 less than 8pm last night)
In ICU 155 (it was 157 last night but sadly 5 deaths in the last 24hrs)

Last Monday we had 1212 in hospital and 173 in ICU.

Turtwig

TheDoctor wrote: »

I don’t see the point when things are going to be anyway significantly different to now. Few less in hospital, fewer deaths..... nothing else

I don't understand your post. Sorry. Are you saying you don't see things changing from how they are currently?

TheDoctor

Turtwig wrote: »

I don't understand your post. Sorry. Are you saying you don't see things changing from how they are currently?

Yeah. Covid is here long term now. Not going anywhere. Vaccines mean less deaths and hospitalisations but it will still be around. Still have cases etc

Happydays2020

TheDoctor wrote: »

Yeah. Covid is here long term now. Not going anywhere. Vaccines mean less deaths and hospitalisations but it will still be around. Still have cases etc

Same as influenza. We will get our annual vaccine.

KrustyUCC

manofwisdom wrote: »

Hospital operations update

In hospital 849 (79 less than 8pm last night)
In ICU 155 (it was 157 last night but sadly 5 deaths in the last 24hrs)

Last Monday we had 1212 in hospital and 173 in ICU.

Philip Nolan predicted 600-800 in hospitals by the end of February

Think we'll have a great chance of being under the 600 range by the end of the month hopefully

Great progress thankfully

TheDoctor

Happydays2020 wrote: »

Same as influenza. We will get our annual vaccine.

Exactly, but my point being that NPHET can spend the rest of their lives doing daily press conferences about cases and deaths from Covid. At what point does things change? I dont see how things are going to be any different to now.

CruelSummer

Amia Old Scratch wrote: »

September seems to be the target date to keep us at the level we are currently at as we work through vaccinating the population and taking nó chances.

That's the expectation I have in my mind. The main focus is to get the schools back functioning properly and education system on track.

As you say, it will be bleak until then.

This isn’t the most sensible date by the Government. The virus will spread less in the summer months and start increasing again from the Autumn. We’re coming up on a year of this now so we can see what it does.

newmember2

Can someone answer me re vaccines - the current vaccine rollouts will attempt at vaccinating people so that people will not fall sick from Covid and so not overwhelm the health services. The vaccination does not prevent the reproduction or transmission of the virus, so what's the eventual outcome?

Sanjuro

D.Q wrote: »

Donnelly catching some heat on twitter for not letting certain journalists in to the press conference. Senior journo had to stand up for the rest before they were allowed in.

Has there ever been a more disastrous minister. Everything he touches seems to be covered in a thick, slimy combination of incompetence and arrogance. Really dangerous mix.

https://twitter.com/ciaraphelan_/status/1361428312564899846?s=20

If we weren’t in the middle of a pandemic, the path of Stephen Donnelly’s career and the continuous and relentless self-owns would be quite comical.

TheDoctor

newmember? wrote: »

Can someone answer me re vaccines - the current vaccine rollouts will attempt at vaccinating people so that people will not fall sick from Covid and so not overwhelm the health services. The vaccination does not prevent the reproduction or transmission of the virus, so what's the eventual outcome?

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